The 2026 Drupal Business Survey is open. Your response will help shape the future of the Drupal business ecosystem.Agenda items
Standing items
- Who is here
- Any other suggested topics
- Wins / Thanks / Blockers
- Statistics and functionality update. X new bugs were created last month. Y closed by the initiative.
- The bug I would most like to see fixed
- Update on target items from last meeting
- What should be the initiative focus for the next month?
Statistics
0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread to introduce yourself. We’ll keep the meeting open for 24 hours to allow for all timezones.
| griffynh | Hola, Griff, Aus |
| mstrelan | Hi, my name is Michael and I am from Brisbane, Australia. |
| pameeela | :wave: Pam from Noosa |
| kimb0 | Hey! Kim AU :wave::skin-tone-2: |
| acbramley | Kia Ora I am Adam from NZ but currently residing in Australia |
| lendude | Hallo, I’m Len from the Netherlands |
0️⃣.5️⃣ Are you going to DrupalCon Barcelona? What talks are you excited for?
| griffynh | I can’t go, but a mate of mine is speaking!https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2024/session/symfony-console-evolving... him out if you’re about and that sounds interesting. |
| pameeela | I'll be plugging bug smash! https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2024/session/jumpstart-your-drupal-co... |
1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.
| griffynh | It seems very quiet in Bugsmash for the last month or two, should we change things up?Are the daily threads still useful?I’m pretty busy on this end with client work, so it’s hard to give BS as much love. |
| mstrelan | Should we set a time limit on "The One" and move on to "The Next One" when we stop making progress? |
| pameeela | is anyone able to be online for the barcelona contrib day to assist new smashers? (i'll be there in person) |
2️⃣.1️⃣ Wins - what wins have you had since the last meeting? Share your successes!
2️⃣.2️⃣ Thanks - a space for callouts to other contributors who’ve helped you
2️⃣.3️⃣ Blockers - what’s getting in the way of your issues / goals
2️⃣.4️⃣ Approve last month’s minutes
| griffynh | A few previous meetings to review:JuneJulyAugust |
3️⃣ Core bug statistics - current state of open bugs
| quietone | All open bugs Critical: 74 Major: 849 Normal: 4,568 Minor: 314 Total 5,805(edited) |
| quietone | All open bugs tagged Bug Smash Initiative Critical: 14 Major: 226 Normal: 1,096 Minor: 109 Total 1,445(edited) |
| quietone | 3,653 closed issues tagged Bug Smash Initiative |
| catch | We are not that far off having as many bugsmash-closed issues as there are open issues. |
| lendude | My company has closed all our Google Accounts, so I no longer have access to the historical data I had in a spreadsheet. Also redoing a fresh batch would mean I have to figure out all the formulas again that used to calculate everything, and not finding the energy to do that |
| quietone | Oh no! Did they not give you a change to save the data? |
| lendude | Yeah like 2 years ago and then said nothing for 2 years and then closed them without warning :shrug: I could probably get them to open it up again, but that too would require effort. And it’s just the raw data that is lost, the calculated results are in the git repo for the graphs |
4️⃣ Update on the one :o:
| quietone | So, this is now to deprecated \Drupal\Component\Utility\Environment::setTimeLimit and replace it with a new method. |
| quietone | Or is it to be replaced with a config setting for automated cron? |
| catch | I think we could add new issues for both of those and then close the issue as duplicate maybe? |
| griffynh | cc @pameeela |
| pameeela | agree with catch but someone who knows more about it has to create the new issues |
| quietone | So two issues; 1) add a config setting for automated cron and 2) Deprecate Environment::setTimeLimit with no replacement ? |
| griffynh | @acbramley can you assist? |
| smustgrave | Moved over credit |
5️⃣ Help me - Is there anything you could use a :hand:
6️⃣ PMNMI issues that we can close this fortnight
| quietone | I closed quite a few in the last week or so. |
| quietone | There are now 402, with more that 50 that have not been updated in over 1 year. |
| smustgrave | Wow last I saw the PNMI queue it was 700s |
| quietone | Ah, that was 402 for PMNMI and a Bug Report. There are 738 PMNMI issues for all categories (edited) |
1️⃣.1️⃣ Bugsmash is quiet, what can we do?
