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Joachim Namyslo created an issue. See original summary.

gisle’s picture

Title: Matomo Analytics » Seeking new mainatiner for Matomo Analytics
Component: Maintaining offer » Needs maintainers
Category: Support request » Task
Issue summary: View changes
Related issues: +#3094315: Maintainer for Piwik Momoto Analytics blockd what now?

In #3094315: Maintainer for Piwik Momoto Analytics blockd what now? you write:

I am not a programmer and can't take over the project.

Given that, the component should not be "Maintaining offer", but "Needs maintainers".

If I've misunderstood, and you are offering to step up as the new maintainer, please say so.

ciss’s picture

Title: Seeking new mainatiner for Matomo Analytics » Seeking new maintainer for Matomo Analytics
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joachim namyslo’s picture

@Gisle Everythings all right I am not a programmer so even if I like to, I would fail.

avpaderno’s picture

Issue tags: -Matomo needs new Maintainer
avpaderno’s picture

Component: Needs maintainers » Other
Category: Task » Support request
Status: Active » Fixed

A Needs mainteners issue is created from the maintainers who are looking for new maintainers.

The project owner has not left drupal.org, and even if that were the case, there isn't any action we preventively take.
If there are users who want to become maintainer/co-maintainer of the projects owned from that user, they will open an issue for each of those projects.

joachim namyslo’s picture

but he is blocked :-)

see here: https://www.drupal.org/project/webmasters/issues/3083289

As long as he is blocked he can't do anything no committing nor looking for a new maintainer he is not able to do absolutely nothing.

gisle’s picture

For the record: I do not agree with setting status of this to "Fixed".

Nothing has been "Fixed" here. The current fact is that this widely used important project is not being maintained. Users of the project should be allowed to take action in this issue queue to remedy that, without getting a bogus "Fixed" status slapped on the request.

The entire Drupal ecosystem is going to suffer if much used projects becomes unsupported and our users are barred from trying to fix it.

avpaderno’s picture

Until somebody offers to maintain a project (which is, IMO, the only action users can take over a module that isn't maintained), there isn't anything we can do nor do we need to do.
In the specific case, I don't find correct to look for a new maintainer when the project owner is temporary blocked. I would eventually understand a request to become co-maintainer of a project, but even in this case, I would rather get first information about the reasons for blocking the user and how much the suspension is going to last.

This issue has been closed as Fixed because it is more a support request that got an answer. It cannot be a task, since there isn't anything that needs to be done (without a user who is willing to maintain the project until the return of the project owner).

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mmjvb’s picture

Current policy, https://www.drupal.org/node/251466, is very clear on how to deal with this situation. Creating this issue is not part of that.

It is not a fact that the project is not being maintained. Currently the owner is temporarily not available, which is not the same as the project not being maintained. Users are in no way barred from trying to fix it. They can follow the procedure for perceived abandoned projects.

Do agree that the Drupal Ecosystem is suffering due to poorly maintained/abandoned projects. Disagree on Matomo Analytics as qualifying as such. But feel free to follow proper procedure to get other opinions.

joachim namyslo’s picture

Ok folks,

It's simple

We know a maintainer is blocked by the cwg for some reason
We also know that he has maintained or maintain may modules because he was on drupal.org since 2001 or so.
and we don't know if he comes back, because I haven't asked @gdemet at CWGwhat is actually happened

Matomo is just an example but there are more modules he maintained and I bet not every module has a co maintainer like mamotro has. But does anybody care about this before blocking a user? and how do we do make sure users of such modules don't get a lack of support just because we decide to block somebody for some reason?

If you would block me and I had several drupal.org-Modules I would never come back to help out a community, The same community that blocked me before.

In my opinion, the process doesn't matter. At least in this case.

It is not the Maintainer's fault, that he doesn't contribute anymore.

So if mmjvb is right we can make sure every module get's abandoned here just by convincing the CWG that someone has to be blocked. Because we don't care about what's happening with their modules afterward.

That's a pity. It doesn't harm the maintainer. It harms the users using such a module.

I will links this issue now in CWG-Issue tracker. Just to make sure anyone cares about this.

Sorry for being rude but I'm a bit p.... off, right now.

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)

Automatically closed - issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.