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4 Jan 2024 at 18:48 UTC
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17 Apr 2025 at 01:44 UTC
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Assuming the Drupal Association/board green light a Drupal Innovation Fund (mentioned in @alexmoreno's post), I'm assuming we'd need a landing page where DA/Drupal supporters can sponsor (and receive credit for) the fund. If a Fund (see this description) under the same name was created on Open Collective, funds could be allocated via bank transfer to a matching fund for #3376257: Innovation Funding Rounds: Leveraging Democratic Funding.
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gusaus commentedUpdated to align with the goal of creating a dedicated innovation fund.
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gusaus commentedUpdating title to reflect primary goal/task of creating a fund on Open Collective
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teknorahUpdated title to include [Proposal] prefix and set component to Feature request to make more clear where we are at with this one.
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gusaus commentedThis task was created before the Innovation Fund was announced as a way to fund contributions to Starshot (including the session Dries led on Participation, Funding, and Governance). While we have been talking about creating/leveraging an Open Collective Fund for other use cases, Starshot creates the need and opportunity to do the following:
- Create a Drupal Innovation Fund on Open Collective (see https://blog.opencollective.com/funds-for-open-source/)
- Create a Starshot project on https://opencollective.com/drupal (see #3377002: Leverage top-level Drupal collective (Open Collective))
By doing the following the Drupal Association could continue to leverage their current fundraising and crediting system as funds could be allocated (to the Fund on Open Collective) via bank transfer or some other way. By using Open Source Collective as fiscal host/sponsor, the DA would 'not' be solely responsible for allocating funds to related projects and initiatives (and their contributors). For example, if we set up 'projects' for Starshot, Automatic Updates, Project Browser, Recipes, etc on https://opencollective.com/drupal funds could be allocated from the Drupal Innovation Fund to Starshot and/or any of the related projects via collective to collective transfer.
If we created projects on the Fund for each use case (Starshot, Innovation Funding rounds (see #3376257: Innovation Funding Rounds: Leveraging Democratic Funding), the DA would have even more control and flexibility in terms of allocating funds.
By leveraging, Open Source Collective as the fiscal sponsor for both the Fund and Drupal collective (OSC is currently the fiscal sponsor for https://opencollective.com/drupal), we could augment the DA's current system/capacity by providing a wide range of additional services and benefits for contributors (including potential full-time employment).
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mindaugasd commentedI think Starshot is a type of project which requires a lot of time and dedication from a lot of people, more than any theoretical fund could fund, and community is already mobilized for this effort. While volunteering on Starshot, I think its not the time focus on money or spend additional resources on additional bureaucracy and financing layer on top of it, there is only 204 days left for the deadline.
To make things clear, financing questions are important to solve, just I guess starshot is out of scope for this. Starshot is strategic initiative which have a lot of mobilization, volunteering and a lot of investment (by companies financing their employees).
While I think "Innovation hub" project is to strengthen many community initiatives which don't receive as much support, but important to help where strategic initiatives may not always cover.
Comment #16
gusaus commentedA Drupal Innovation Fund isn't theoretical. It's something Dries mentioned multiple times during this Starshot session Participation, Funding, and Governance.
Neither is an Open Collective Fund (https://docs.opencollective.com/help/financial-contributors/organization...). It's a mechanism that Open Collective has provided for several years and something the Drupal Association (specifically @hestenet) has been exploring over the past year.
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mindaugasd commentedI should watch. I wonder who will be financiers, if Drupal organizations are already stretched simply by funding their own workers while funding others was never popular.
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gusaus commented@gábor-hojtsy provided some additional context (around funding Starshot) a couple weeks ago in Slack but I'm not sure what's been discussed or decided since.
Considering there's a component set up for Funding, it seems like https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/starshot would be a good place to centralize (plans and processes to funding Starshot).
Comment #19
teknorah@gusaus It is my understanding that the DA has already established a funding mechanism outside of Open Collective. Also, it appears that the new Fundraising Manager (staff) role's purpose is to manage fundraising activities. Once filled, it may make sense to discuss with that person to see if they have thoughts around continuing to leverage Open Collective.
