Needs work
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Wikitools
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6.x-1.0
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Documentation
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15 Feb 2008 at 09:14 UTC
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11 Mar 2011 at 21:58 UTC
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Can anyone provide some information about how this module is supposed to work? What tags are supported? Are there any examples that we can see? Do we create pages to point to wiki or wiki to point to pages? ;) I installed the module in the hope that there would be some information somewhere - I'll be happy to RTM if someone can point me to one. TIA
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Comment #1
cwgordon7 commentedYes, documentation is definitely needed. Anyone who wants to write some is welcome to; if not, I'll write it myself when I have a moment.
Comment #2
cwgordon7 commentedTurning this into a documentation DROP task.
Comment #3
chrisfromredfinright now i'm just commenting to subscribe, but I may take this one once I'm done with the "section edit" functionality drop task, since when I tried to get it up and running today just to start doing the development, it took me a while to figure out how it was supposed to work! :)
Comment #4
benc commentedCwells, I am taking this but do join me after your prior task. Deal?
Benc/cryptonomikon
Comment #5
cwgordon7 commentedbenc: There's no reserving of tasks, so it's all yours!
However, if you and cwells would like to do this together, DROP does support team tasks, so that would be great/awesome too.
Comment #6
cwgordon7 commentedComment #7
Ricco commentedIn another part of the drupal site, probably for people of similar interest, I noticed a note that indicated that this group or drupal in general was going to implement a public wiki. What is the status of that? Was that just a brainstorming idea, or is there gonna be a public drupal wiki? I am hoping there will be, and will be happy to start participate in using it as soon as it comes online. If there is going to be one, what is the URL going to be? wiki.drupal.org?
Cheers! Ricco
Comment #8
benc commentedThanks! Claiming it now. (Using 'cryptonomikon' as username in the DROP site).
Comment #9
benc commentedThis is what I have so far (see DRAFT, below). I need a guide to help me build a full-featured wiki (something like wikipedia).
*DRAFT DOCUMENTATION - VER 2*
Overview
The Wikitools module builds basic wiki functionality in Drupal. (What are these basic functionalities?)
Note: to offer wiki-like notations and tags, you need also need to install additional features like Flexifilter (insert link), to create wiki sites similar to Wikipedia.org.
Here is how to install and configure Wikitools. You need administrator privileges to perform the tasks below.
Installing Wikitools
Configuring Wikitools
Next step is to tell Drupal where you wish to apply your Wiki-type notation and tools. You can do this quickly by simply linking Wikitools capability to the Page or Story node types. But if you want a Wiki that is separate from your basic website, then you first need to create a new node type.
* No need to change these for now. You can return to this later, as your need becomes more sophisticated.
Using the Wiki
LINKS to resources:
Flexifilter wiki how-to: http://drupal.org/node/217177
Comment #10
cwgordon7 commentedSeveral bad things:
Clean up your post. Use tags like
<ul>or<ol>instead of hard-coded "I.", etc.Also, your post contains a misconception about the wikitools module. It does not provide any wiki-notation by itself.
Some options are missing from the "wiki options" list you provided.
Please explain each of the wiki options, rather than just stating the title.
Comment #11
benc commentedHi Charles, thanks for these comments. I've noted them.
I need more information on how to proceed (beyond the formatting edits you suggested -- those are easy). I think my misconception will be common to most users who would like to use Wikitools, so bear with me on this. Think of me as representing the majority of users who will have the same confusion. And if I go through this experience, I can then write better documentation for the module :)
Here are the original questions posted about this module:
I know how a wiki should work and I've successfully installed the Wikitools module -- but I still don't know how the Wikitools module can be used to produce a working wiki. I threw in that rough draft because I wanted something to start with quickly. I can only proceed if someone helps me make a working wiki. :)
I need help on the following:
Thanks!
Comment #12
rötzi commentedYes, you need other modules to get a full "wiki". For the input format you can for example use "freelinking" or "pearwiki_filter". Both of these provide wikilinks in the [[Page name]] style.
Depending on your understanding what a "wiki" is, you will need other modules as well (diff, recent_changes, talk, subscriptions, views and more). The purpose of wikitools was never to provide a full wiki, but only some tools to be able to build one together with other modules. This should probably go into the documentation as well (and the project description here on drupal.org).
Comment #13
benc commentedRotzi, thanks for this.
We can reflect these in the documentation. I know there may be different interpretations of what a wiki should be, but there is a common understanding of what a wiki should at least do for most users who are expecting to run a wiki. By listing all the dependencies, then we can help users (like me) to make the wiki run.
Comment #14
chrisfromredfinI definitely agree. When I first downloaded it I was like "umm, so what tags can I use? What gives?" It took me a while before I installed Flexifilter and then some magic started happening. I think it just needs to be very clear at the top of the documentation that this module by itself only helps your site "do wiki-like things," but not all of it.
Comment #15
benc commentedThanks for the insight, cwells. I'm just clearing some work stuff and will go back to revising the documentation. If possible, could you list down other modules you used with wikitools, other than Flexifilter?
Comment #16
chrisfromredfinFlexifilter is all that I ended up using. I tried the PEAR one, but it was a little confusing (to me), so I uninstalled it rather quickly. Flexifilter more quickly gave me the functionality I needed.
Comment #17
benc commentedSome Updates:
Clean up your post. Use tags like <ul> or <ol> instead of hard-coded "I.", etc.
* * * DONE * * *
Also, your post contains a misconception about the wikitools module. It does not provide any wiki-notation by itself.
* * * CORRECTED * * *
Some options are missing from the "wiki options" list you provided.
Please explain each of the wiki options, rather than just stating the title.
* * * FIXING THESE * * *
Comment #18
benc commentedJust an update. I've successfully installed Flexifilter and configured it to run like a full-bodied wiki :)
I'm just cleaning up the steps. Will complete them over the Holy Week! Thanks to cwells and rotzi for the guidance.
Flexifilter is a powerful but confusing tool :)
Comment #19
Saki commentedI have Flexifilter installed, but it does not seem to allow me to configure it on this page (See attached):
Comment #20
patrickfrickel commentedHi cwgordon7,
You comments are valid but your tone is poor. Instructions such as "Clean up your post" etc could be phrased more appropriately such as "You can use html tags such as
. if you don't know how to do this, give me a shout so I can show you"
By making critical comments like this could lead to the author becoming discouraged. Why not add to the post regarding "wiki options" as you know about this?
Hope this assist you in becoming a constructive and useful constructive critic on the forum.
Comment #21
jpmckinney commented