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Overall I think these directions are good (although I'm not a copy writer). Two suggestions:
- Most people tend to scan vs read, so having a list is great. As is the bold key text on point #1. Recommend bolding the key point of each bullet point.
- Currently the Migrate is a one-shot deal, you can't redo it, I think this should be stressed here, maybe an additional point or added to the last sentence (in bold).
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#33 | interdiff-29-33.txt | 2.18 KB | jofitz |
#33 | 2905222-33.patch | 7.9 KB | jofitz |
#29 | interdiff_26-29.txt | 797 bytes | heddn |
#29 | 2905222-29.patch | 7.88 KB | heddn |
Comments
Comment #2
yoroy CreditAttribution: yoroy at Roy Scholten commentedJust clarifying things a bit. Thanks for reviewing and starting the issue.
Comment #3
heddnTagging
Comment #4
heddnThis is a blocker for #2905491: Mark Migrate Drupal UI as stable
Comment #5
yoroy CreditAttribution: yoroy at Roy Scholten commented---
Upgrade a site by importing its database and files into a clean and empty new install of Drupal 8. See the [Drupal site upgrades handbook] for more information.
The upgrade can take a long time. It is better to upgrade from a local copy of your site instead of directly from your live site.
Comment #6
quietone CreditAttribution: quietone commentedI quite like the old site/new site definitions.
One question is the about the phrases 'import the old site into' and 'imported into it'. Is that right? I mean I would just say, 'import the old site to' and 'imported to it'. I don't mind at all what is used, I am just curious.
Comment #7
yoroy CreditAttribution: yoroy at Roy Scholten commentedThanks! Me no native speaker so by all means correct or simplify where necessary :)
Comment #8
quietone CreditAttribution: quietone commentedAnd I am old enough that my native language has been changed by the young ones (as they should). I am not sure what is correct, either!
Comment #9
edysmpfrom #5 and #6.
Comment #10
edysmpComment #11
heddnLet's add a title/label of definitions to these.
Let's bold 'backup the database'
Let's change that to "Make sure that
<strong>access to the database</strong>
for the old site is available from this new site."Bold, "If the old site has private files"
Bold, "Enable all modules on this new site"
Bold: "Do not add any content to the new site".
And let's use the term from our definition and call it new site.
Comment #12
yoroy CreditAttribution: yoroy at Roy Scholten commentedAgreed with all those changes @heddn, you found the right parts to make bold after all :)
Comment #13
heddnI just now reviewed #6 a little more closely. Isn't there something we were taught about dangling prepositions? I seem to recall something about that. How's this to improve things?
<em>New site:</em> this empty Drupal 8 installation into which you will import the old site.
Comment #14
edysmpworking in this.
Comment #15
quietone CreditAttribution: quietone commented@heddn, that is one of the myths that you and I were taught.
https://newrepublic.com/article/113187/grumpy-grammarian-dangling-prepos...
And more here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_usage_controversies
Comment #16
edysmp1. I don't know what label to use.
All others point fixed.
Comment #17
edysmpComment #19
quietone CreditAttribution: quietone commentedThe bolding looks good to me. Reading down, every line has some emphasis, and it even built up the expectation that each line would. And then point 6 has none, and I was surprised. But I guess it makes sense since the link is the important bit.
Comment #20
heddnReviewed in weekly migrate meeting and agreed this is in fact a migrate critical.
Comment #21
heddnComment #22
heddnUpdated screenshot with an attempt at adding a label to these things.
Comment #24
heddnFixing tests.
Comment #26
heddnComment #27
quietone CreditAttribution: quietone commentedLooking good. Just one reservation.
'you will import the old site.' To where? Still go the for preposition at the end 'to'. So it becomes, 'you will import the old site to.' Far better than the odd construction 'into which you will import the old site.'
Maybe we need some else to offer their opinion?
Comment #28
quietone CreditAttribution: quietone commentedThis is what I am thinking. To keep RTBC, I'll resist making the change myself.
s/site/site to./
Comment #29
heddnComment #30
quietone CreditAttribution: quietone commentedThanks!
With such a small change, I'll RTBC this while I am here.
Comment #31
larowlannit: there are two spaces here - can be fixed on commit
nit: successful (two s's) - same - can be fixed on commit
Comment #32
yoroy CreditAttribution: yoroy at Roy Scholten commentedComment #33
jofitz CreditAttribution: jofitz at ComputerMinds commentedCorrected nits highlighted in #31 and #32.
Comment #34
jofitz CreditAttribution: jofitz at ComputerMinds commentedCorrections don't make any functional difference so returning to RTBC.
Comment #35
yoroy CreditAttribution: yoroy at Roy Scholten commentedAgreed. Thanks for the quick turnaround @Jo Fitzgerald!
Comment #38
larowlanCommitted as 6cbb549 and pushed to 8.5.x
Cherry-picked as 9ffe00f and pushed to 8.4.x
Comment #39
xjmNice work on this. A few points:
We're not importing the site's database and files. We're importing the data from its database and files.
If it's a list of definitions, should it use a definition list?
"Back up" needs to be two words when it's a verb. (It's correct in HEAD.)
Also "you may need multiple tries" is kind of confusing ("a try" as a noun might not be a familiar expression); "attempts" might be better. But reading this I might wonder why I might need multiple attempts; it's not like shooting a basketball.
Finally, we aren't using the defined term "new site" here, and if I'm starting from a "clean and empty new install" then why would I want to back up the database of that?
How about "Preparation steps"?
Comment #40
xjmSorry, I totally opened this tab this morning and didn't see that @larowlan committed it hours ago before I reviewed. Things in #39 can be a followup if preferred.
Comment #41
jofitz CreditAttribution: jofitz at ComputerMinds commentedCreated a follow-up to address @xjm's comments: #2908699: Several textual and markup improvements to the Migrate Upgrade UI