One big section that we missed was how to help give support. This could probably do with just a one page rundown on different ways to offer help (and why it is so darn good to do) that links off to other resources as well. This is the existing "User support" page: http://drupal.org/contribute/support
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Comment #1
johnnocI can take this if it's okay. At present, I do not have editing rights to the page. Should i create a new page as a draft in the meantime? Or should someone with permission open this page to the docs team?
John
Comment #2
johnnocI agree. IMHO, we do not need subpages for this section. Thinking loudly, a paragraph on encouraging people to contribute to user support can be the introduction. Then ways, where and how to give support are explained.
If there are other links you guys feel that are needed to be added to the existing version at http://drupal.org/contribute/support, just say so, so I can incorporate them as well.
John
Comment #3
heather commentedI'd be glad to pitch in on this page too.
Yeah we can't edit it, since it's not a handbook page- JohnNoc, maybe you should go ahead and add a child page to 'Getting Involved' since I don't think this node can be 'converted' into a handbook type anyway? (guessing here!)
Comment #4
johnnocokay... creating a child page now...
@heather
Any ideas for this page?
Comment #5
johnnocThe page is: http://drupal.org/node/317293
Temporarily titled: User Support
Title suggestions are also very much welcome!
Comment #6
heather commentedHeya JohnNoc... I think there needs to be something delicately talking about the emotional situations that arise.
Offering support to 'newbies' can be frustrating, as you're dealing with the same questions and issues over and over, and I see some people offering support and suffering from apparent burnout. I'm concerned that they are passing on a negative impression about the Drupal Community, and running into situations where they are 'defending Drupal' against misunderstanding- when this is really not the position the Drupal user community wants to be in.
To that end I offer this advice (included as code below for easy copying and pasting into the handbook page). Note the suggested links in last part are left as http:// full paths for copying and pasting by the reader.
User Support Advice:
Tips:
Here are some suggested common links:
Comment #7
heather commented- This page 'user support' should be placed under the Talk with the community section: http://drupal.org/node/314178
- Maybe re-title page to "Giving Effective Support"
Comment #8
add1sun commentedThe main User support page I linked to in the inital issue is not a book page so you won't be able to edit it. The new page you have created will be the new page we will reference and use, so it isn't temporary. :)
I'd like the page to remain top-level in the handbook, not as a child to Talk. This is a main getting involved task that people can help out with. So, feel free to link to it from the Talk page but please leave it top level so people see it as "Hey, something I can get involved with."
Thanks for working on this folks.
Comment #9
johnnocWhoa! Great!!! Feel free to incorporate these to the page itself. We can just edit the page as we go along :-)
IMHO, This page should be in level with the others. This is one of the most important aspects of "Getting Involved" and should not be hidden under other pages.
I actually would want to create an issue regarding consistency of titling the pages on this handbook. I think we should use action verbs in present tense and simple form (give, help, translate, report, etc)
Anyway, going to the gym for a while. Be back in a bit.
Comment #10
johnnocOh didn't see add1sun's comment before posting mine....
+1
Comment #11
heather commentedAh cool!
I incorporated the changes I write of above and amended some after seeing it in-situ
http://drupal.org/node/317293
Comment #12
johnnocThe page is more than good enough and is almost finished (if not already finished). The changes I think after the present version will be minor edits or probably some moving of elements and little additions. I'll change the status of the page to "No known problems" already. IMHO, it is ok to point the url alias http://drupal.org/contribute/support to the new page at http://drupal.org/node/317293 already.
Comment #13
johnnocI think it is also safe to change this issue's status to "fixed". Just open it up again if you feel like it :-)
Comment #14
add1sun commentedURL alias has been changed. Thanks to both of you for banging this one out!
Comment #15
heather commentedwoot!
/me tries to high five _JohnNoc_ and trips over her laces and falls flat on her face.
Comment #16
johnnocheh!
/me ran to the medicine cabinet and got some bandages for heather.
Comment #17
Anonymous (not verified) commentedAutomatically closed -- issue fixed for two weeks with no activity.