Drupal 10 readiness meeting / 27 September 2021 [#3233080]

Meeting will happen in #d10readiness on drupal.slack.com.

Hello and welcome to this Drupal 10 readiness meeting!

This meeting:
➤ Is for core and contributed project developers as well as people who have integrations and services related to core. Site developers who want to stay in the know to keep up-to-date for the easiest Drupal 10 upgrade of their sites are also welcome.
➤ Usually happens every other Monday at 18:00 UTC.
➤ Is done over chat.
➤ Happens in threads, which you can follow to be notified of new replies even if you don’t comment in the thread. You may also join the meeting later and participate asynchronously!
➤ Has a public agenda anyone can add to: `https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3233080`
➤ *Transcript will be exported and posted* to the agenda issue. For anonymous comments, start with a :bust_in_silhouette: emoji. To take a comment or thread off the record, start with a :no_entry_sign: emoji.

0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread below to introduce yourself.

larowlan	lee au :wave:
shaal	Hi :wave:
Björn Brala (bbrala)	Björn, reading ;)
Ilcho Vuchkov (vuil)	Ilcho, Bulgaria EUA bit late… ;)
catch	Nat, even more delayed.

1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.

andypost

AVIF support if 10.x going require PHP 8.1 #3202016: Let GDToolkit support AVIF image format

2️⃣ Symfony 5 vs 6 how is progress?

larowlan	lots of issues being worked on by @daffie and @longwave - many have been moved to D10 because of PHP8 only features (e.g. mixed, static, union typehints)
larowlan	Progress being tracked in #3161889: [META] Symfony 6 compatibility
daffie	Progress on Symfony 6 is good. We have now 4 blocker issues for which we need help. 3 of those issues are about refactoring and need expert help: #3232131: [Symfony 5] Symfony's DebugClassLoader triggers deprecation messages for missing return type hints, where there is no deprecation.
daffie	These 4 issues are blocking the release of the 10.0.x branch with Symfony 6.
Björn Brala (bbrala)	I've been looking at the serializer issue. I'm a little scared of the fix for that.
Björn Brala (bbrala)	I'll try and spend some more time this Friday to see if I can branch the needed classes, but I'm a little sceptical.
daffie	Can we copy code from Symfony and remove the return type hint stuff and use it to base our code on that?
Björn Brala (bbrala)	Sure but I would only want that for jsonapi. Which means there might be conflicts at some point since it could fallback back to the serializer module.
Björn Brala (bbrala)	I can't fully mentally parse the the flow so I need to try some stuff to be sure

3️⃣ PHP 8 vs 8.1

larowlan	@alexpott @andypost @daffie @longwave and @catch have been making great progress here with another batch of issues going in over night.
larowlan	Tracking progress in #3220021: [meta] Ensure compatibility of Drupal 9 with PHP 8.1 (as it evolves)
andypost	This week PHP 8.1.0RC3 will be released (edited)
andypost	at least it should be tagged tomorrow (lots of JIT fixes landed last days) (edited)
andypost	filed few more patches to review)
daffie	Great to hear that this week PHP 8.1RC3 is coming!

4️⃣ jQuery removal Meta

larowlan	A large number of issues being created under this meta #3238306: [META] Where possible, refactor existing jQuery uses to vanillaJS to reduce jQuery footprint where we're using eslint to identify and convert usages to Vanilla JS. Lots of MRs coming in from hooroomoo and Theresa.Grannum spearheading a lot of the work here with mentoring from @bnjmnm
larowlan	nice work @hj (they/them) @Theresa Grannum
hj (they/them)	thank you :slightly_smiling_face:
Theresa Grannum	thanks @larowlan!
larowlan	:+1:

5️⃣ CKEditor 5 news

larowlan	Roadmap to stable is here #3238333: Roadmap to CKEditor 5 stable in Drupal 9
larowlan	More testers needed
larowlan	great testing instructions for using gitpod here from @shaal https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C01N7HQSSFN/p1632589889071700?thread_t...

6️⃣ AVIF support if 10.x going require PHP 8.1 #3202016: Let GDToolkit support AVIF image format via @andypost

andypost	The issue is blocked on detection of supported formats by GD #3116611: Add a requirements check for GD support of allowed image types
andypost	I bet it waiting for usability review
hestenet (he/him)	cc @Ben Morsssss