| griffynh | My thoughts are here: https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C014QES6HSQ/p1725941587849349?thread_t... this a problem to solve? |
| quietone | Trial focusing on a 'component' for one month. Start with components that have maintainers and invite them to join the channel for the month. (edited) |
| pameeela | hoping to drive some interest with my session but i still do like having this, and it's ok if the threads don't get actioned some days, IMO |
| smustgrave | I still like the daily task as it’s almost a mental break to work on something random. But I also like quietone’s idea of maybe a component focus a month. I imagine if we knocked out a bunch of translation bugs or view bugs people would love that |
| griffynh | I’m happy to trial a ‘component’ approach for two months to see how it goes.What should we start with?I can see Transliteration in the Component list, is that the same thing as Translation?https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?text=&assigned=&subm...…]tion+system&issue_tags_op=%3D&issue_tags=Bug+Smash+Initiative |
| smustgrave | I vote TranslationViewsMigrationPending if submaintainers are free |
| pameeela | My only hesitation with multilingual stuff is it’s so freaking complicated. But maybe worth a try! |
| smustgrave | Maybe that’s too eager for a trial run. Views I think would be a good one? |
| griffynh | So should I grab the last updated Views issue from the queue?This filter? https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?text=&assigned=&subm...…]g%20Smash%20Initiative&&order=last_comment_timestamp&sort=asc |
| pameeela | yeah i think so, but really only 179? wow |
| pameeela | should we go by oldest? |
| smustgrave | Do we want to remove the bugsmash tag from the filter and do all bugs? |
| pameeela | ohhh i was wondering how it could be so low, i knew there must be some reason |
| pameeela | yes, i think we should |
| pameeela | 586, that's more like it!! haha |
| pameeela | no tag, by oldest would be https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?project_issue_follow...…]ext=&assigned=&submitted=&issue_tags=&&order=created&sort=asc |
| griffynh | So maybe for the daily :lipstick:, over the next month, I’ll share the oldest Views issue as our triage target? |
1️⃣.2️⃣ @mstrelan “Should we set a time limit on “The One” and move on to “The Next One” when we stop making progress?”
| griffynh | Makes sense to me, its probably a slip on my part and should be done monthly/every other month. |
| griffynh | Should it be https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/221257 that’s the second from the top on this list: https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?project_issue_follow...…]xt=&assigned=&submitted=&issue_tags=&&&order=created&sort=asc |
| quietone | Maybe every other month because they tend to be challenging? |
| pameelea | oh oops, i replied in the other thread |
| pameelea | i still feel that we should do something for this one to progress it, most likely, close it in favour of new issues. |
| pameelea | if something gets to the point where it's a dead end, we should help facilitate progress somehow because if we can't then i don't think it will ever move |
| catch | The next one looks suspiciously like https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C072BF486FN/p1725383998683979?thread_t... i would very much like some starshot/bugsmash combos. |
| pameelea | well i've suggested the summary one needs to be split, there is a genuine bug (i think) that it creates invalid HTML. the trimming tags is not a bug, it works as designed |
| catch | Not sure the test coverage means it's works as designed as such - people probably added tests to cover the existing behaviour. However splitting it sounds good regardless. |
| pameelea | re the starshot combo, just checking you are saying that we should fix the tag trimming in core so we don't need contrib? |
| pameelea | hmm so the invalid HTML might be fixed in CKE5? i can't reproduce.... i will post a comment |
| pameelea | ok, we have a new new one! :woozy_face: https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/221761 |
| catch | Nice! |
| catch | MR up on that one. |
| catch | Opened https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3473323 but I don't really think we need config for cron time limit, so wasn't sure about the other one. |
| catch | https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/295021 was about five down the list, moved to a task and retitled. |
Participants:
quietone, catch, griffynh, pameeela, mstrelan, smustgrave
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