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Drupal core
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8.1.x-dev
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user interface text
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Created:
7 Jun 2015 at 10:34 UTC
Updated:
24 Dec 2015 at 14:34 UTC
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Comment #1
ifrikComment #2
manjit.singhI dont know what we have to do in this issue queue.. I know this is a very stupid question i asked. But i have checked
They all have different descriptions in a contact module. What we have to do now ?
Comment #3
pguillard commentedI guess the sentence in the extend page :
is more accurate than the one in the structure page :
and I would also add this at the beginning the admin page :
Just my suggestion...
Comment #4
manjit.singhtriggering test bot
Comment #5
ifrikComment #6
luismagr commentedI have reviewed this patch and it applies. Also texts seems to be fine.
Comment #7
shwetaneelsharma commentedupdate_texts_for_contact-2501909-3.patch passes testing. The description seem to be uniform and appropriate now.
Attaching screenshots from all three pages.
Comment #9
pjbaertQuickly rerolled this patch.
Comment #10
ifrikThanks for the patch, but I think the administration page of the contact module needs more work by removing unnecessary text.
There is lots of duplication with the help text on that page.
We can probably reduce it two questions here: what means "select" and why can you not edit/delete the Personal contact form.
Comment #11
pguillard commentedAs of #10, I have at least removed the last two sentences that were redundant.
Comment #12
jhodgdonhttps://groups.drupal.org/node/484788 Apparently this needs to be "rc deadline" because it changes translatable UI text strings
This change or something similar is being done on another issue that is unifying and updating the text shown on the Configure admin page. Probably we can take it out of this patch and in this patch, we can make sure that the rest of hook_help() agrees with the wording chosen in the other issue? See
#2570997: [Meta] Update the module descriptions on the Configuration page and child issues.
Comment #13
jhodgdonThanks for the patch!
I don't think we need this line. We should NOT have things in the page help that just say what is on the page, if it is self-evident.
So I think probably this patch (the part in contact.module) should just be removing text. And the part in contact.links.menu.yml I think is covered by a different issue.
Comment #14
pguillard commentedApplying #12 and #13 suggestions
Comment #15
jhodgdonOK, good... So let's see what was in those two lines... sorry I am doing about 10 things at once today and maybe didn't look at this carefully enough.
So... Here (without the patch) is what the Contact forms structure page says at the top:
These paragraphs were all put there for reasons, to avoid confusion:
- Tell what the 2 types of contact forms are
- Explain why the personal form has no Edit
- Tell what the URL is for the site-wide forms. This is no longer necessary though, since the page shows these URLs directly.
- Suggest making footer menu links and tell about the existing links. We don't really need to do that.
- Suggest using blocks to add text to the page. We don't need to do that.
So... Agreed on the current patch: getting rid of those last two paragraphs is a Good Thing.
We could also probably remove some of the text in that first paragraph. I don't think we need to tell the users that they can manage the fields, since there is a Manage Fields link down there. I also don't really think we need to explain here about the edit.
Really... Maybe we don't need page-level help here at all. Do we? Is the UI clear enough without this explanation? I mean it says right in the table "Personal contact form" ... but maybe that explanation of what the personal contact form is, is helpful.
Ok.
Let's just get this patch in. And it doesn't need to be RC deadline now because it is only removing 2 strings of UI text, not adding or modifying any strings.
Comment #16
Bojhan commentedYup, agree with jhodgdon here - we dont even need that first sentence. We only refer to "other places" when they are highly related but not in the tab navigation.
Comment #17
jhodgdonWell then. Let's get rid of the entire page help in a new patch please?
Comment #18
pguillard commentedHere we go.
@jhodgdon : This new patch just removes help on that page as suggested at #17.
Comment #19
jhodgdonPerfect, thanks!
Comment #20
xjmNice, +1 for removing unhelpful UI text. Thanks!
As a UI change (though a small one), this should be targeted against 8.1.x now per https://www.drupal.org/core/d8-allowed-changes#minor.
Comment #21
alexpottCommitted 396acc1 and pushed to 8.1.x. Thanks!