Drupal 10 readiness meeting / 14 November 2022 [#3321283]

Meeting will happen in #d10readiness on drupal.slack.com.

Hello and welcome to this Drupal 10 readiness meeting!

This meeting:
➤ Is for core and contributed project developers as well as people who have integrations and services related to core. Site developers who want to stay in the know to keep up-to-date for the easiest Drupal 10 upgrade of their sites are also welcome.
➤ Now happens every Monday at 18:00 UTC.
➤ Is done over chat.
➤ Happens in threads, which you can follow to be notified of new replies even if you don’t comment in the thread. You may also join the meeting later and participate asynchronously!
➤ Has a public agenda anyone can add to: `https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3321283`
➤ *Transcript will be exported and posted* to the agenda issue. For anonymous comments, start with a :bust_in_silhouette: emoji. To take a comment or thread off the record, start with a :no_entry_sign: emoji.

0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread below to introduce yourself.

hestenet (he/him)	Tim from the DA, saying hello :wave::skin-tone-3:
mherchel	:wave:
dan2k3k4	:wave: Dan in Zurich
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Kristen, California (edited)
andypost	Andy, contributor
FeyP	:wave:
longwave	:wave: Dave, UK
larowlan	:wave: Lee, Central Queensland
quietone	Hi, Aotearoa/NZ
gambry	Gab, Italy.
shaal	:wave: Ofer Shaal, showing up a day later...

1️⃣ Do you have suggested topics you are looking to discuss? Post in this thread and we’ll open threads for them as appropriate.

dan2k3k4	Not specifically a topic but PHP 8.2 GA got pushed back to 8th December. Shouldn't be a blocker for anyone who wants to launch D10 with PHP 8.2 on the Drupal 10 release dayhttps://twitter.com/official_php/status/1592231229977284608
dan2k3k4	Drupal 10 launch parties :grin:
FeyP	Let's talk about the upcoming Drupal 10 Global Porting Day later this week one more time, there are still some slots where we could use some mentors: https://www.drupal.org/community/events/drupal-10-global-porting-day-nov... (edited)

2️⃣ Drupal 10 RC1 is this week! I’ll open subthreads to discuss last minute tasks.

2️⃣ .1️⃣ Update dependencies for Drupal 9.5

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Topic proposed by @catch
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Issue at #3317873: Update PHP dependencies for Drupal 9.5#comment-14785028, needs review
andypost	add newer patch as one of deps got 2 patch releases last 4 hours (edited)

2️⃣ . 2️⃣ Update to Symfony 6.2 RC or update drupal/recommended-project creation and testMinimumStabilityStrictness() to allow minimum-stability to be less stable than core’s stability

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Raised by @catch, issue at #3319794: Update to Symfony 6.2 RC or update drupal/recommended-project creation and testMinimumStabilityStrictness() to allow minimum-stability to be less stable than core's stability
andypost	patch looks nice but it needs one more follow-up to remove version check when SF got stable

2️⃣ . 3️⃣ Draft release notes for RC1

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Raised by @catch
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Issue at #3319976: Draft release notes for 10.0.0-rc1
longwave	Going to spend some time on this tomorrow

3️⃣ Drupal 10 Global Porting Days later this week! Need more mentors, are you joining? (edited)

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Raised by @FeyP
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	See https://www.drupal.org/community/events/drupal-10-global-porting-day-nov...
FeyP	We still need help with these time windows...18 Nov 6am to 10am UTC / 18 Nov 7am to 11am CET / 18 Nov 11:30am to 3:30pm Indian / 18 Nov 5pm to 9pm AEDT18 Nov 8am to 4pm Pacific / 18 Nov 11am to 7pm Eastern / 18 Nov 4pm to 12am UTC / 18 Nov 5pm to 1am CET / 18 Nov 9:30pm to 5:30am Indian19 Nov 9am to 6pm Pacific / 19 Nov 12pm to 9pm Eastern / 19 Nov 5pm to 2am UTC / 19 Nov 6pm to 3am CET / 19 Nov 10:30pm to 7:30am Indian
FeyP	Sign up here!
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Thank you!
gambry	Together with mentoring, we need massive promotion!Possible messages (link and day(s) are already above):Join the 3rd Drupal 10 Global porting day. This is the last chance to get prepared for D10 readiness, before starting to chase it.Drupal 10 will be released in less than a month? Are you ready for it? The perfect dojo is the next Drupal 10 porting day.Is your project Drupal 10 compatible? Find it out at the next Drupal 10 porting day.
gambry	@Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) when does the compatibility report scan run?It would be nice for the numbers to be up-to-date before the porting day event.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	@gambry it ran last 2 days ago, working on processing that and getting it on the site
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	here are the historic runs https://git.drupalcode.org/project/project_analysis/-/commits/results/
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	the data is super raw there and we have a processing step that involves some human spot checking since sometimes it fails in ways its best to interject as a human
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	ok pulled in the latest data but we still have aggressive caching, see https://dev.acquia.com/drupal10/deprecation_status/charts?boo for current data
gambry	Yes, sorry I meant processing the reports. Thanks!
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	@Yash Rode figured out why cache clearing was broken and now it looks up to date for me as anonymous as well
gambry	eureka (1 MB)https://media2.giphy.com/media/pslmyy93fH2JboH8qB/giphy.gif?cid=6104955e... using /giphy \| GIF by Freek Vonk

