Agenda items
Standing items
- Who is here
- Any other suggested topics
- Wins / Thanks / Blockers
- Statistics and functionality update. X new bugs created in last two weeks. Y closed by the initiative.
- The bug I would most like to see fixed
- Update on target items from last meeting
- What should be the initiative focus for the next 2 weeks?
Statistics
0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread to introduce yourself. We’ll keep the meeting open for 24 hours to allow for all timezones.
| larowlan | :wave: Lee |
| quietone | Kia ora! |
| Griffyn Heels | Griff :wave: (edited) |
| ambermatz | Amber :wave: |
| Meeni | Meeni:wave: |
| jibran | Jibran, AU |
| mohit_aghera | Mohit :wave: |
| lendude | Len, :banana-dance: |
| smustgrave | Stephen |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Kristen, California, catching up |
0️⃣.5️⃣ What module would you most like to see ready for d10?
| quietone | The one I maintain, Commerce Migrate. |
| ambermatz | Help Topics |
| Meeni | Lingotek Translation |
| jibran | DER which already is I just have to tag a release. |
| lendude | The porting day got me thinking I might actually need to port Simpletest :scream_cat: (edited) |
| darvanen | field_group |
| smustgrave | Bootstrap layout builder |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | I looked at the top 50 and I like Linkit so that one |
1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.
| quietone | What to do with tags when closing an issue |
| Griffyn Heels | Need someone that’s a maintainer to go through the fortnightly meta triage threads and issue credit/close |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | From #contribution-events meeting: https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C03FH8GTB1A/p1661880033508319 |
2️⃣.1️⃣ Wins - what wins have you had since the last meeting? Share your successes!
| quietone | Group triage of PMNMI issues went well |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Not bugsmash but 2nd D10 porting event went well last week :thumbsup: |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Just did a big round of triage :thumbsup: |
2️⃣.2️⃣ Thanks - a space for callouts to other contributors who’ve helped you
| lendude | @quietone for everything, but let’s highlight the group triage running this time, thank you for that! |
2️⃣.3️⃣ Blockers - what’s getting in the way of your issues / goals
| larowlan | very busy at work, 4 weeks till project launch :crossed_fingers: for more free time for smashing bugs |
| quietone | My husband working from home most days is proving to be disruptive. |
| ambermatz | I’ve had some time off this month which was good, but not really enough time. It’s been hard getting back into the swing of things mentally. |
| lendude | Summer vacation makes it hard to get into a steady groove, vacation is over, but not sure that is a good thing :wink: |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Competing initiatives (and work and life)... lots of #d10readiness and #contribution-events stuff lately |
2️⃣.4️⃣ :loudspeaker: If you helped with the triage since the last meeting then don’t forget to post a comment to triage issue on d.o.
| Griffyn Heels | #3304218: [Meta] Bug Smash Initiative triage fortnight commencing 2022-08-16 |
| kimb0 | oops |
| kimb0 | I need to re-read the instructions of how to triage |
2️⃣.5️⃣ Approve last fortnight’s minutes
| quietone | #3301995: Meeting of the Bug Smash Initiative 2022-08-16 |
3️⃣ Core bug statistics - current state of open bugs
| quietone | Priority (goal): actual Critical (50): 61 Major (1000): 952 Normal (6000): 4910 Minor (300): 361 |
| quietone | All of those are less than the results from the last meeting. :smile: |
| quietone | Today: 2022-08-30
From: 2022-08-16 to 2022-08-30 All bugs Status Count Approximately 235 yr reduction in total number of years of all open bugs. Only bugs tagged Bug Smash Initiative Status Count Approximately 142 yr reduction in total number of years of all open bugs. |
| quietone | Not reaching the around 250yr mark but the total bug count will be less, in part because issues for extensions that are being removed from core are being moved to the contrib project. |
| lendude | I usually take a new datapoint every 2 months or so, so probably round the time of the next meeting it’s time for a new one |
4️⃣ Lets check back on our targets and set some new ones
| Griffyn Heels | Existing critical: #2611872: JS exceptions are thrown each time a multiple-valued text field with a CKEditor instances is being rearanged(edited) |
