Sector distribution meeting - 2023-10-05 [#3391797]

It's time for the first Sector Distribution Slack meeting!

This meeting:

➤ Is for Sector developers, contributors and anyone interested in the initiative.
➤ Usually happens on the first Thursday of the month at 3pm
➤ Is done over chat in Drupal's Slack.
➤ Happens in threads, which you can follow to be notified of new replies even if you don’t comment in the thread. You may also join the meeting later and participate asynchronously!
➤ Has a public agenda anyone can add to.
➤ *Transcript will be exported and posted* to the agenda issue. For anonymous comments, start with a 👤 emoji. To take a comment or thread off the record, start with a 🚫 emoji.The issue record for today's meeting is:#3391797: Sector distribution meeting - 2023-10-05

0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread below to introduce yourself and tell us why you are joining us.

davesparks	Hi, I’m Dave and I’m project sponsor ; )
davesparks	Dieuwe is away on leave today, so making his apologies
xurizaemon	All good! With the power of async he can catch up later, but I expect he's busy 🙂
Chroid	:wave:
Gareth	hey!
ericgsmith	Hello 🙂
Dieuwe	Belated hello 🙂 catching up on the meeting chatter this morning

1️⃣ Do you have any topics to propose for the meeting today? Feel free to propose them in this thread, and then I will give them their own unique threads for discussion. Conversation moving slow? Go ahead and open your own thread in the next numeric order.

davesparks	I think there is some discussion to be had around upgrading the “legacy” Sector 9. We’ve had a few go rounds on ths at our place, and 2 different approaches (bring as much as possible vs bring as little as possible is how I understand it)
davesparks	I don’t think there is an answer to be hammered out just yet, as practical learnings from those are coming together, but issues and thoughts would be useful
xurizaemon	Added 5️⃣ for that @davesparks - thanks!

2️⃣ What is a reasonable interval for meetings like this? Does monthly feel like a good cadence to kick off with?

davesparks	I think Monthly is about the right balance, we can always up tempo if there is a specific initiative going on
xurizaemon	How do November 2 or November 9 look for the next meeting? I see November 2 is release day for Sector 10 Starter Kit 🙂
xurizaemon	Next meeting issue:[#3391799]Agenda contributions welcome!
davesparks	Perhaps the week after a release day is better for the schedules :innocent:
xurizaemon	:+1:

3️⃣ What times would people prefer? Are all interested parties in NZ timezone?

davesparks	We have had people come thru from Australian timezones, I think this time is workable for people over there as well
xurizaemon	I'm going to propose 3pm First Thursdays, but that's only due to @HeikeT (I think) calendaring a meeting at 2:30 and me taking about half an hour to get going here today :)
xurizaemon	ie I'm open to alternatives!
Dieuwe	I think Thursday afternoons usually work out pretty well for us.
davesparks	Seconded

4️⃣ Tell us about this meeting format?

xurizaemon	This meeting format is one that's been adopted by a number of Drupal initiatives and working groups. It seems reasonable to adopt it for Sector too.
xurizaemon	The Meta Issue I've lifted largely from the Recipes and Distributions Initiative - their meta issue and related meeting issues are at[#3269687]
xurizaemon	For each meeting, we'll create a drupal-org issue that serves to collect the agenda before the meeting, and then preserves the meeting record after the meeting.
xurizaemon	Meetings can be archived using a Chrome plugin ... I'm casting about to find that and document it right now!https://github.com/mdlutz24/drupal-meeting-parserhttps://github.com/drup...(edited)
xurizaemon	Active participants are credited for meeting attendance. This is a nice way to reflect non-code contributions to the community! No, I don't yet know how to make that work ... (edited)
davesparks	Once I got my head around it found it quite easy to follow in practice! Thanks for this!
xurizaemon	Great! I will come back and :record-button: record the meeting after 24H or so to allow for async input.

6️⃣ What's the Sector 10 feature you're most excited for?

Gareth	the new theming approach for sure!
davesparks	Sort by controversial!
xurizaemon	I'm really liking the decision to move to Gin, as I'm liking it on a non-Sector site currently. Much nicer than Claro.
xurizaemon	I think for me, most exciting is moving towards more collab - like here, and with the plan (mentioned in Sector 10 Roadmap) to get the governance roadmap in place. Is there a post to come for that? Is that worth a thread in this meeting? Yes, 8️⃣ . (edited)

7️⃣ What do folks think of moving towards the Recipes and Distributions approach for future Sector - less "Drupal Profile", more "Set of recipes"?

xurizaemon	I really like the idea of making Sector a composable set of features, but I haven't dived deep enough to validate this.I do know there are enough challenges in the existing mechanics of Profiles, and how to extend them, that this is very appealing.
Chroid	There's already been some preliminary investigation into that over here.
xurizaemon	Should we make an issue for that, so it's happening somewhere we can collaborate?
Chroid	Sure! I think it was just waiting on the Recipes stuff to mature a little further.
davesparks	we are provisionally keen in theory, but wary of biting off more than we can chew with 9>10 taking up a fair amount of the thinkering
Gareth	10 has been built with recipes kind of in mind, content types, taxonomies and a bunch of other stuff have been split into their own modules with their own config, with the aim to one day being recipe’able

8️⃣ Sector Governance Roadmap - any updates on this?

xurizaemon	It's OK if not, we're all busy. And maybe that means opportunity for input, if there's a draft about ...
xurizaemon	(But it's as likely I've missed something, so don't be shy correcting me.)
xurizaemon	Is there some way folks can contribute?
davesparks	We’ll note that as an open discussion item!
davesparks	i’m trying to figure outa) what form that would take in practice (looking at what other people do/have done)and b) some aims and goals for that to guide decisions
xurizaemon	Yes! It's a balancing act I'm sure. I don't know what working examples exist already.