IMHO, some of the recent content aggregated from Pantheon Systems is not appropriate for Planet Drupal (and it seems this was brought up at least once before in #1403528: Drupal Planet has become a marketing platform):
- Updating Drupal Core on Pantheon: one paragraph and an image on how to upgrade core on Pantheon.
- Manage Your Team: a manual/how-to on managing users/teams within the Pantheon admin UI.
- Products on Pantheon: feels like a press release.
While these can be interesting bits of information to people using Pantheon, most of us are not... (or not yet ;) )
Additionally, the posts do not have comments enabled, something that is required by our current Planet Drupal guidelines.
Note that some other posts from the same feed are interesting and do offer valuable information for planet readers (For example https://getpantheon.com/news/inside-pantheon-drops). I just think a little more discretion should be used when tagging posts for Planet Drupal.
(I have notified zacker, who requested the feed to be added in #903820: Add getpantheon.com to the Planet, of this issue).
Comments
Comment #1
silverwing commentedhttp://drupal.org/aggregator/sources/804
I just checked this feed and there still seems to be more press releases and customer-specific posts. For example:
pantheon-raises-5m-series-foundry - press release
Pantheon for Camps, Projects, Trainings - sales pitch
Comment #2
mr.baileysI did not receive a reply to my email sent to zacker notifying him about this issue. I contacted populist (since he requested a marketplace listing review for Pantheon Systems).
If we don't hear back, I suggest temporarily disabling the feed.
Comment #3
joshk commentedHey guys,
I apologize if the recent content has been weak.
For context, we have a long history with the Drupal project — see me, or David or Matt — and are doing what we think is very interesting work to improve people's ability to build great sites with drupal. We would like to continue making posts to the Planet feed when we make advancements, both with our service and with projects hosted on d.o like Panopoly.
We've been working under the hood so much we haven't had time to do proper blog posts, so I've been putting in the little announcements as we're able. I'll try and do a better job going forward.
Comment #5
nigelw commentedAnother one has come out today, this is a blatant ad and provides no other valuable info to the community other than the services that Pantheon provides.
https://www.getpantheon.com/news/solving-infrastructure-problem
Comment #6
mr.baileysI agree that Solving The Infrastructure Problem is promotional and does not provide community value other than to make members aware of Pantheon's offering, for which channels other than Planet should be used.
I have disabled the feed for now.
@joshk: can you remove the "Planet"-tag from offending posts mentioned in this thread? Once that is done, we can re-enable the feed.
Comment #7
joshk commentedI guess I'm a little confused about the guidelines. I don't feel like that post is a "blatant ad". We're trying to provide some kind of thought leadership for the future of the project. This is consistent with content I've been posting into the planet from Pantheon and Chapter Three for years.
Would this have "no community value" if if I removed references to Pantheon and posted it as an individual rather than from my company? That would only require minor changes.
I've removed the tag but I'd like to get some clarity on what kind of posts are permissible.
It feels like I'm being held to a different standard in my communication because I happen to be associated with a commercial entity, which seems unfair.
For instance you could argue that this post that went up today is also promotional in nature:
https://www.acquia.com/blog/batson-drupal-accelerator
However, I think that this is important information for the community to have. One could also say that this is a job-seeking post, which is expressly prohibited:
http://kattekrab.net/leading-drupal-association-future
But again I don't have a problem with that.
Comment #8
joshk commentedHey all,
I've been thinking about this all day here at DrupalCon Munich. After re-reading my post a few times I agree that it is too promotional in nature. It pushes too hard.
I am going to need to work harder on future posts to insure that the right tone is used, and that there's more "there there" in terms of substance. I would appreciate critical feedback. We'll be enabling comments as required in the guidelines, but I would also like to hear from anyone on this thread in terms of how I can talk about my work — which I feel is of legitimate interest to the Drupal community — without being perceived as a flim-flam salesman.
Comment #9
mr.baileysThanks Josh, I have re-enabled the feed on Drupal Planet.
IMO, this can be done by adding depth to the article (discussing technical implementations, how certain hurdles were taken, etc, etc). When evaluating articles for Drupal Planet, temporarily strip out all references to vendors/companies, take a step back and see what the article teaches/contributes to the community.
Let's consider this issue fixed and closed.