| chrisfromredfin |
Tim, in the meta it might be nice to document all the todos you've found and which ones have child issues filed and which ones don't. That way someone else could pick up and/or help you out with thatone. |
| tim |
Will update the meta with list.The child issue is that looking good?I removed 1 or 2 headings etc. and Linked it to the parent.Any other suggestions with the child? Otherwise will do rest shortly (hopefully). |
| chrisfromredfin |
child looks great - can always be improved later :slightly_smiling_face: |
| chrisfromredfin |
if even needed |
| tim |
The list is done. I figure people can look to the child section for a link to the related issue. Or should I put a link to the issue in with the list? IE I am doing, but open to suggestions (edited) |
| tim |
@chrisfromredfin All the necessary child issues have been created. FYI. I looked at each one to try and add notes but not much was added. Not sure what the value add would be. (So am calling it done for now, but will add more if I can later)Anybody, is there a flowchart generator for PHP? I found 1 maybe 2 - they are old or looks like not used... question the quality - is there no such thing? (edited) |
| chrisfromredfin |
To point 1, thank you! At the next meeting we can see if other people can help elaborate on those. Thank you thank you!To your second point - I don't know of any, but that's not to say they do or don't exist... :slightly_smiling_face: |
| fjgarlin |
we (at the DA) are going to be discussing / re-vamping Bluecheese to a D9+ version in the comings months, so I’m sure icons will be something that we discuss. nothing to show yet tho.in any case, identifying the icons needed is the first step, then having them match might be the next goal.---just thinking out loud here. what are the icons that Drupal core provides? is there anything we could use there? (edited) |
| Jillian Chueka |
I'm happy to look at this! A few questions come to mind:Will there ever be an instance where non-actively maintained modules be in here? Is it more important to note when it was last maintained (show visibility) or just the fact that it is still being maintained? (edited) |
| chrisfromredfin |
Hi Jillian thank you! Yes, I think in the advanced search we're letting people show things that are not in the "actively maintained" category. So it would disappear in that instance (maybe phase 2 even?). We are not interested in the timeframe, as the field we're using is really just a picklist the maintainer can choose. We would like to show the icon for a few different states of that dropdown. |
| chrisfromredfin |
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| chrisfromredfin |
So we're considering it "good" (show the icon) if any of the first three are selected. |
| Jillian Chueka |
Ok great, so the problem we are solving here is users knowing that there is maintenance in some capacity on the module they are considering. I like the idea of a tooltip, where the user could hover over the icon to learn what it means. I think whatever the icon ends up being, it should at a high level convey that maintenance is being done. Is it that a wrench does not convey that? Or stylistically this particular wrench doesn't work? |
| chrisfromredfin |
From what we've heard from users, the Drupalism of "maintenance status" is not conveyed by "a wrench" |
| chrisfromredfin |
I definitely think we add either a key or a tooltip, tooltip being pretty easy to do because it doesn't take up real estate. :slightly_smiling_face: |
| chrisfromredfin |
But yes the idea we're trying to convey is that it's NOT abandoned or forgotten. There's some level of activity. As a DEVELOPER (not the right audience, but maybe?) something that conveys that to me is the GitHub graph. https://www.javiertordable.com/images/github-activity-chart.png |
| chrisfromredfin |
Not sure this is the right idea / icon, though. :stuck_out_tongue: |
| chrisfromredfin |
But I think an icon that indicates "activity" might be more fitting than one that indicates "maintenance" ? |
| leslieg |
A Tooltip would definitely help users as the meaning of the wrench was not clear at all to users during Listening Sessions. Security needs a tooltip as well based on feedback. |
| chrisfromredfin |
Tooltip might be something like "Meets security standards something something" and for wrench "Meets criteria for an actively maintained project on Drupal.org" or something |
| Jillian Chueka |
I did some research and there are a few options for showing activity (though most of them fall into the hardware sense). Maybe something with a gear + code? |
| chrisfromredfin |
as long as it doesn't imply "settings" since gear is heavily involved there, but I think adding some element of code to it might help overcome that. Or it makes me wonder about or something like wrapping teh wrench in HTML brackets might be just enough? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| AmyJune (volkswagenchick) |
I think more. I think existing site builders would be good subjects. (most new or novice level) |
| chrisfromredfin |
Oh like we've actually hit a bunch of novices, but want to hit some more experience folks who identify as "site builders" ? that would be nice, and likely easier to find. I wonder if we could put a call out in #site-building |
| leslieg |
I have a meta issue for that already @chrisfromredfin and agree that we need a bit more input before finalizing, Working on setting up a few more sessions with additional site builders (edited) |
| chrisfromredfin |
ok excellent. Thanks! Glad you're on top of it :slightly_smiling_face: |
| Rajab Natshah |
Thank you @leslieg, and @AmyJune (volkswagenchick) for sharing the listening sessions.Developers need to check them too.I only read some .. and WOW I got number of important feedback issues.like the ( side image logo position in the card grid or list )They are styling issues for sure. not from the design (edited) |
| chrisfromredfin |
Yes the list view needs some frontend work, if anyone wants to style some svelte stuff. I think that should probably be its own issue. Would anyone care to file that? :slightly_smiling_face: |
| Rajab Natshah |
@chrisfromredfin Yes, I can file all reported issues on that. And follow up on fixing them.@AmyJune (volkswagenchick) shared 3 listening sessions with me. I will check on the other for sure. |
| chrisfromredfin |
there are many in the issue queue |
| Rajab Natshah |
Not the ones which change the design. only the wrong behaviorsI will ask for access on them, to read and compile |
| chrisfromredfin |
https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search/project_browser?text=listen...…]%5D=Closed&version%5B%5D=any_1.&issue_tags_op=%3D&issue_tags= |
| Rajab Natshah |
Noted |
| leslieg |
@saschaeggi was asking about design work on this initiative as well |
| chrisfromredfin |
yes, wants to make sure the designs inherit claro more than anything |
| leslieg |
@Rajab Natshah I will compile the listening session data and we can file issues on the common items. The issue @chrisfromredfin was asking for was specific to the list view, correct? |
| Rajab Natshah |
@lesliegNoted; I will follow with all reported issues then :slightly_smiling_face: |
| Rajab Natshah |
and will read and match needed fixes |
| chrisfromredfin |
I was asking for a ticket for like "update list view styles to match design" or something, yes. Rajab volunteered for synthesis of listening sessions, but we're not there yet. So we'll put a pin in that one for now |
| saschaeggi |
Yes, I'm just checking in from time to time to see if there is something I can review (or help) from a design POV |
AmyJune (volkswagenchick), chrisfromredfin, fjgarlin, Rajab Natshah, tim, Jillian Chueka, leslieg, saschaeggi
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