I am just wondering....

Not all users are very good in written english. Do you think it is wise to add bokmål translations to the missing nynorsk translations and label them as fuzzy. Won't it be a lot easier to translate from bokmål to nynorsk by "correcting" the fuzzy strings instead of english to nynorsk.

I can add the strings in the translation tool. Moreover, will it be better if we make the effort of releasing a standardized bokmål first, so when we copy it to the missing nynorsk strings as fuzzy, the nynorsk will also be standardized from phase 1.

What do you think?

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JohnFilipstad’s picture

Title: Adding fuzzy strings » question marks

hmmm... 3 of 5 of those periods should have been question marks hehe

JohnFilipstad’s picture

Title: question marks » Adding fuzzy strings

I am thinking of contacting Noregs Mållag after we have done this bomål as fuzzy thingee.

hba’s picture

As long as we easily can identify the bokmål from the nynorsk strings, I don't really have any objections. I don't think we should tag any releases before the translations reaches some crucial percentage (70%? 80%?) anyway, so people will know they get a partial translation.

JohnFilipstad’s picture

Regarding translated strings
Have you used some kind of automatic translation, like translation memory , or something? It seems that most are fuzzy strings. This is not meant to criticize... but looking at the aggregator.po we have checked out from cvs and uploaded to the translation tool at http://www.drupalnorge.no/oversettelser/list.php?file_list=yes&file_id=8...
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....and most are like these. If you used an automatic translation, I think you should make it more strict......like in the properties: difference is only 1.... and reload/recommit new files

I don't think we should tag any releases before the translations reaches some crucial percentage (70%? 80%?)

Okeydokey!

hba’s picture

The translation files I uploaded to CVS mostly suck, and the reason for this is: On my 4.7 site (which is in nynorsk) I exported the site translation to a single .po, and split it up according to http://drupal.org/node/11311 (for 4.7 and 5.x). I haven't even checked the resulting .po's through POEdit before I checked them in. My bad.

It would of course be great if you (or anyone else) have some spare time to fix it.

Odd-inge’s picture

Assigned: JohnFilipstad » Odd-inge

Is it possible for you to email us the single .po w/c is the original exported file from your 4.7 nynorsk site. It might be easier to start from the source.

The e-mail address is oversettelse(at)drupalnorge.no

Thanks,

Odd-Inge

hba’s picture

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Sure, here it is. By the way: even though locale.modules says this translation is 18.68% finished, the _users_ only see nynorsk. (What the admins see is another matter, though :) )

zirvap’s picture

I prefer not to have bokmål fuzzy strings in the nynorsk files, for two reasons:

  • It's harder (for me) to write good nynorsk when translating from bokmål. Since the bokmål is so similar it becomes easy to take "bokmål-ish" shortcuts.
  • I'd prefer to use fuzzy (or "suggestion" if using translation server) to mark nynorsk translations that need discussion. If there's a lot of bokmål fuzzy strings, it becomes harder to find nynorsk-in-need-of-discussion strings.

I am planning to contribute to nynorsk, but probably not more than a little. If there are people who intend to do a lot of nynorsk translation who prefer bokmål fuzzy strings, I'll withdraw my objections.

JohnFilipstad’s picture

Version: 5.x-1.x-dev » 6.x-1.x-dev
Assigned: Odd-inge » Unassigned
Status: Active » Closed (won't fix)

Since we are now using the norwegian localization server for both bokmål and nynorsk, then I think this issue isn't relevant anymore. We now have a stable process of translating these two norwegian languages.

I'm changing the status of this issue then. If there's someone who don't agree, then by all means, speak up :-)

John