Project Browser Initiative Meeting for September 14, 2022 [#3328122]

2️⃣ We have a proposal for the validation rules around installing modules from the PB UI which needs signoff

timplunkett (he/him)	#3300061: [policy, no patch] Determine Composer validation rules for installing through Composer
timplunkett (he/him)	@chrisfromredfin I assigned it to you for now
chrisfromredfin	Will look at this asap but next week at the latest.
chrisfromredfin	Only Drupal modules and themes are that secure according to drupal.org Update XML will be allowed to have there [sic] version affected during an update.Remind me are we talking secure by project "opted into security coverage" or by release "do not allow from 1.1 to 1.2 if 1.2 is not secure" or more like "do not allow from 1.9 to 2.0 if 2.0 is not secure"
chrisfromredfin	I think I'm reading this that it's per-release: The security advisory coverage for the release. If covered, with a covered="1" attribute. Contains human-readable explanation like "Covered by Drupal's security advisory policy," "Project has not opted into security advisory coverage!" or "Beta releases are not covered by Drupal security advisories."
chrisfromredfin	ok #3300061: [policy, no patch] Determine Composer validation rules for installing through Composer#comment-14692938 added my $0.02 here. I sort of "talked out loud" in that comment, but I think in general my understanding is that this validation is sufficient but there may be some "next level" stuff that we will want to confirm before applying things.

3️⃣ We have a new issue tag for the integration between Project Browser and Package Manager: Package Manager integration in Project Browser

timplunkett (he/him)

This work is the #1 priority for those of us at Acquia working on PB

4️⃣ Listed as 'what have we accomplished' - what am I missing?listening sessions with our target audiencedefault filter criteria (what to show)grid and list views with filtering & quality signalsmock of default fetch from d.o first cut at proposing descriptions for the categoriesinitially getting detail page from d.oreleased an alpha and then a beta versioninstructions for installing via composerallow multiple “sources” for data (drupal.org, private Github, Core)(edited)

chrisfromredfin

5️⃣ under 'what are we looking forward to' - what am I missing?re-examine project detail page on d.o and in Project Browserupdate the data on drupal.org - descriptions, categories, logosprovide a base template for project description / body fieldmigrating from the drupal.org Mock API to a real Drupal 9 sitereplace install instructions with actual Composer commands (very close)convert from using DrupalCI to GitLab CI make the Svelte side of the frontend more themeable

chrisfromredfin

6️⃣ There are two BoFs and a session at DrupalCon. Should there be dedicated time for testing/feedback collection or you are good with feedback from the existing two BoFs? (those are not about the UI or how the browser works).

chrisfromredfin	There's still an open issue to come up with a test plan for Project Browser. Sort of, how to spin it up and play with it. However, it's much easier than Automatic Updates was, especially if they go the Gitpod route. We're going to encourage people to play with it and file issues (esp usability issues) at the presentation/session.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Do you think that will happen organically or would it be better to sit down with people at a specific time and get feedback?
chrisfromredfin	I think I'm hoping it will happen organically, but I'm betting we'd do better if it were some more formal time.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Since you planned to sit in contribution for an extended time, what about moving an hour of that into yet another BoF? 🙂 “Project Browser UI testing” or something along those lines?
chrisfromredfin	do you think earlier or later is better? like first morning of the conference, or last morning of the conference? Or, we could have a dedicated spot on contribution day?
chrisfromredfin	@leslieg any thoughts?
leslieg	AT DrupalCamp Colorado I had listening sessions during the Contribution day with folks new to Project Browser where they tested out the UI and gave me feedback. It was an adhoc thing for when someone new was looking for something to work on (edited)
chrisfromredfin	That might be the one of the best ways to welcome newcomers into Contribution Day. ?
leslieg	I was thinking about setting up dedicated time during contribution to work as a group on reviewing what folks had suggested for logos, short descriptions and comments. Tuesday 15:00-17:00 CEST might work - it's right after initiative keynote
leslieg	@chrisfromredfin thinking this would be a good way to get that review moving faster
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	That UI listening session sounds wonderful. Exactly what I had in mind as it would be minimal prep work required and still lots of potential for getting value.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	So you propose to have that on Tue at 3pm to 5pm?
chrisfromredfin	I could definitely be available to help people get set up and start testing the UI, yeah. Should we do that in general contrib room or somewhere else?
chrisfromredfin	bof room maybe?
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Bof shows up on the in-person BOF board and mobile apps and/or online schedule of folks that use the site or installed the mobile app
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Also can be put in their personal schedule. All in all much better visibility IMHO.
chrisfromredfin	should i / can i still just propsoe a bof?
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Bofs that were submitted on time earlier even got into the printed program. While that ship has sailed, the digital benefits as well as BoF board visibility are still in it's favour.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Yes you should/can :)
chrisfromredfin	k, will do!
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I would love to add it to my initiative post so looking forward to it :)
chrisfromredfin	OK those are both submitted. Not sure why they wouldn't be accepted. There wasn't really a slot for 1500-1700 so i submitted two bofs in two slots for part (1) and (2)
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	yay!
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	reloading https://events.drupal.org/prague2022/schedule/all multiple times to see these pop up so I can add them to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gNlU7xj80Ipx06GPe2nvl0bXQtzrMuofVFiT... 🙂 I was hoping to publish that last week to get better awareness 🙂 if there is a next time, it would be great to coordinate earlier 🙂
leslieg	Thanks @chrisfromredfin for adding those BoFs. I am swampred with urgent client work. @Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) I
leslieg	I'll get my keynote slides to you tonight
chrisfromredfin	Yeah, still no confirmation from Kuoni
chrisfromredfin	I'll ping you here as soon as I get one
chrisfromredfin	@Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) they're up!
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Added to the doc, thanks!