[Weekly Meeting] 2018/05/14 [#2973337]

Moderated By: drpal

Hello! Welcome to to our weekly JavaScript initiative meeting. It happens every Monday right here in Slack!

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1️⃣ Please introduce yourself if you’re attending today’s meeting!

drpal	Matt @ :space_invader:
lauriii	Lauri @ :flag-th:
love.huria	Love Huria @ :flag-in:
dawehner	Daniel @ :uk:
volkerk	Volker @ :de:
ckrina	Cristina in BCN
webchick	Angie in :canada:
timmillwood	Tim @ :uk: :appnovation:

off topic: does anyone have airbnb with a spare bed? The whole Utrecht seems to be fully booked except few expensive options :smile:

2️⃣ Front End United Sprint! ~2 weeks away!

drpal	Here we are.
webchick	Hi
drpal	:wave:
drpal
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webchick	So has a table for availability which isn’t very well filled in yet. There’s also a spreadsheet at for the overall camp
webchick	Oops, I see I’m duplicating effort :smile:
webchick	I think first order of business is: a) who can be there, when, and what can they contribute?
drpal	@webchick I just throw links out there, no context :slightly_smiling_face:
webchick	Second order of business is b) what’s the “agenda” of the sprint, based on that information?
webchick	The issue has some spitballing but it’s quite old and doesn’t reflect the actual attendee list.
drpal	I will be there.
webchick	Going by it looks like Wed/Thurs we have the most people. Maybe a half-day Tuesday alsp
webchick	We start to lose people on Friday when the conference starts.
webchick	OTOH I think that might be when Dries is available. Need to check with him.
lauriii	I also just booked my flights so that I will be leaving on Friday afternoon
webchick	For attendees (according to the spreadsheeet) we have:
webchick	Sally Young Lauri Eskola Cristina Chumillas Volker Killesreiter Angie Byron Daniel Wehner Matt Grill
drpal	I arrive early Monday AM so I’ll probably be sleepy that day.
webchick	And Dries for some part of that.
lauriii	I’ll arrive around 1pm on Monday
webchick	And @alexpott was also attending Front End United I thought(?)
lauriii	Yes
lauriii	I updated his dates
lauriii	on the Github issue
alexpott	I am!
webchick	Ah great. Let’s kill the table on the GitHub issue and just use the spreadsheet IMO. Then there’s more visibility to other fplks.
dawehner	I think for the actual agenda I would suggest to focus a bit on answering the hard questions we have, like: what can modules do etc.
webchick	@dawehner Cool. Will we have the right people there for that?
dawehner	I'd say so, I see @lauriii in there for example
drpal	@dawehner I think that’s a great idea.
webchick	So @here If you are coming to the Front End United (or planning to participate remotely), please fill out a row at ~125 in
dawehner	One thing I'm wondering: Do we need to buy tickets for the conference even the plan is to sprint?
webchick	Ok great. Cristina is also coming, so we could do some UX stuff as well, if we are so inclined.
webchick	@dawehner I looked into that, and no. However, you do need to buy daily tickets to the co-working space. Sec.
dawehner	Yeah maybe we could do some prototypes of Cristinas amazing ideas!
ckrina	I think Roy is coming too, but not sure which days
dawehner	@webchick Let me update that in the github ticket
webchick
webchick	This is why it’s important to know which days we are sprinting. :slightly_smiling_face:
webchick	is (euro-symbol) 11.95/day
drpal	€
webchick	It seems a bit odd to PAY to sprint, but OTOH the venue is apparently cool and has furnished foods and coffee and stuff
webchick	And other Drupal people will be there as well if we need some cross-collaboration
drpal	Yeah. I wasn’t too thrilled about that.
drpal	:confused:
drpal	Oh well.
dawehner	Oh I don't worry about that. Coworking spaces give you other things for free, like not the worst chairs
webchick	@drpal yeah. ;( OTOH it’s a fraction of the cost of a ticket to the event for those who aren’t going.
drpal	Yep.
webchick	Ok, so Monday seems like a waste of time.
webchick	But Tues=>Friday?
lauriii	my flight leaves at 5pm on Friday
webchick	@lauriii from AMS or?
lauriii	I’ll probably leave around 2pm
webchick	ok cool.
lauriii	from AMS
webchick	@dawehner So going back to your earlier point, Yes! we could totally prototype some UX steuff
dawehner	Tuesday=>Friday++
webchick	And we could also solve complex architecture bits
webchick	or we could do both
webchick	I’m not really in a good position I feel to make a call there.
drpal	@webchick You mean just plan, not actual implementations?
