0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread to introduce yourself. We’ll keep the meeting open for 24 hours to allow for all timezones.

Luke Stewart luke.stewart is here
griffynh :wave: Hola Griff
mohit_aghera Mohit, India :wave:
dcam Hello all.
dww dww in the Hawaiian Kingdom (ancestral and current home of the Kanaka Maoli).

1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.

griffynh I’ve got a TODO for updating the daily target
griffynh I want to discuss this initiative, it’s been very quiet for about 12 months, with really the daily targets and some very light engagement on the monthly meetings.The BSI was started in May 2020 - https://www.drupal.org/community-initiatives/bug-smash-initiative - are we still meeting our goals and the purpose of this work? Or is it noise?I’ll start a thread and put this and further thoughts there.

2️⃣.1️⃣ Wins - what wins have you had since the last meeting? Share your successes!

dww https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C079NQPQUEN/p1767924503313529 was a bugsmashing win for myself. I was involved in every commit for 10.6.2: 2 issues were smashed bugs, the other two were security hardening tasks.

2️⃣.2️⃣ Thanks - a space for callouts to other contributors who’ve helped you.

2️⃣.3️⃣ Blockers - what’s getting in the way of your issues / goals

3️⃣ Core bug statistics - current state of open bugs

quietone All Bugs
Critical 77
Major 808
Normal 4,595
Minor 302
Total 5,782

Bugs Tagged Bug Smash
Critical 15
Major 236
Normal 1,114
Minor 108
Total 1,473

All issues tagged Bug Smash, all versions
Open 1,473
Closed 4,349
Total 5,822

quietone All issues tagged Bug Smash, all versions. all projects
Open 1,968
Closed 5,170
Total 7,138
dww We're still helping. :blush:

4️⃣  I’ll update the daily message to use last updated - as per last meeting

5️⃣  Discussion on the Bug Smash Initiative - coming up on 6 years

griffynh I started my thoughts here: https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C014QES6HSQ/p1768270440965459?thread_t...
griffynh In short, I feel like the enthusiasm has died down substantially, as the focus of the community was diverted to Starshot in 2024 the engagement with BS slowed down - which is of course fine.But do we see BSI coming back? Are we making a dent in the bugs in core etc. etc.According to our Goals and Progress page: https://www.drupal.org/community-initiatives/bug-smash-initiative/goals we’ve met and exceeded our targets across all priority type. (edited)
griffynh Do we use this opportunity - coming up on the 6 year anniversay - to review the initiative, either refocus things or potentially even shut it down?
griffynh Very open to feedback.
Luke Stewart I support examining and refocusing. I do think there is a need for some sort of focus somewhere in the community on reviewing the status of old issues and closing them off or attempting to get them to a state where more engagement can happen.
mstrelan Worth pointing out the #stale-issue-cleanup channel / initiative
catch We've definitely lost momentum, but it also feels like total bug numbers (not sure about years) are staying around flat, which is a lot better than when the initiative started, they'd been permanently going up more or less forever before we started. And staying flat represents a lot of bugs being fixed.I personally think the biggest barrier to more momentum is the state of the RTBC queue, there are 54 RTBC bugs at the moment, nearly 150 RTBC issues overall. Any bug report that actually gets fixed has to go through that bottleneck. I had a quick look some of the least-recently-updated bug reports and found a couple of needs more info / mark as duplicated etc. but we did a lot of that at the beginning so they are not as easy to find.https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?text=&assigned=&submitted=&proje[…]s%5B%5D=1&version%5B%5D=any_11.&issue_tags_op=%3D&issue_tags=
quietone We have met the goals of the initiative, so good on us!
quietone For me, the new goal would be to triage all core bugs because the triage is where, I think, we have made the most impact. There are 4,304 bugs not tagged Bug Smash. So that goal is changed from number fixed to number tagged.
quietone BTW, Since Nov 2022 till now the percentage of bugs has gone from 42.63% to  36.73%. There was a 5% drop in April of this year. I guess from the stale issue cleanup?
Overall the behavior here has been to 'dip in when one has time' which works for triage.
On the other hand. we have shown that this style of working on issues does make an impact. We could expand to cover all types of issues.

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