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Original issue: http://drupal.org/node/537828
Added some more info on moderation and permissions.
Comment | File | Size | Author |
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#17 | help_comment7.patch | 3.85 KB | arianek |
#15 | help_comment6.patch | 3.84 KB | arianek |
#13 | help_comment5.patch | 3.83 KB | arianek |
#13 | help_comment_after5.png | 92.68 KB | arianek |
#9 | help_comment4.patch | 4.33 KB | arianek |
Comments
Comment #1
Shai CreditAttribution: Shai commentedNice additions. A couple of comments,
I think the "About" section should have your first sentence. And then the rest of that paragraph should go under the "Uses," maybe with the dt, "Create comments." It's awkward that the dts under the "Uses" section, and especially the permissions one, are not really "uses." They relate to how you use comments, but not to their purpose, which the word "Uses" connotes. So I think it is important the first item in that list really be related to what you would use the module for.
Next point:
I think writing in the active rather than the passive would be better. And since the second sentence here pretty much has to be passive, it would be nice to make the first active. So the first sentence might come out to be:
As for the second sentence, maybe "logged in" instead of "authenticated." And also, it isn't directly related to permissions. It seems like it should have its own dt. So the dt might be, "Comments editable" with the dd being, "When a comment has no replies, it remains editable by its author, as long as the user is logged in.
Finally, maybe change second to last sentence to, ".... until a user who has permission to administer comments" or "who has Administer Comments permission." "... has Administer Comments" on its own sounds funny.
Shai
Comment #2
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedGreat feedback, thanks - let me know if this seems better (made some changes based on your comments, but didn't do the exact edits listed above), and make sure I didn't add any new typos if you have a chance to re-review. ;-)
Thanks!
Comment #3
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedComment #4
JuliaKM CreditAttribution: JuliaKM commentedThis is already so much easier to read! Here's a few suggestions:
1. I think that "For more information, see the online handbook entry for Comment module." should go at the bottom of the page to be more consistent with the other help pages. For comparison, look at the Filter or Taxonomy help pages.
2. Looks like you left off the array with the url link to content type. Here's your code:
It should be:
3. I find "they" in this sentence is a bit confusing.
Can you change "they" to "the author"?
4. I think that the Drupal standard to write t(' instead of t(". The strings that start with "Each content type can have its own" and "Comments from users who do not have the" both use double quotes.
Comment #5
JuliaKM CreditAttribution: JuliaKM commentedComment #6
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedok, working on that - cept the moving the "for more info..." - all the ones i've done have been like that, since that's mostly how it was on the old help text - should have been put in the template/standard if that's how it's supposed to be! going to mention this on the main thread.
Comment #7
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedoh, and re: #4 the double quotes are because there's an apostrophe somewhere in that string - i know you can use a /' instead, but i was instructed on irc to use the " instead.
here's the updated patch, but will re-update if needed for the "for more info" once there's a verdict on the main thread.
thanks julia!
Comment #8
jhodgdonOne small update to the patch is needed: the indentation is not consistent. It should only use spaces, not tabs.
I like the rest of the patch, though, so if the indentation is fixed up I would mark it RTBC.
Comment #9
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedfixed indents, marking RTBC
Comment #10
sunPlease double-check these changes in Garland.
Comment #11
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedmakin a fix, from webchick, will post new patch shortly
Comment #12
webchickYeah, my comment on IRC was whether it really added anything to spell out the individual permissions here. I don't really think it does. We do that in node's help, but that's because these permissions are dynamically created whenever a new node type is added.
In other sections of the text, pointing out specific permissions where appropriate is well and good though.
Comment #13
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedremoved perm sections and edited the "Default and custom settings" section quite a bit, there was a lot of redundancy.
Comment #14
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedComment #15
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedi am failing at indenting today - fixed version
Comment #16
jhodgdonOne very minor detail: The post without approval permission is actually called "Post comments without approval".
Other than that, I like the current version.
Comment #17
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commenteddone - new patch, i RTBC you!
Comment #18
jhodgdonThe standard for capitalization is not being followed. See http://drupal.org/node/632280 -- should start with "The foo module" not "The Foo module" according to standard.
Comment #19
sun@jhodgdon: I don't see this being explicitly stated on the page you linked to, but the standard you want to apply here seems utterly wrong to me. "The Node module" refers to a proper name of a piece of software, and therefore, "Node" should be properly capitalized. I've seen many places in core where we use improper capitalization of module names. If necessary, we should create a separate issue to fix this bug in the documentation standards.
But no reason to hold up this patch.
Comment #20
jhodgdonThe UX team approved the standard with "node module" uncapitalized. I'm assuming they checked it over carefully before they approved it. See discussion on #537828: Help text for core modules - update to conform to new standard. Please discuss with them before you decide the standard is wrong.
And we do need to figure out the standard before we patch all of these modules and then have to go back and patch them all again.
Comment #21
arianek CreditAttribution: arianek commentedcaps are a go (see main background issue) - RTBC!
Comment #22
webchickCommitted to HEAD! Thanks! :)