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gusaus commentedCircling back as we've been discussing how companies in the Drupal ecosystem might benefit from participating in the Open Source Pledge (osspledge.com), an initiative encourages companies to contribute a minimum of $2,000 per full-time developer per year to open-source projects. These contributions could take the form of new or existing donations to the Drupal Association .
With a major promotional campaign in the works (https://github.com/opensourcepledge/osspledge.com/issues/11) this could provide great exposure for Drupal and its supporting companies in the broader open-source ecosystem.
Referencing here as leadership from Open Collective and Open Source Collective (the fiscal sponsor for the Drupal collective) are discussing how they can leverage Funds as a way to aggregate pledges interested in supporting ecosystems (like Drupal).
Considering there's interest from Open Collective and OSS Pledge in including and promoting Drupal (and Drupal companies) in the inaugural campaign, I think a Drupal Innovation Fund on OC could be an entry point for participation.
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gusaus commentedFollowing up to address recent concerns regarding the use of an Open Collective Fund for the Drupal Association’s Innovation Fund. The Open Collective Fund model is an efficient and transparent way for the DA to manage and distribute funds without administrative burden, complementing the DA’s current fundraising and crediting systems.
Key benefits include:
Moreover, by inviting knowledgeable community members to help administer the Innovation Fund, we create a collaborative, shared responsibility model that aligns with the DA’s goals and resource needs. This approach allows the DA to support open-source initiatives sustainably, with OSC handling fiscal and logistical details.
Comment #23
gusaus commentedIf the Drupal Association (DA) isn’t interested in creating the Innovation Fund directly, we could set it up as a “Drupal Innovation”, “Drupal Innovation Fund”, or "Drupal" project within FundOSS on Open Collective, which is itself a Fund with Open Source Collective (OSC) as the fiscal host.
This approach would provide the same operational benefits as a DA-created fund, with OSC handling all fiscal responsibilities and administration. FundOSS would serve as the primary project hub, requiring only approval from the DA and other FundOSS admins to proceed. By partnering with FundOSS and OSC, the Innovation Fund could support Drupal projects with minimal additional demands on the DA.
Comment #24
hestenetThis has been raised to the provisional new DA Innovation Working Group lead for input and consideration - but the current thinking is that it doesn't necessarily add value for the DA itself - as we already have tools and process for fundraising in more traditional ways. Folks are not convinced that it would really increase the overall engagement in fundraising, but possibly just create a confusing landscape of where to do fundraising.
This might be better served with an experimental, community organized kick-off to see if it has legs.
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hestenetThat isn't necessarily a final opinion btw - just the initial feedback I received, will circle back if I hear more.
Comment #26
gusaus commented@hestenet Thanks again for the update and for our continued Slack discussions. I wanted to share a couple more thoughts and ideas after considering all the feedback:
First, I want to clarify (again) that we’re not proposing the DA:
If the DA is currently managing an Innovation Fund through its own tools and processes, we could avoid potential confusion by not creating a fund with the same name. Instead, we could enable the community to manage the following:
In summary, these recommendations present a complementary, community-driven approach that aligns with DA’s mission without conflicting with its core processes. Empowering the community to manage these initiatives through FundOSS or the Drupal collective on Open Collective would broaden Drupal’s funding options, opening new engagement opportunities within Open Collective's extensive open source ecosystem and reinforcing the DA’s long-term strategic goals.
Comment #27
gusaus commentedJust a quick update based on recent developments and conversations:
Since @hestenet’s last update, Ecosyste.ms Funds officially launched as a new open source platform for funding software ecosystems. Created by team members behind Open Collective and Open Source Collective, the platform automatically allocates funding to critical projects without requiring each organization to manually administer funds.
Given the Drupal Association’s ongoing deliberations around if and how to manage an Open Collective fund, Ecosyste.ms offers a compelling alternative: a way to collect and distribute funds transparently, without requiring the DA to handle financial operations or directly manage allocations.
Additionally, if the DA is already managing an Innovation Fund through its internal tools and processes, it may make more sense to associate the fund with another community-facing initiative focused on growing contributions and sustaining the ecosystem—such as a "Drupal Contribution Fund" or "Drupal Community Fund."
We would still need input and involvement from the DA and the Innovation Working Group to:
Looking forward to input from @hestenet so we can determine the best path forward.