Hello All,

I am not sure this is the right place to post this but I don't see where else to post this. Please let me know where I should or could post this.

I have a current Drupal 5.7 installation (it is for a pilot project) that is using wysiwig pro (a commercial editor). There was a module doing the integration and some settings for the editor. I have tested a few other editors but Wysiwyg Pro is the best I found and was the most advanced (there were some issue but it is pretty good). It for example is the only one I found allowing uploading files, inserting images, etc. in a user friendly manner.

The Wysiwyg pro module has been removed from the Drupal website because of licensing. Needless to say, I was disappointed.

I would like to still use Wysiwyg Pro for my website and I am ready to maintain the module (or hire someone to maintain it). This at least until there is an equivalent editor available for Drupal.

Would using Wysiwyg Pro be against Drupal Licensing? Can I continue using the module I have? Can I have a module developed or adapted just for me and use Wysiwyg Pro on my website?

Pascal

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Title: module for commercial wysiwyg editor » Wysiwyg Pro editor support
Version: 5.x-0.2 » 5.x-1.x-dev
Status: Active » Postponed

Basically, Wysiwyg API's goal is to integrate any client-side editor in the wild. So Wysiwyg Pro could be supported. However, I doubt that there will be much support for it from the community, because it is commercial.

Anyway, support for different editors and editor versions is not yet included, though it has top priority in current developments.

I'll mark this postponed for now. If there is enough interest in Wysiwyg Pro support over time, we might find someone who implements it.

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Status: Postponed » Active

Hello Sun,

And thanks for your quick reply.

I had an email exchange with the people who are developing Wysiwyg pro and they where told the the module had been removed because it is "connecting" to Drupal and therefor braking the drupal license. I understand from the Wysiwyg API project that its goal is exactly to offer the possibility to "connect" to Drupal!

Below is what the Wysiwyg devlopper say:
"The point is that Drupal is GPL, and as such…. ANY commercial product that accesses ANY of the internal routines in any way… violates the GPL.

Editors require a deeper level of integration with Drupal than other types of modules. WysiwygPro MUST access the Drupal CORE API in order to get and work with Drupal content.

The ONLY thing the script does is access a simple function call to get the content loaded into the editor."

This is confusing to me, could you please help or clarify this for me?

Thanks,
Pascal

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paulvantuyl CreditAttribution: paulvantuyl commented

I just wanted to add that I wasn't able to download the latest version of their plugin since they pulled it from their site and since Drupal pulled it. I have already purchased a license for it and so far it has been the best editor for me. If ANYONE has the latest version of the plugin (version Drupal BETA2), please contact me since I would like to have it. Thanks

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Status: Active » Postponed
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Thanks,

It is good to see that there is some hope for this.

One on the people who are developing WysiwygPro told me that they where not allowed to keep the Drupal module (for free) on Drupal.org (OK, I can understand). But the BIG problem is that one line of the software is calling an API in core Drupal and that since WWPro is a commercial license, the module and everything disappeared from Drupal.org. And worse they where not allowed to sell their product because they are violating the Drupal license.

I this licensing issue is solved, I am willing to support this module, or to pay for it's support if I am not qualified (most likely :( ).

In short, Is this Module legal or illegal? I have tried to find a better place to post this question, but could find one (help is welcome).

Any advice on this?

Thanks,
Pascal

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This module, Wysiwyg API, is legal.

However, there is no support for the "Wysiwyg Pro" editor yet. Beware that this is a name clash.

When Wysiwyg API supports multiple editors (see issue in the queue), we will be able to get back to this issue and see whether Wysiwyg Pro editor can be implemented without licensing issues.

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I do understand and know the differecne between the Wysiwyg API (a drupal modul) and the Wysiwyg Pro editor (a commercial software).

The API is of course legal in Drupal, it is Drupal :)

What about the software?
The question was: Is the Software legal? From what you say, it is not currently legal (I understand that this is because the Module (not the API) for the wysiwyg Pro Software was calling a API in drupal core; and this is ilegal.

2 questions:
Can I devlop my own drupal modul and integrate the Wysiwyg Pro software?
Whe do you think the API will be ready (an estimate in terms of month is fine)?

Thanks,
Pascal

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Sorry, I cannot tell you whether the Wysiwyg Pro software is legal.
You can develop whatever you want to develop. No one will hinder you.
Wysiwyg API will be ready when it's ready. Sorry, this is open-source. Unless no one steps up to sponsor development, all of this is done in the spare time of a few developers.

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Category: support » feature
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Title: Wysiwyg Pro editor support » Add editor: Wysiwyg Pro
Version: 5.x-1.x-dev » 6.x-2.x-dev
Component: Wysiwyg Editor » Code
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perandre CreditAttribution: perandre commented

From the discussion here, it seems to me that it would be possible to make the Wysiwyg module support Wysiwyg Pro legally.
Why add another editor? There are several good editors already supported. The special thing with Wysiwyg Pro is not the text editor; it's the file browser (good mix of IMCE and Imagebrowser++).

And: I'm interested in sponsoring the development.