dawehner	@webchick Yeah I was looking at the list and it would be nice for example for @volkerk :wave: to be able to get involved, too
webchick	Yep, they are coming as well. :slightly_smiling_face:
webchick	So for the people coming, what do you want to work on? What are you hoping to get out of the sprint?
webchick	We had talked loosely earlier about solving “hard problems” so that come Dev Days in about a month after, people can get to town on implementation
webchick	I don’t have a good sense tho on what the blockers are atm to “turn a bunch of awesome developers loose on the JS Modernization Initiative’s todo list.”
webchick	Thoughts?
webchick	We could also say “We dunno yet” and work to define that over the next couple of weeks, that’s fine too.
webchick	I just feel like I made that issue back in the day and it’s been mostly crickets :smile:
lauriii	I think most things are listed here
ckrina	Leave some awesome developers for the "Eight" theme :joy:
dawehner	Well, I think when we talk about hard problems we will come up with more actionable items for dev days!
webchick	@drpal Yeah, but IMO that’s WAY too much for a 4 day sprint
webchick	Esp. if we want UX time in there
webchick	So we should pick a “top 3” or “top 5" or something of things we want to try and hash out and/or “demos” we want to be able to do
dawehner	@ckrina I guess one thing we could discuss is: How do we enable an easy way to sync up changes to the new theme into the new admin UI
webchick	Or, you can also tell me, “Webchick, you’re being very silly for trying to get an agenda together ahead of time, let’s just show up and work:
webchick	It’s just helpful to communicate both to each other and to prospective attendees as well as to “outsiders” what to expect.
lauriii	I think it’s a great idea to have a plan! :clap:
ckrina	@dawehner yeah, I think that'd be important to be able to say clearly if this new theme is going to be useful once we have the new JS admin
dawehner	Yeah we should have a sort of dedicated timeslot to talk about each of / / / /
dawehner	Of which I think 13 should have the biggest priority as it fundamentally affects the entire ecosystem
webchick	Cool. And are there like “must have” people at any fo those talks? like “don’t bother talking about this unless FOO is there?”
webchick	Great!
dawehner	13 should have at least a framework manager, IMHO
dawehner	for 11 a clone of gabor would be amazing
webchick	@alexpott do you know your in/out dates and general availability for FEU?
webchick	LOL @ clone of Gábor. :slightly_smiling_face: let me talk to him and see if we can get his remote participation for part of the week
lauriii	@webchick he’ll be there for May 28 - June 3
alexpott	Yes :slightly_smiling_face: I'm there on Monday and I leave Sunday.
webchick	Oh perfect! Sorry I’m behind the times
dawehner	I hope @alexpott is not leaving me alone in the airbn
webchick	@alexpott are you coming for this, or are you splitting your time among lots of different initiatives?
alexpott	I'm coming for this. I don;t think any other initiative has work planned that week.
webchick	ROCK!
webchick	K, sorry, I’m hitting the end of my available time. I’ll update the GitHub issue later with what we discussed here, and maybe we can continue brainstorming either in this thread or in the issue?
dawehner	:+1:
webchick	Thanks so much everyone! :slightly_smiling_face:
love.huria	Hi there. Just one thing, how can we help remotely?
dawehner	@love.huria that is a good question. Right now we mostly talked about many things , which don't have super actionable points. Maybe you could sync with @ckrina who might have some more actionable bits. This would help us in the future, too
dawehner	@love.huria I'll let you know when there is something good!
ckrina	I hope around week the "Eight" theme will start, but until then it's mostly design stuff :slightly_smiling_face:
love.huria	@dawehner Sure, sounds good. Thanks :slightly_smiling_face: @ckrina What’s this eight theme about? (Sorry, kinda new pitching in.)
ckrina	@love.huria np :slightly_smiling_face: it's this:
love.huria	Interesting, Thanks @ckrina :thumbsup: Having a look.
justafish	@webchick @drpal @dmsmidt @ckrina @lauriii I spoke to the FUE team and they’re going to fund the entry to the co-working space for the sprint
justafish	Thank you @MathieuSpil!
ckrina	@MathieuSpil that's great!! :clap:
dawehner	That's vgood
MathieuSpil	Yes! Our accountant is just scared how many people are now going to show up, but I think we can carry that financially :slightly_smiling_face:
yoroy	ooh, great news that is