Drupal 10 readiness meeting / 23 November 2020 [#3181730]

Meeting will happen in #d10readiness on drupal.slack.com.

Hello and welcome to this Drupal 10 readiness meeting!

This meeting:
➤ Is for core and contributed project developers as well as people who have integrations and services related to core. Site developers who want to stay in the know to keep up-to-date for the easiest Drupal 10 upgrade of their sites are also welcome.
➤ Usually happens every other Monday at 18:00 UTC.
➤ Is done over chat.
➤ Happens in threads, which you can follow to be notified of new replies even if you don’t comment in the thread. You may also join the meeting later and participate asynchronously!
➤ Has a public agenda anyone can add to: `https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3181730`
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0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread below to introduce yourself.

greg.1.anderson	g1a@sf
Matroskeen	:wave: Ivan, Ukraine
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Gábor in Hungary
larowlan	Lee, au
hussainweb	Hussain, Toronto area
dan2k3k4	Dan, Zürich
andypost	Andy, interwebs
catch	Nat, UK, a bit late.
shaal	Ofer Shaal, Florida, very late :grin:

1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.

andypost

Some issue about PHP 8 attributesSymfony 6 adopted it for routing alreadyOTOH it's more about language and https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C014CT1CN1M/p1606148517369000?thread_t...

2️⃣ General status of Drupal 10

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)

PHP 8 support is achieved in core in 9.2.x and almost in 9.1.x. See 3️⃣ for more.

3️⃣ PHP 8 is now supported in Drupal 9.2 fully and with caveats in 9.1 as well

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Drupal 9.2.x is fully tested and is compatible with PHP 8.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Drupal 9.1.x is compatible IF YOU USEcomposer install --ignore-platform-req=phpand is also not currently tested on PHP 8
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	#3180207: Update laminas-diactoros, laminas-escaper and laminas-feed for PHP 8 compatibility is not yet backported to 9.1.x
hussainweb	I managed to test this again manually and it worked well. This was my standard test with Umami and along with a few contrib modules such as pathauto, redis, admin_toolbar, etc.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	#3098281: Ensure that 'composer update' evaluates dependencies using the correct PHP version is not backported and would be needed for testing
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	wait, that IS backported
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	so its only the Laminas issue apparently
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	the Laminas issue is debated in the committer team
larowlan	Nice work all
andypost	Btw core supports uploadprogress library which soon could be ready for 8.0,I expect issues because this subsystem still broken in core [#1561866]Ref https://github.com/php/pecl-php-uploadprogress/pull/5#issuecomment-73237... (edited)
andypost	Btw CI containers needs bump for latest RC or wait til release on Wed
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	at this point the release is SO close
xjm	@andypost Can you tag that issue for the 9.1.0 release notes (so we highlight it as a known issue) and release manager review? /cc @catch
xjm	@andypost Are you saying that this issue will cause new bug reports with PHP 8, or that fixing it will address other existing bug reports from before?
andypost	I mean a case of core has broken support for session progress implementation and php 8 pecl uploadprogress is not ready. so 9.1 on php 8 has no compatible progress indicators
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	@andypost but that is a missing feature, similar to not having the PECL extension installed on PHP 7 right? our feature detection falls back on not providing that feature then

4️⃣ Drupal 9 compatibility in contrib

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	@Kristen Pol (she/her) helped with collecting sponsor organization information for the top 200 projects that only need an info file change and I started contacting some of them… got some good responses
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I also just started a giveaway today similar to DrupalCares for Drupal 9 compatible projects. See https://twitter.com/gaborhojtsy/status/1330923816328065024 :slightly_smiling_face:
andypost	Another question appears about core=8.x remains removal in contrib as 8.8 soon will go out if security support
andypost	And upcoming depreciations in 9.2 could be incompatible
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Good point @andypost
xjm	I think it's up to contrib whether they remove it or not.
xjm	We can recommend it, but frankly there are thousands of sites using 8.7.x and earlier still.

5️⃣ Drupal 10 at DrupalCon Europe (in two weeks!)

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I posted a rundown at https://twitter.com/gaborhojtsy/status/1326905891774476294
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	almost all the BoF slots are open if we want to do discussions about specific Drupal 10 topics
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Maybe @bnjmnm wants to do a BoF about jQuery UI stuff or @zrpnr want to do one about CKEditor? :slightly_smiling_face:
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I think the contribution submission feature should be working but is not yet linked from https://events.drupal.org/europe2020/contribution (edited)
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	it would be great to have various contribution teams for things we want to do, like Symfony 6 (@longwave, @mkalkbrenner, @andypost may be interested?)
larowlan	Is this in person event or online
dan2k3k4	@larowlan online
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	it is online, generally from 8am to 5pm GMT on the days of the event
andypost	@Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) on my side there's high chances that I can get free for contributor day
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	@andypost woot :slightly_smiling_face:

6️⃣ Symfony 6 compatibility

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	#3161889: [META] Symfony 6 compatibility has not moved in 2 months
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	it would be great to find more people interested in this :slightly_smiling_face: @mikelutz (he/him) has a patch that produces a bunch of problems but those need to be broken out to issues for individual discussion
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Symfony 5.2 is already RC so its deprecations should be fully defined
andypost	https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C014CT1CN1M/p1606163953384800?thread_t... files for separate topic for attributesRef https://symfony.com/blog/new-in-symfony-5-2-php-8-attributes
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Well, this is not about adopting new (especially not PHP 8 based) structures per say, but more like resolving any deprecations.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I sent @mikelutz (he/him)’s patch for a retest for now.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	the Symfony 5 experiment patch did not apply anymore, so I manually rerolled it. Now it fails with a phpunit prophecy fail, not sure what to do about that one, but it at least applies and attempts to run :smile: cc @andypost @mikelutz (he/him) #3161889: [META] Symfony 6 compatibility#comment-13915006
longwave	phpspec/prophecy-phpunit:^2 is required for phpunit 9
longwave	if you composer require that on your patch it should work
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	ah :smile:
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Included that but now it complains about some xml format with PHPunit. #3161889: [META] Symfony 6 compatibility#comment-13916762
longwave	that xml thing is only a warning and can be ignored, for now
longwave	14 fails is not bad!
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Hm when I looked it did not look believable but maybe I looked at the wrong thing. On my phone now. Will check tomorrow :)