Meeting of the Experience Builder Initiative 2025-05-01 [#3522727]

:wave: Hello welcome to the fortnightly meeting of the Experience Builder initiative.

megha sharma

Hi :wave:

1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread, and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.

smustgrave	Going to sound negative and not sure if it should be a thread, but kinda joked about this at DrupalCon but is there any concern that XB will end up like layout builder?
penyaskito	in terms of? not being defensive, just curious. I don't necessarily take "like LB" as pejorative.Feel free to PM if it's kinda offtopic
Kristen Pol (she/her)	We may need a new subtopic "soon" for AI stuff but that's still getting sorted on who's doing what so it can probably wait until next meeting
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Given it seems like there's not usually anything added in the subtopic 1+2+3, should the thread be reconsidered? Who's using those buckets?
smustgrave	They’ve been the default since I stared helping
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Understood but there doesn’t seem like there’s much engagement but maybe that’s a general thing
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Perhaps a TLDR state of the nation would be good each time coming from @wimleers (he/him) ? It can be a quick summary of his blog posts?

2️⃣ 1️⃣ Subtopic 1: Theme builder (edited)

2️⃣ 2️⃣ Subtopic 2: Page builder (edited)

2️⃣ 3️⃣ Subtopic 3: Data model/persistence layer (edited)

2️⃣ 4️⃣ Subtopic 4: Layout Builder and Paragraphs (edited)

smustgrave	Very interested in this part. I use to sales pitch layout builder to clients and now I try and talk them out of it because XB is coming (and LB is buggy)
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Per @larowlan, there has been some progress but I've been focused on other things and need to catch up with Lee and @DanielVeza
Kristen Pol (she/her)	https://www.drupal.org/project/experience_builder/issues/3483307
Kristen Pol (she/her)	@DanielVeza can you give a quick status here?
DanielVeza	Made good progress on the start of that. Got stuck on converting Layout regions into slots to place blocks in. . Once I've cracked that the rest should be pretty smooth and I'l need to add some tests. Hoping to get some time on it next week to wrap it up
DanielVeza	If I get a chance today I'll push up my WIP code. Still a bit messy
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Awesome :tada: thanks for the update :pray:
Kristen Pol (she/her)	@berdir have you been able to think or play around with Paragraphs integration anymore?#3517216: New `ComponentSource`: `ParagraphType`, to allow for a Paragraphs-to-Canvas migration
berdir	not yet, focused on core atm, 11.2 alpha is close, been working on getting things ready for that
Kristen Pol (she/her)	No worries… do you think it’s something someone else might know enough to play with?
berdir	I think it's generally not rocket science. the next step is figuring out a way on how to store and reference paragraphs, I've been thinking about that for a bit and have an idea. once I have a proof of concept of that, I think pushing it further is then more about the experience builder side than paragraphs, so shouldn't need much paragraphs specific knowledge
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Sounds good :+1:
(anonymous)	Got stuck on converting Layout regions into slots to place blocks in.I think there's a little danger there. Presently, layout builder supports dynamic regions. Experience builder doesn't support dynamic slots last I was aware. (rather, SDC doesn't support dynamic slots?) (edited)
Kristen Pol (she/her)	I'll let @larowlan chime in on this one as he's closest to it besides Wim+Lauri afaik
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Note also there is what is supported now and what will be supported by Vienna
berdir	I was wondering about that too. how would you manage something like a container paragraph type with an unlimited paragraph field
(anonymous)	- ^ the SDC consensus so far is to use one slot but to render an array of components inside (which isn't supported by the XB data model yet)
Kristen Pol (she/her)	I know about arrays for props but not slots… do you have the issue?#3467870: Support `{type: array, …}` prop shapes
(anonymous)	last I was aware, Pierre was against the notion of supporting arrays of slots.
Kristen Pol (she/her)	That sounds familiar