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Drupal.org customizations
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7.x-3.x-dev
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Feature request
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30 Jun 2015 at 12:59 UTC
Updated:
24 Mar 2023 at 21:48 UTC
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Comment #1
webchickI think the rationale is you got credit for those 495 commits under Projects > Drupal core. Versus this section is checking issue activity (and specifically issues *fixed*) in that time.
(Not saying I agree with this rationale, just saying they're tracking two different things, and that credit is multi-faceted.)
Comment #2
webchickA couple of ways I could think of to help with this:
1) In the Git commit message string generator thing, pre-populate the --signoff property with the maintainer's information. Count those in the stat about "Contributed to fixing XX issues in the past 3 months." Might need changes to Version Control API, I dunno.
2) Get rid of the silly historical projects/commits listing (or bury it on a sub-tab somewhere) in favour of a "recent commits" block "Committed X times in the past 3 months" or whatever. Then "Poll (from core)" would not be my second-highest committed-to project, and people would stop asking me about Organic groups, which I haven't maintained since 4.7. ;)
Comment #3
alexpottYes, the committers contribution is listed under Projects > Drupal core. However, we're now also listing contribution in another list and not stating what this contribution is and is not tracking. I think that the solution to this will be to combine all the lists and be explicit about what is counted - maybe with separate columns.
Comment #4
joshuamiAgreed. We have plans to continue working on how we show the issue credits—both on user profiles and organization profiles. I will check with @drumm to see if the committer will get pulled in as an issue credit from the historical commit messages when those get parsed. If they don't, they should.
I've changed the title around a little to reflect this as a user story that we can prioritize and get into the work plan. Now that we actually know what the data looks like, we plan to start mocking up better profile views.
Comment #5
drummShould commits be summed up into the same number as issue credits? I think
--authoris strong enough of a signal to be called out. And commits without issues, while non-ideal, do happen for initial development and other getting things done.I think the lists could be combined, together with #2042697: Add historical issue credits to Drupal.org user profile:
That could use some UX work, maybe better punctuation can be found, or do something more visual.
Comment #6
yesct commentedI dont think we need to separate out the commits from the totals. they can appear a bit different in the view if necessary (like if there was no issue), otherwise, link to the issue same as if they had otherwise gotten credit via the credit UI or the commit message.
Comment #7
joshuamiThis might be a good case for a well designed table. Here are a couple of variations on how we might compact quite a bit of this data into a relatively small place.
In these examples, the totals would link to views with the details of either credits (as in the current links on the profile) or commits (we do not have a view for this right now).
Comment #8
webchickOh dear. :) The profile page is more than busy enough as it is without the weight of a big table like that, IMO.
I would much rather we hide the complexity behind something user-friendly and extensible. For reference, here's what the proposed mockup was in Dries's keynote in LA:
So something like:
Activity in last 3 months
12 issues closed
495 commits
23 documentation edits
Some other heading that implies more permanence
24 projects authored
5 projects maintained
....whatever. And then clicking through "more info" goes through to a table with more details on which issues/projects/commits/etc.
Comment #9
joshuamiThe table approach would definitely be busy. While a bit more design time could make it look a lot less busy, I like the idea of condensing the information even further. I still like the idea of a table for this sort of information, if we can distill it down a bit more.
That said, I do really like that last section you comped up. How about calling the longer term section "project contributions"? We should also use the term "issue credits" instead of issues closed. That may create an impression that the issue statuses were changed to get the credit.
Activity in last 90 days
12 issue credits
495 commits
23 documentation edits
Project contributions
24 projects authored
5 projects maintained
The views linked from each count would need to be a bit more detailed, perhaps a view with a filter for project in addition to the information there now, but I like the idea of taking that complexity off of this page.
Comment #10
webchickWell, I guess my concern with table columns is that it's definitely a goal to expand the types of credit we can show on D.o user profiles far beyond just code-y things. D8 Accelerate contribution, documentation, support, event sponsorship, sprint leading/participation, mentorship, design, UX, etc. etc. The table simply will not scale out to more than about 3 things without causing a horizontal scrollbar (and on mobile even the simpler three-column table in #9 likely doesn't fit into the viewport even by itself).
Comment #11
jhodgdonOn my profile it says I only contributed to fixing 52 core issues in the last 3 months. What is it counting, exactly, as "contributed to fixing"?????
I review way more than that count every week, and I'm certain that there have been more than 55 of them fixed in the last 3 months. Seeing this number on my profile makes me really kind of angry. Is there some way I could just remove it?
So... I really don't care whether my name gets added to the commit credits or not, as I think that people I care about know what kind of contribution I make to Core and to Drupal in general. But quantifying it that way, right there on my profile, saying "... contributed to fixing..." and limiting it (apparently) to whether someone gave me commit credit is going against the whole idea that had been floating around of valuing all kinds of contributions (like reviews, which are not by default checked in the commit credits and are definitely not being applied uniformly).
Can we remove this until we can get it right?
Comment #12
jhodgdonYeah, and alexpott only "contributed" to 66 Core issues, and webchick 7. Uh....
