Currently, because of the lack of consensus on the "no job announcements"-stance (#928092: Update and clarify Planet Drupal guidelines), site maintainers are not enforcing this rule, but drupal.org members *are* doing so by leaving comments on job announcements that appear on Planet Drupal (for example, http://acquia.com/blog/help-make-my-drupal-gardens-site-look-great#comme... and http://www.lullabot.com/blog/lullabot-needs-more-trainers#comment-8350).

Anyone opposed to removing that specific rule from our content requirements until community discussion has decided whether or not to allow job announcements? Also note that to non-English natives, the distinction between a job announcement and a hiring announcement might not be immediately clear, so if we keep the latter we should make it clearer what exactly is meant by "hiring announcement".

I've also added a section to What is Planet Drupal and how do I get added requesting people to report what they feel is inappropriate content in the webmasters queue rather than in the comment sections of the posts themselves to avoid that posts which drupal.org site maintainers silently approve/allow get shot down by community members.

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robertdouglass’s picture

robertdouglass commented

It's correct that there is disagreement about the rule. I tend towards a much wider view of what is Planet worthy and think that this rule is detrimental.

However, as I acknowledge that some people don't want to read job announcements, and are unable to filter the planet to their own tastes, I'll reiterate that I think there's a legitimate need for aggregation of job announcements from external sites. Groups.drupal.org is good tool but it's not a very good place to get a wide, unsegmented audience. For some job categories you'd have to spam 20 groups before you had all your niches covered. This is why people and companies persist in posting job announcements to the Planet. A separate feed for job announcements would a) give posters a place to post, and b) give webmasters something to do when people classify them wrong - change the category and the post moves to the right queue.

gerhard killesreiter’s picture

gerhard killesreiter commented

We've never wanted job announcements on the planet. So the change would be to allow them. We should not pre-empt the outcome of the discussion by making the change that is proposed before the discussion has been conclusive.

alex ua’s picture

alex ua commented

Who is this "we" that you speak of, and why have I never met him? There is no consensus, accept amongst a small group of insiders (mostly webmasters who are neither looking for jobs or hiring), that there should not be job postings. In fact, as I pointed out in the thread that was responsible for this overreach of authority (#928092: Update and clarify Planet Drupal guidelines) most of the people who were complaining either worked for companies that had posted jobs (some even admitted to finding their jobs through such posts) or had themselves posted jobs in the past.

That text was already supposed to be removed, along with all of the "do not post" text, so please do remove it from that handbook page, as this is the actual consensus move at this point.

alex ua’s picture

alex ua commented

I created this issue as a possible solution to this problem: #997004: Job Postings for Contributing Companies in the Marketplace

dddave’s picture

dddave commented
Project: Drupal.org site moderators » Drupal.org content
Component: Drupal Planet » Planet Drupal
Status: Active » Closed (won't fix)

For the record I am all for "we are hiring" posts but don't see any community value in "we have hired xy" posts. However nothing has happened here since forever so I am closing this issue.