4️⃣ PHP 8.2 stable is pushed to 8th December, the week before Drupal 10

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Raised by @dan2k3k4, see https://twitter.com/official_php/status/1592231229977284608
andypost	2 weeks of delay should not be critical but #3314632: upgrade phpspec/prophecy to 1.16.0 to support PHP 8.2 is still critical for contrib testing

5️⃣ Drupal 10 launch parties in person and online!

Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Raised by @dan2k3k4
dan2k3k4	So we're planning something :sweat_smile: more details soon but if anyone is interested in helping out with organisation, short-lighting talks, or moderating a Zoom room, let me know!
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Based on https://www.drupal.org/community/events at least the following are happening in personBostonErie, PA, USAMelbourneBrisbaneUtrecht(?)GhentStockholm
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I believe there is one hosted in Budapest too but that is not yet submitted
andypost	curious if there was any call to action? I mean all other major releases has promotion for offline celebration
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	The Drupal Association sent out an email “One month until Drupal 10 is expected to be released” today which has this second paragraph:Are you hosting a Drupal 10 launch party? Share it with the rest of the community by adding it to the community events page on Drupal.org under ‘Local Meet-ups’! The Community Events page is a great way to share your event with local Drupal users in your community.I don’t exactly know who exactly got this, but I assume it was sent far and wide 🙂
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I tweeted this almost two weeks ago too https://twitter.com/gaborhojtsy/status/1587811927341862915 🙂 and it got some distribution (24 RTs, 75 likes), but that is not particularly official :smile:
andypost	Thank you! Missed both(
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	DA also just tweeted about it at https://twitter.com/drupalassoc/status/1592231116601188353?t=OpE00Q_QuZp... (after they posted as a blog post too)
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	This also has a party organizer call to action.
Kristen Pol (she/her)	@dan2k3k4 you planning for in-person or remote?
dan2k3k4	Remote, or potentially hybrid
Kristen Pol (she/her)	Very cool :+1:
dan2k3k4	https://twitter.com/mikeherchel/status/1592508437237469184?t=kqtp_e7VQQL... Pol (she/her) this is it :sweat_smile:
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I think the Drupal 10 release countdown to the minute is misleading. There is no guarantees that Drupal 10 will be released in a specific minute.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	December 14 lasts for 40 hours considering all timezones ;)
dan2k3k4	@mherchel is aware. We'll perhaps adjust, although the countdown would be to the start of the party.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	That's not what the text says thus misleading the community.
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	And putting undue pressure on the comitters
mherchel	yeah, Jen just gave a new design this am. I'll update the site later today
mherchel	I have all the things
mherchel	so, kinda busy atm
mherchel	New design is this, if anyone wants to do a PR in the meantime
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	It still prominently says "countdown to Drupal 10: a countdown" though? Can it say "countdown to Drupal 10 launch party" instead? (edited)
mherchel	i mean it could... but... the celebration is for the countdown to Drupal 10
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I can see the small print only when I zoom in
mherchel	note that there's also an FAQ item
mherchel	maybe ditch the timer :man-shrugging:
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	I think the timer is fun as long as it's not explain in small print that it is not actually counting down to what the big title says ;)
mherchel	Maybe we should change the title?
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C014CT1CN1M/p1668523304249419?thread_t...
mherchel	i mean remove the word countdown from the title
mherchel	something like "Drupal 10 launch party"
mherchel	anyway, I'm flooded with work and things to do atm. I gotta concentrate on that
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Yeah it could also be "Drupal 10 launch party in..." followed by the countdown
mherchel	thats a great idea IMO
mherchel	gets back to work
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Or "Worldwide launch party in..." to be more bold ;)
mherchel	galactic
mherchel	Universal
mherchel	or...
mherchel	OMNICHANNEL :laughing:
dan2k3k4	I pushed a commit:https://github.com/mherchel/drupal10party.com/commit/4a38353681eb350c817...
dan2k3k4	It can be re-worded still :sweat_smile: ^ but just wanted to appease Gabor :stuck_out_tongue:
Gábor Hojtsy (he/him)	Thanks!