Move Toolbar mark up into the "page bottom" region

Great to look for both accessibility & mobile. Most overlook the challenges of combining the two.

What are the challenges you see in allowing the tool bar to be above or below the content?

I'd have to talk to a few blind users to see if this would present any problems for them. I suspect it would be fine, but ultimately it depends on the users.

I don't really see this working from an accessibility perspective.

1. Screen-reader users, especially those new to Drupal, may spend some time using the system before even finding out that there is a toolbar. After finding it they need to go to the bottom of the page each time to use it. If A sighted user is interacting w/ a screen-reader user they will say 'The "Content" item in the toolbar at the top of the page'.
2. Keyboard only users have a terrible time tabing through the page (as this will be visually top, but DOM order bottom, unless we adjust tabindex.

On a completely personal note I would 'hate, hate, hate, hate, it'.

Just curious... what if this only happened in a theme-narrow.css for display sizes <= 400px or so? I guess it's the same problem on a cell phone as well.

I don't do a whole lot of mobile browsing, but I suspect that it would be te same. Some screen-readers do provide a navigational keystroke for 'go to bottom of page'. The number of users that know it is another question. I suspect that this exists, and is known about, less with mobile browsers.

@lewisnyman

We could do 'Skip to Toolbar'. Can you please tell me how you would feel about finding / clicking an extra link every time you wished to access the toolbar?

Your suggestion would help somewhat with the discoverability issue.

One of these days I'm going to have to watch you navigate on a smart phone Everett. It wouldn't be in a logical order, but if it's done right having a logically structured toolbar along the bottom may not be such a bad thing.

I do think that the practice is changing. It's more common for folks to find toolbars and other navigation along the bottom on a mobile site. For many users it's the logical place to put it since it's closer to your fingers. However, we're again in an area where I don't know if there is a best practice that works best for accessibility & usability.

I think it's an interesting challenge as I can see both sides here.

There certainly aren't any best practices for this. Time and testing with real users of AT needs to happen in order for us to generate data from which we can inform decisions.

Need usability study for AT users.

I placed the toolbar in the bottom region in #1137920: Fix toolbar on small screen sizes and redesign toolbar for desktop before having read this issue. It seems we'll want to move it back to the top region? I don't see a consensus yet. Is this something we could test at BADCamp?

Bumping this to D9. Hopefully we'll have some documentation as to where is the best place to put this by default in the future.