The 2026 Drupal Business Survey is open. Your response will help shape the future of the Drupal business ecosystem.Meeting will happen in #d10readiness on drupal.slack.com.
Hello and welcome to this Drupal 10 readiness meeting!
This meeting:
➤ Is for core and contributed project developers as well as people who have integrations and services related to core. Site developers who want to stay in the know to keep up-to-date for the easiest Drupal 10 upgrade of their sites are also welcome.
➤ Now happens every Monday at 18:00 UTC.
➤ Is done over chat.
➤ Happens in threads, which you can follow to be notified of new replies even if you don’t comment in the thread. You may also join the meeting later and participate asynchronously!
➤ Has a public agenda anyone can add to: `https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3322975`
➤ *Transcript will be exported and posted* to the agenda issue. For anonymous comments, start with a :bust_in_silhouette: emoji. To take a comment or thread off the record, start with a :no_entry_sign: emoji.0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread below to introduce yourself.
| andypost | Andy, contributor |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Gábor, Drupal 10 coordinator |
| hestenet (he/him) | Tim from the DA :wave::skin-tone-3: |
| Spokje | Frank, Netherlands |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Kristen, California, catching up |
| quietone | Hi |
| longwave | Dave, UK |
| wimleers (he/him) | :wave: Wim, Belgium, very late |
1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.
| rkoller | i would like to bring up a potential problem on a documentation page and change record (https://www.drupal.org/node/3269885) in the context of the isolation level requirements for D9.5+ MariaDB/Mysql. the preferred way setting the global database variable isn’t persistent across server reboots. (see #3308909: Show the three methods to change the transaction isolation level on "Setting the MySQL transaction isolation level") (edited) |
| Björn Brala (bbrala) | This triggers me, I know we have been using a patch for ages for that. Was wondering which that was and found this: https://www.drupal.org/node/1650930 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | How should we respectfully ask if a contributed project maintainer will give issue credit to the people who tested the bot issues? (edited) |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | I added that one ^ |
2️⃣ A Drupal 10 RC2 is expected soon.
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | According to #3304303: Drupal 10.0.0 requirements, the rc2 blcokers are https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search?issue_tags=Drupal%2010%20rc... — however all of those are resolved. Should we use a different tag/list or is this correct? |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | For example I think we would have an RC2 release notes issue 🙂 (edited) |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | @catch, @xjm or @longwave may know 🙂 |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | For example, #3304303: Drupal 10.0.0 requirements needs updating to not say the regular RC blocker tag blocks RC2. |
| andypost | checked children of #3179048: [meta] Remove dead code/unneeded compatibility layers now that PHP 8.1 is required (from should have list) and looks there's nothing to fix for 10.0 |
| longwave | I think we should wait for Symfony 6.2.0 final before we do rc2 (should be in the next 48 hours) |
| catch | @longwave is that because 30th is end of the month or do you have extra info? |
| longwave | No extra info, just looking at past Symfony releases |
| catch | Seems likely and worth waiting for. |
| andypost | #3324215: Upgrade composer/pcre to 3.1.0 could be commited before SF |
| quietone | Here is the RC2 release note issue, #3324243: Draft release notes for 10.0.0-rc2 |
| wimleers (he/him) | Looks like all things CKE5 are good to go, no more issues needing to land during RC! :+1: :blush: |
3️⃣ Remaining Drupal 10 stable requirements are tagged “Drupal 10 stable release blocker”, let’s discuss in sub-threads
3️⃣ . 1️⃣ Update to stable Symfony 6.2
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Issue at #3319426: Update to a stable Symfony 6.2 release |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | An RC1 of Symfony 6.2 is available now, but not a stable yet. Since we expect stable this month, it should be imminent 🙂 |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Actually RC2 was just released an hour ago :open_mouth: https://twitter.com/fabpot/status/1597304350124433408 |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Should we update core or did the loosening of the dependency setup make that moot? |
| Spokje | #3324213: upgrade Symfony dependencies to RC2 |
| andypost | I bet it needs coordination with #3322989: Update PHP dependencies for Drupal 10.0.0 |
3️⃣ . 2️⃣ Update backend dependencies
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Issue at #3322989: Update PHP dependencies for Drupal 10.0.0, should be done before RC2 actually (edited) |
3️⃣ . 3️⃣ Update JS dependencies
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Issue at #3258933: [meta] Update JavaScript dependencies for Drupal 10 |
| Spokje | Problems at t' mill, Sir![#3323988]New Nightwatch needs new Selenium driver and makes all but one nightwatch tests fail currently. |
| Spokje | Smart people are looking into if we can make the major version jump on Shepherd.js or we should not include that in 10.0.0[#3323834] |
3️⃣ . 4️⃣ Update UPDATE.txt
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Issue at #3266004: Update UPDATE.txt for Drupal 10, @quietone has been looking into this one |
| quietone | This is now updated for Drupal 10 and ready for review. |
| quietone | The links are updated etc. There is a new doc page for Updating from Drupal 9 to Drupal 10 which needs work. |
| quietone | xjm wanted to make the doc page generic and I agree but as I worked on it I went with making a page specific for D9 to D10. That allows us to mention any thing different about this upgrade. But the overall intention, is that the docs page is an overview and links to other pages for details. |
| quietone | Completed some more work. There is now a generic upgrade page . |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | There are definitely specific things about the 9 to 10 path :) |
3️⃣ . 5️⃣ Any other blockers missed above (not yet tagged)?
4️⃣ Isolation level requirements in Drupal 9.5 + MySQL
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Raised by @rkoller |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Issue at #3308909: Show the three methods to change the transaction isolation level on "Setting the MySQL transaction isolation level" |
5️⃣ Parties! Drupal 10 is planned to be released in 16 days!
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | All confirmed parties are listed right under the map in https://www.drupal.org/community/events |
| andypost | is there a guide how to add the event to this list? |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | https://www.drupal.org/community/events/adding-events |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | specifically to get into this list, include “Drupal 10” in the title 🙂 |
| andypost | Thank you! |
| drumm | And “party” in the title as well |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Thanks for adding the dedicated list :+1: |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | ah that too (adding party) 🙂 (edited) |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | that said I also reached out to Mike Miles about the Boston meetup, which previously looked like a party but it may be not? (edited) |
6️⃣ How should we respectfully ask if a contributed project maintainer will give issue credit to the people who tested the bot issues?
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Adding myself since we are past the synchronous time |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | Do you mean coming up with a comment template? |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | No... though maybe that would be nice for later |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | I saw some issues that were marked fixed but people who tested didn't get issue credit |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | We are encouraging people to test these and I don't want them to be discouraged by this |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | I was thinking about just using the maintainer's contact form |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | since there were at least a couple issues fixed by the same person |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | but wondering if anything has general thoughts about this |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | gotta go to class but will check tonight, thanks |
| Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) | I think a comment template would be good, some projects have multiple maintainers. |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | Where should it be documented? |
| cmlara | Do any of these contributions possibly fall into the “may not have really pushed the issue to resolution” category ?Examples being those who provided the same data as a poster before them, or those who just installed the patch and showed installed screenshots but didn’t provide data of it truly working or worse confirmed it working when simple testing by others indicates it does not? |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) | They were properly tested and I think deserve credit |
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