Olivero Meeting 2021-02-01 [#3193560]

Meeting Agenda

Introductions
Status and whats next
Issue updates and discussion
Starterkit theme
Where can people help this week?

Meeting Details

Time: 3pm UTC (10am Eastern)
‬Meeting Location: #d9-theme channel on drupal.slack.com

Meeting Notes

Hello, welcome to this week’s Front-end theme Olivero meeting!• This meeting happens every other Monday at 3pm UTC (10am ET)• There is no audio or video -- this meeting is chat only• The conversations for this meeting happen in threads0️⃣ If you’re attending this meeting, please let us know here and leave a comment in the meeting agenda issue so we can give you issue credit on d.o.: #3193560: Olivero Meeting 2021-02-01 (edited)

mherchel	Morning! :wave:
gaurav mahlawat	Hello.
shaal	Hello! :sunglasses:
hansa11	Hello! :wave:
katannshaw	Hello
markdorison	gooood morning
Prashant Kumar	Hello!!
anjalivijay	Hello :wave:
lauriii	hello!
proeung	Happy Monday! :wave:
AmyJune (volkswagenchick she/her)	Good day!
mansoor20	Hello :wave:
thejimbirch	Catching up (edited)

1️⃣ Overall project status update

mtift	This tread is for discussing the overall status of the Olivero initiative in broad terms, and we'll save specific issue discussions for later threads.
mherchel	Lots of progress with code, but lots of new accessibility issues are popping up as the a11y maintainers look closer.I’ve been meeting with them (during a11y office hours and individually) to plan for various fixes
mherchel	Right now, there are a lot of issues that need review. Some of these patches are somewhat large and will conflict with each other, so I’d like to get them committed asap
lauriii	I’m sorry I didn’t have a chance to commit any Olivero issues last week
lauriii	I should be able to dedicate some time this week
mherchel	No worries. there are a few RTBC. There are more that are waiting on a11y maintainer review
AmyJune (volkswagenchick she/her)	I am popping into the meeting to see if Olivero issues can be worked (and someone can lead the effort) on at Florida DrupalCamp’s Contrib day. Feb 20, 1-4 pm ET

2️⃣ Individual issue discussion

mtift	This thread is the place to bring up specific issues that need some extra discussion
katannshaw	#3192656: Text inputs can create horizontal scrolling at narrow viewports in Olivero is RTBC and needing a maintainer review
mherchel	Thanks! Will take a look at that shortly
markdorison	It’s still not completely clear to me how tests should be implemented in the theme: #3174107: Add additional testing coverage for Olivero
mherchel	yeah
Andrei Zvonkov	@mherchel for this one: #3194560: Style maintenance page for Olivero Should the maintenance page have a header, footer, menus, other common theme elements? What should we render on it, besides the: “Site is under maintenance”, anything?

3️⃣ Starterkit theme

mtift	Some people are working on a starterkit theme which includes a CLI tool for generating new themes. Something that was brought up was that it could be interesting to be able to use Olivero as a starting point for a new theme
mherchel	who added that. I
mherchel	O
lauriii	I added :raised_hand:
mherchel	I’d be interested on hearing more
mtift	@lauriii could you provide some more context?
lauriii	I’m working on a starterkit theme to replace Classy #3050384: Provide a starterkit theme in core
mherchel	It might be a good way to skin it without subtheming
lauriii	I had a BoF on this in DrupalCon Europe and Global. In DrupalCon Europe someone mentioned that could we add support for Bartik and Olivero
lauriii	My initial reaction was that it would not be a good idea. However, then I started thinking how I got started in Drupal theming and that was by copying Garland theme back in the days
lauriii	So that changed my mind and I started wondering, why not if that’s what people are doing
lauriii	It gives people a more well defined starting point than Classy which can be helpful for someone new to web development
mherchel	From the Olivero pov, most people want to change the colors
lauriii	I think there are various use cases
lauriii	there’s the use case where you want something that looks like Olivero
lauriii	but there’s also a use case where you don’t want it to look like Olivero at all
mherchel	Is there anything that we can do within the theme to help?
lauriii	You just want a more well defined starting point that provides some structure for the work
lauriii	I guess the CLI tool could be adopted to support using Olivero as a starting point for a new theme
lauriii	What is essentially does is copies the theme in a new folder and renames it
mtift	Maybe I'm a bit old fashion, but sometimes I miss the old copy, paste, and modify workflow. I really like the idea of a cli tool that doesn't something similar, at least in theory. So my initial reaction is :thumbsup:
mherchel	the starterkit would also need some npm config to regenerate the CSS
lauriii	Depending on the user/developer, that could be what they want (edited)
mtift	If it also included some brief guidance about things that could be rather safely modified while still retaining key accessibility features. I realize that might be tricky, but I like the idea of allowing other people to incorporate all/much of the accessibility work that has gone into Olivero.

4️⃣ Where can people help this week? (edited)

mtift	Share your suggestions here
mherchel	Technical Debt issue needs review[#3173014] (edited)
mherchel	@proeung and or @kostyashupenko :point_up:
mherchel	Accessibility issues that need both code and accessibility review[#3186349]
mherchel	Form design implementation needs design and code review[#3194350]

Participants:

mherchel, gaurav mahlawat, shaal, hansa11, katannshaw, markdorison, Prashant Kumar, anjalivijay, lauriii, proeung, AmyJune (volkswagenchick she/her), mansoor20, thejimbirch, mtift, Andrei Zvonkov