| Griffyn Heels | Is everyone happy with these? (edited) |
| ambermatz | For the Existing Critical, there is an Aug 12 issue summary update which concludes with “Therefore, this issue is now fixed, and there's no further effort needed here.” |
| ambermatz | So maybe this issue can be closed? |
| ambermatz | Although it does look like some discussion is still ongoing (as of 2 weeks ago). |
| Griffyn Heels | Yeah it does looks like it’s pretty much closed. |
| Griffyn Heels | I’ll see if anyone else has any feedback over the next 24 hours. I can try and pull another if need be. |
5️⃣ Help me - Is there anything you could use a :hand:
6️⃣ Let’s look back at PMNMI issues that we can close this fortnight
| ambermatz | Does anyone have a link to this handy? |
| Griffyn Heels | Here’s all the PMNMI issues: https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/drupal?text=&status=16&priorities=... |
| ambermatz | Thanks. I added some filters and sorted by by Last Updated to try and find ones that we’ve commented on but haven’t had any activity, that we could perhaps close. https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?text=&assigned=&subm... |
| ambermatz | This one might be able to be closed. See comment #4: #3203709: Call to a member function getId() on null#comment-14132549 |
| ambermatz | In which he says “this issue could probably be closed” :wink: |
| Griffyn Heels | That’s a good sign |
| Griffyn Heels | Gonna add your PMNMI list into the bookmarks |
| ambermatz | Ok I closed it.. |
7️⃣ What have you learned in the last fortnight?
| lendude | Not related to this initiative but wrote my first custom cache context, which was nice. And have needed to dive back deep into node access grants, which is less nice :smile: |
| darvanen | BaseFieldDefinition::setDefaultValue != BaseFieldDefinition::setInitialValue |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Been coding a bit for a change so used _custom_access on routes for the first time (I think) which came in handy rather than doing the Deriver thingy for hide/show of actions/tasks based on some logic |
8️⃣ “What to do with tags when closing an issue” from @quietone
| quietone | When closing an issue (outdate/won't fix/cannot reproduce) should we remove the tags that no longer needed. Say, the 'needs something' tags. |
| larowlan | good question, I guess there's no harm in keeping them, as you can filter out other listings via status |
| quietone | I should be clear too. That some 'needs' tags must be dealt with before closing an issue. 'Needs followup is one' |
| quietone | True, no harm but can be a lot of clutter. |
| quietone | For the other tags, I do work to remember to remove tags of no value. Like a tag that duplicates the component. |
| borisson_ | Yes, there are a lot of tags without any value being added. I have this text that I frequently add when removing tags, mainly when doing it on my own modulesPS: It seems you (like many others – it's really easy to misinterpret) are confused by the "Issue tags" field. As the guidelines state, they aren't meant for free text tags related to the issue, but only for specific categorization purposes, usually by module maintainers.So, if you aren't sure your current usage is correct, please just leave the field empty. |
| quietone | I like that. |
| lendude | I tend to leave the ‘Needs … ’ tags on when closing because you never are 100% sure it will stay closed, and if somebody opens it back up, you want those tags back on as well |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Thanks for this... I'll try to remember to remove unnecessary tags |
9️⃣ “Is there a maintainer with some free time available to go through the previous fortnightly meta triage threads and issue credit/close?” from @Griffyn Heels
| Griffyn Heels | For example: #3301984: [Meta] Bug Smash Initiative triage fortnight commencing 2022-08-02 from last fortnight needs credit given and then marked for closure. |
| Griffyn Heels | There’s quite a few parents that this applies to, but shouldn’t take too long |
| ambermatz | I’m happy to take a look tomorrow at it. It’s getting late for me. I’ll set a reminder. |
| Griffyn Heels | Thanks! |
| ambermatz | I could only find the one you mentioned above. |
Participants:
quietone, ambermatz, Meeni, jibran, lendude, darvanen, smustgrave, Kristen Pol, Griffyn Heels, larowlan, kim.pepper, borisson_
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smustgrave commentedLooks correct
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lendudeAgreed, looks good