Frontend Meeting - September 6 2022 Meeting in Slack

This is the frontend meeting for Drupal.org. This meeting takes place every Tuesday at 3pm UTC (8:30pm IST, 5pm CEST, 11am EST, 8am PST). See Time.is to see what that is in your timezone.

The meetings are held in the #frontend Slack channel on drupal.slack.com.

UPDATE (transcript added)

Introductions (Please include your drupal.org name to make crediting easier!) :thread:
12 replies

katannshaw
cindytwilliams
ckrina
AkshayAdhav
UjjwalAhluwalia
saschaeggi
lauriii
shaal
mherchel
markie
omkar-pd
ameymudras

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What agenda items would you like to discuss today?
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Any further general updates from the maintainers or product managers? :thread:
2 replies

mherchel
Will give update in hour or so

mherchel
Not too much work going on directly in Olivero at the moment, but there's a lot of work being done outside:
Fixed! https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3306864
Integrate Twig with Symfony VarDumper for improved debugging experience

Fixed! https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3303112
Olivero: When in Safari, clicking "X" when search is open does not collapse the search

Fixed! https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3291797
Refactor Drupal 10 settings tray / off-canvas to use modern CSS

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Where can contributors help this week? :thread:
4 replies

katannshaw
Note: If you want your item added to a new topic thread, add a thread icon :thread: with it

mherchel
I would LOVE to see some forward progress on https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3278493. It requires some backend skill
Make it easier for theme builders to enable Twig debugging and disable render cache

mherchel
https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3301623 Needs review. Its not passing tests (not sure why), but in the meantime, it still needs some code and manual review :pray:
Add Olivero-like primary navigation to Starterkit theme

mherchel
And here's another one for backend devs who want to help out. Allow theme generator tool to clone Olivero
Allow theme generator tool to clone Olivero

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Any other general #frontend subjects to discuss can go here :thread:
6 replies

ckrina
Ideas to post for TriviaNight? https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C2YEAPQ7R/p1662032089578589

ckrina
:thread: Toolbar meetings planning fro DrupalCon week (edited)

katannshaw
@ckrina Do you want the trivia night one as a new topic as well?

ckrina
Maybe it’d be good so people can throw ideas there? (edited)

mherchel
Go Olivero! https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/09/accessibility-usability-drupal-...

ckrina
YASSS

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Fun question: Which is better? Pancakes :pancakes: or waffles :waffle: ? :thread: (edited)
7 replies

cindytwilliams
:waffle:

katannshaw
This is a hard one but I think I’ll choose waffles. :waffle: (edited)

Akshay

Pancake :pancakes:

katannshaw
You really can’t go wrong with either of them IMHO.

saschaeggi
:pancakes:

lauriii
:waffle:

mherchel
:pancakes:

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TOPIC 1: Toolbar meetings planning for DrupalCon week :thread:

ckrina
I think we should have at least 2 meetings:

ckrina
Toolbar short-term solution to discuss https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3020422 and https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3097907
Drupal.org
Active toolbar tray has weak affordance and fails WCAG color criteria

ckrina
B. Long term design solution to replace Toolbar, and that is related to https://www.drupal.org/project/ideas/issues/3203618 and https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3076820
New “content creation” menu proposal
[META] Layout redesign

ckrina
First, we need to know who need to be on each of them, and later set topics to cover

ckrina
For A, the Toolbar redesign, I’d say we need @dww and a accessibility maintainer such as @bnjmnm (who already said was in if we find a good time) or @andrewmacpherson @rain

@Mike Gifford (CivicActions) and ideally somebody on the design side (either me or @saschaeggi)

ckrina
For B, first ideas I’d say we need @saschaeggi

@lauriii
@mherchel. Anybody else interested?

ckrina
Anybody else interested on joining any of those?

saschaeggi
Also we want to explore a more usable (& accessible) sidebar design in https://www.drupal.org/project/gin/issues/3255396 which could serve as an inspiration/testbed for Claro
/cc @mherchel

ckrina
Exactly. This is the goal of the 2nd one, it’s just we don’t have any issue created for core yet. I guess it’ll need a plan & then we can move it to an issue :slightly_smiling_face:

mherchel
@ckrina it sounds like there won't be any core accessibility maintainers at DrupalCon. Will the meetings still be productive without them?

ckrina
We can do Zoom calls if we find a quiet spot

mherchel
:thumbsup: we can find a quiet spot

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TOPIC 2: Ideas to post for TriviaNight? https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C2YEAPQ7R/p1662032089578589 :thread:
4 replies

mherchel
Drupal core (9.5 and later) will now have a vastly improved Twig {{ dump() }} output! https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3306864

ckrina
@katannshaw agh, I posted the wrong link

ckrina
this is the good one https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C0D5GJZ8B/p1661953866514799

mherchel
I already submitted some, but I'm not going to tell you all in case you're not on my team!!!!!! :devil:

ckrina
booooooh

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