:wave: Howdy, the Bugsmash monthly starts in 2 hours. :bell:
Hi, and welcome to the monthly meeting of the Bug Smash community initiative. :beetle: :hammer: :tada:This meeting:Is for contributors interested in helping reduce the number of open bugs against Drupal 10 and Drupal 11 core.Usually happens every second Tuesday of the month at 04:00 UTC.Is done over chat.Happens in threads, which you can follow to be notified of new replies even if you don’t comment in the thread. You may also join the meeting later and participate asynchronously!Transcripts will be exported and posted to a core issue for this meeting. For anonymous comments, start with an 👤 emoji. To take a comment or thread off the record, start with an 🚫 emoji.
0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread to introduce yourself. We’ll keep the meeting open for 24 hours to allow for all timezones.
| larowlan | hey :wave: |
| griffynh | howdy, griff, aus :wave: e |
| el7cosmos | hello :wave: |
| dww | Derek :wave: |
0️⃣.5️⃣ Happy new year! What'd you get up to over the holidays?
| griffynh | Nice break, had a friend over from the states, so did lots of touristy bits |
| larowlan | Built a scale model replica of Big Ben from toothpicks |
| quietone | Mostly shifting related. We helped my daughter shift and setup at the new place. Then I have been re-arranging my house now that her things are mostly gone. |
1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.
| griffynh | It's been fairly quiet these past few months.I assume everyone's focused on DrupalCMS, Drupal 11 or other commitments, is there anything we'd like to change/update about Bugsmash?Some questions for the community:What do we want to change about Bugsmash in '25? What should the next focus module be?How is 'The One' going? Is that still of interest to people? How do people feel about the daily issues? Recently its just me flagging old issues to be closed or closing them outright. |
2️⃣.1️⃣ Wins - what wins have you had since the last meeting? Share your successes!
| (anonymous) | I almost feel guilty lurking in here, but all of the bugs that my unit in my organization have wanted to smash have been utterly smashed already! Really awesome work has happened here. 💙 (edited) |
2️⃣.2️⃣ Thanks - a space for callouts to other contributors who’ve helped you
2️⃣.3️⃣ Blockers - what’s getting in the way of your issues / goals
| quietone | Too many Drupal things are priority and then extra family demands laterly |
2️⃣.4️⃣ Approve last month’s minutes
| griffynh | None to action, think I forgot to do the notes for December.Will sort them when I do these for Jan. |
3️⃣ Core bug statistics - current state of open bugs
| quietone | All bugsCritical 72 Major 858 Normal 4,654 Minor 316 Total 5,900 |
| quietone | Bugs Tagged Bug SmashCritical 15 Major 231 Normal 1,094 Minor 106 Total 1,419 |
| quietone | The trend is that the number of bugs is increasing |
| dww | Personally, I've been mostly away from core and bug smashing for a few months. Busy with too many things. In general, momentum in this initiative seems down... |
4️⃣ Update on the one :o:
5️⃣ Help me - Is there anything you could use a :hand:
6️⃣ PMNMI issues that we can close this fortnight
7️⃣ Questions about Bugsmash in '25
| griffynh | Original comment: https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C014QES6HSQ/p1736824434090879?thread_t... questions:What do we want to change about Bugsmash in '25?What should the next focus module be?How is 'The One' going? Is that still of interest to people?How do people feel about the daily issues? Recently its just me flagging old issues to be closed or closing them outright. |
| griffynh | My thoughts:I'm not sure about this one, seems like the steam has come out of the initiative over the past 6 months.Next triage focusCatch suggsted some options11.2.0 release priority items - 3 ticketsDrupalCMS release target items - 3 ticketsCritical bug reports - 22 itemsMy fear with these is that they've either got too few, and we'll just be posting the same items over and over, or in the case of the criticals, they might be prohibitively hardThe One to me feels like it can be shelved, it's not been posted about much recentlyDaily to me is fine, but I'd like to move off of views and see if we get more engagement? |
| quietone | The last 6 months activity is also indicative of other priorities in the project. And things like making the first maintenance minor. |
| quietone | Yes, to changing the subsystem from views. |
| quietone | There are 72 Critical bugs, 23 haven't been updated for over a year. Maybe we should check in with those? |
| quietone | I still like the daily reminders, even if we don't engage. |
| quietone | There are 4,454 bugs that have not been triaged by this group. I still think that should be our focus. And to remember to search for duplicates. But, I still find that it is so much easier when an experienced contributor can comment. But, of course, those are the same people in demand on other aspects of the core. |
| quietone | The group triage is still in the core calendar. Maybe restart those and combine with a huddle? |
| catch | Yeah I also think shifting back to triage would be good. Getting the really old issues fixed is great when they get fixed but it's also very hard work and draining when they get stalled. |
| smustgrave | Can we change the bot to notify at different time? It usually posts around 8PM my time but if it posts during the working day I can 100% post the issues |
| quietone | Sorry, I don't see why the time matters. It is once a day, so you can check in during your work hours. |
| smustgrave | Because I can post on time vs a 10 hour delay (edited) |
| griffynh | Happy to shift the alert time if it’s more useful for you Smust.It currently fires at 10am AEST, would 8am be okay for you? |
| smustgrave | 8am your time or more? |
| griffynh | Yeah 8am our time, so two hours earlier. |
| smustgrave | If you can do it 10am my time I should be able to post everyday. Not sure if that’s doable? |
| griffynh | Sure, maybe then we cancel the daily notifications and you can schedule new ones if you want to lead it?Once we decide on the triage target module/subsystem we can lock it in |
| griffynh | It'll be the middle of the night for Aus time, so if you've not done it by the time we get up, someone on this side can post |
| smustgrave | Sounds good. And as far as component do we want to rotate it once a month. I’d vote for taxonomy, media library, or block this go round |
| griffynh | Sounds like Catch and quietone suggested we have a crack at the criticals? |
| smustgrave | I like that idea too |
| griffynh | There's only 22 items in this list: https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?text=&assigned=&submitted=&proje[…]s%5B%5D=1&version%5B%5D=any_11.&issue_tags_op=%3D&issue_tags=So I reckon a month of focus on that list should shake things up a bit.Then we can reassess in Feb? |
| smustgrave | Sounds like a plan to me |
| griffynh | Okay, lets leave this open for 24 hours, if there are any more suggestions. If not we can start making changes tomorrow. |
| smustgrave | So good to change it? |
| griffynh | Yep, I believe the current notifications were set up by @larowlan. Would you mind removing them?Smust, can you send the example notification text/links here so we can confirm before they get scheduled? |
| smustgrave | Not sure I follow |
| griffynh | Nvm, I can do it. |
| larowlan | I've deleted the reminder |
| griffynh | How’s this for the daily notification?Reminder: Hey team, it’s issue of the day time. 1️⃣ :lipstick: Check the oldest item in the Critical issue queue for today’s daily issue triage target, and please post it back here 2️⃣ :horse: grab the oldest issue on the PMNMI list and post it here for us to review if it can now be closed.What time GMT should this trigger? What’s 10am for you smust? |
| smustgrave | 10 am my time would be 3pm GMT |
| griffynh | Okay, think I’ve set it up correctly. |
| smustgrave | Thanks! |
Participants:
griffynh, larowlan, quietone, dww, catch, smustgrave
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