Comment #13
webchickFWIW the metric I believe is calculated by issues marked fixed/closed(fixed) of which you have been checked as someone deserving of credit on the issue. The intent being to highlight bringing issues to completion vs. simply commenting (which anyone can do).
If you submitted code, the credit is automatic, but most of us (at least in the core queue) do try and explicitly check others who've contributed significantly.
Is there a better label that we could use here to make that clearer?
Comment #14
David_Rothstein commentedI was also thrown off by how few Drupal core issues it says I helped fix, and even more thrown off by how few Drupal core issues it says some of the people above helped fix :) This will also be an issue for contrib module maintainers.
As an interim fix, could it be renamed to "Credited on X issues fixed in the past 3 months"?
Comment #15
David_Rothstein commentedI would also agree that displaying additional stats along with it makes sense. This one particular stat isn't really useful enough to deserve so much focus on its own, because:
I would like to see stats like number of comments during the past 3 months (including forum posts too, not just issues), number of patches posted during the past 3 months, etc. I think those are generally more useful as a measure of activity than this "issue credit" stat.
Really like the overall change here, though.
Comment #16
jhodgdon+1 on the title fix in #14. That would at least be more descriptive of what it is showing.
But really I still think if we're going to walk the talk about the community valuing all contributions, we should have a low bar and credit anyone who commented on an issue as "contributing to fixing", whether or not the committer checked the box.
And if we wanted to make such a big deal about checking the box as the only way that comments/reviews "counted" or "contributed" to fixing the issue, it should have been better announced. Until yesterday, I (who I think is generally fairly on top of what's happening, reads the posts in Core and Planet etc.) knew about that area only as an instantaneous tool to easily make commit messages I could copy/paste, not as a tool for gathering metrics that were going to affect people's user profiles. So for instance I haven't gotten credit for fixing many issues in the past 3 months on my own contrib projects where I made the issue and committed the fix without uploading a patch or checking that box. What a farce!
Comment #17
jhodgdonAnd I also take issue with what webchick says in #13. This is not actually happening for issues in Drupal Core... when I look at Core issues that have recently been fixed or closed/fixed in my issue queue, issues whose patches I reviewed carefully, and in many cases multiple times and often really I was a collaborator on getting the code working or cleaner or more efficient (they're not all docs ones), I do not have credit on very many of them.
Also just a question: what if a patch gets committed and then marked "to be ported" to 7.x -- does it get into the list at all then? It could be years (or never) before the port is done, but if anything those are even more important issues in many cases than the ones that just get "fixed".
Comment #18
David_Rothstein commentedI believe it does not - see my last example in #15.
Comment #19
yesct commentedI think the table could be used on a separate page that gets linked from the profile, but not on the profile itself.
Sounds like the concerns in #15 need separate issues.
I agree with the relabeling of the area *on* the profile with
Credited on X issues fixed in the past 3 months
is a transparency improvement.
I also, think that the page it links to needs a good label also. ... so here is an issue for that: #2522070: Give better context for list of issues credited on d.o
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Suggestion, on the d.o profile, give a total:
Credited on X issues fixed in the past 3 months
and do not list them by project.
link
X issues
to a page per user, which has the table @joshuami is suggesting.
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I listed proposed resolutions in the summary.
Comment #20
yesct commentedstarting a remaining tasks list in the summary so we do not lose track of things to do.
Comment #21
yesct commentedsome contribution credit issues have d.o profile improvements tag, and some have nothing and are easy to get lost (and not about profiles), so tagging to organize credit ones.
Comment #22
David_Rothstein commentedThe current behavior is confusing enough to be called a bug.
Here's at least a patch for #14, which is the simplest improvement from the above discussion (although not a complete fix).
Comment #23
David_Rothstein commentedLooks like one of the side problems mentioned above now has a separate issue.
Comment #24
xjmI think #22 is a good incremental improvement, though maybe a separate issue since the scope of this is much wider? Way meta: We have some of the same contribution crediting difficulties for @David_Rothstein's patch itself. :D
Comment #26
drummI went ahead and committed #22. It will be deployed within an hour from now.
Comment #27
xjmI was talking to Vj today at DrupalCon Asia and we discussed that it would be good to be able to see all contributions, including older ones, somewhere on Drupal.org. So a user's profile could have a link to "See all issue contributions" that would link the full list for all time instead of just the past 90 days.
Comment #28
xjm@YesCT filed #2787355: Link to all history removed when N is 0 in "Credited on N issues fixed in the past Y months" for #27.
Comment #29
bramdriesenSorry to dig up a very old ticket (was looking at my very first "posts" list 😉), but I'm wondering how relevant this ticket is in 2023.
Multiple things are already addressed in this day and age. For example the
Credited on X issues fixed in the past 3 monthshas been replaced by showing the full list of credits for all projects. So in shortCredited on X fixed issues.Also the commits part I think is a lot more visible now with GitLab where you can see the commit over a timeframe and also the projects in which those happend. To add on that, counting commits is not a metric for productivity. It's also not part anymore of the Drupal.org profile itself anymore since the integration of GitLab.
You now also have the list of projects you maintain at the bottom of your profile.
My gut instinct is telling me that we could close this issue.