English Summary Follows the Japanese:

日本のDrupalコミュニテイの皆様へお知らせがあります。福岡を拠点にする江戸ズングループは、日本のコミュニテイと私たちのお客様のため多くの興味深いDrupalプロジェクトにたくさんの労力を注いでおります。コミュニテイが関心を持つかもしれない1つのプロジェクトは、edozun7という名称のCiviCRMに基づいた最初の完全な日本局地化のCRMです。アメリカの政治的システムへ強く連動するアメリカ中心を分布する基本的なCiviCRMとは違い、edozun7は正確に多バイト言語とともに適確に運用するためにデザインされています。

私たちのお客様は、日本語、中国語、英語、その他の言語を適切にサポートするより良いソリューションを必要とした日本の企業、中国の企業、国際企業であります。なんとも皮肉ですが、ハーバード大学、ニューヨーク州立大学、シンガポールのSIM大学、またその他の多数の非日本の組織からedozun7の運用を選択していただいています。海外での人気が広まっていることがお分かりいただけるために、迅速でアクテイブな私たちの英語のウェブサイト http://edozun.com/en をぜひご覧ください。

私たちは只今完全なドキュメンテーションと多様な日本の支払いプロセッサーをサポート、スマーター日本サポートの改良のための準備に力を注いでいます。既に日本語/中国語/英語のインストーラ、デフォルトデータベース、インラインユーザーヘルプと完全な日本のユーザーインターフェースは完成しております。

私たちの進歩を皆さんに見ていただきたく、私たちはデモを用意しております。ぜひそれをご覧になっていただいて、その改善の助長をしていただけることを願っております。このような大きなプロジェクトの必須性は、日本のDrupalコミュニテイのサポートを促進し、Drupalへより前進した能力を加えることができる事と、私たちは信じています。私たちの開発チームはとても多様で、そのプロジェクトに参加している人々の多くは二カ国語併用としています。そのプロジェクトに献身している日本、アメリカ、中国の大変熟練したプログラマーの方々を含め、日本の福岡県を拠点としたこのプロジェクトに関しまして、ぜひ皆様の協力にて広めていただければ幸いです。

日本語のデモは、http://demo.edozun.jp にてぜひご覧ください。

まだそれは完璧ではありませんが、安定はしています。何ヶ月もの労力により、何千数ものコードのラインと翻訳もここまで成し遂げてまいりました。ぜひそのデモをご覧になって、皆様が、http://edozun.jp にてedozun7のcrmプロジェクトに参加してくださることを心よりお待ちしております。

恐れ入りますが、私たちのウェブサイトはまだ完全に整理されておりません。只今、完全な二国語併用のウェブサイトを設定している最中でございます。1つのサイトで日本語のコミュニテイ、英語のコミュニテイ、中国語のコミュニテイが共に運用できるようにするため、ある程度の妥協は必要でございました。

私たちはこのプロジェクトが皆様の協力にて広まり、またこれからも皆様の助長をいただく必要があります。大変恐れ入りますが、このメッセージを掲示させていただきます。

We have been working with CiviCRM for some time. We have deployed some very large and heavily modified versions that where put in place for use by various governmental organizations in Japan (ironically) with databases that easily exceeded 4 million records and needed to scale to 12 million entirely in Japanese.


It was originally designed as an exploratory project that was to last a little more than a year and then get disassembled. Incidentally, it had nothing to do with technology or the internet (it was secured intranet) but rather an evaluation of human organizational behavior (long story) within an entity with many thousands of employees. What we got back was a list of enhancements and modifications that are to be made for the project and to the original CiviCRM core that takes it on a very interesting path, albeit a different one from what it was originally intended for. Little to do with advocacy, sorry. Since we have been contracted with maintaining these modifications and modules on behalf of our clients and we have received so much interest from our own community we decided to start building all our solutions around the original core under our own distribution. Unfortunately it is unlikely to remain fully compatible with CiviCRM as we are actually removing a number of items and rebuilding them to meet our needs because we are addressing an entirely different set of priorities.


Another interesting outcome of the project was a turnaround on our clients reluctance to accept Drupal, we where actually explicitly and sternly told that Drupal was not to be used and had used Joomla originally for the project. After some time however we where able to convince the key members of our community that Drupal was more appropriate for our collective short and long term goals. This, along with utilizing CiviCRM, it worked out as well.


However, that aside, one of the things we are building that may indeed be of interest to the greater community is a course management system that sits on top of Drupal and works along with edozun7 which is our CiviCRM derivative that is being groomed and hacked up for this eventuality. We have also been porting over modules that are specific to higher education from another project of ours on the commercial side and it is packaged around edozun7 as well.


I would like to stress, these developments are a little backwards because they originate in Japan in Japanese first and then are translated into English. We are however making a major effort to keep the project accessible to as many people as possible by translating the Japanese material into english and have redesigned our website to offer equal accessibility to the english speaking community and others including Chinese and naturally our native Japanese. So if anyone is interested in the course management system project for Drupal you should drop by edozun.com and let us know your thoughts.


All source is naturally available under AGPLv1 since we forked from CiviCRM 1.9, however we like GNU AGPL v3 better and will merge back into CiviCRM 2 and build out from there since Lobo and gang wisely went to AGPL v3. Anyway, more interesting news in the world of Drupal.

Comments

lobo’s picture

Thanx for the report and update on edozon. Very interesting, and definitely something very cool

a bit sad that you'll are planning to create and maintain your own fork. We hoped that you'll would help build and maintain a civicrm jp/cn based distribution.

lobo

http://civicrm.org/
http://civicrm.org/blog/
http://wiki.civicrm.org/
http://lobostravel.blogspot.com/

kaizu’s picture

I want to touch base with you on it as it had a lot to do with the client I discussed with you. We will still however be turning over the Japanized files for use with CiviCRM. I see an opportunity to maintain the forked version for the specific audience and still contribute back things that will remain very similar including the language files and documentation which we are finalizing in Japanese and Chinese. We have a full translation starting up in Korean, Thai and a few other Asian languages as well.


Mainly, I am having trouble reconciling the concerns of that specific big fish which has some significant sway in Japan as a whole and to be honest there is a really deep misunderstanding in my community with regard to the AGPLv1 license which we sent over to our lawyers to do an unofficial translation in Japanese and Chinese.


We think your team has the right ideas and we need to better educate our community. It was basically an all out brawl which ended up with the demand for self determination as they view it and thus this fork. But I will try to reach you sometime next week to talk turkey and share the details.

cpelham’s picture

Hi.
We'd like to take a closer look at Edozun. However, the registration screen on the Edozun site is not currently functional so there seems to be no way to download Edozun or to post on the forum. Have this site and project been abandoned?

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