After much contemplation and frustration, but most of all an overarching sense that Drupal 8 is no longer the system that I enjoy or love, I would like to remove my responsibilities of maintaining future versions of Drupal core. Drupal 8 is a system I can hardly understand or work with, let alone something I would contribute my time to maintain. I may still have a change of heart and find D8 something I can work with after it's been released, but my current perspective on it leaves me hopeless. In any case, Drupal would be better served by someone who understands the underlying systems maintaining them. There's hardly any of my original code left anyway at this point.

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#2 maintainers_txt.patch680 bytesquicksketch
maintainers_txt.patch579 bytesquicksketch
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Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Needs work

The last submitted patch, maintainers_txt.patch, failed testing.

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Status: Needs work » Reviewed & tested by the community
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Geez, it's like the final insult. Reroll against head.

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quicksketch, in case we can't change your mind - thanks for all the great contributions you've made to Drupal core and contrib!

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You will be missed.

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'(

Thanks Nate for everything!

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Just to be clear, I'm not leaving Drupal development and I'm still maintaining my Drupal 7 modules, especially Webform which I'm prepping for a 4.0 release. It's unlikely that I'll be moving to D8 work any time soon, and in the meantime I'm figuring out what role Drupal has for me.

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Sad to see.

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I hope we make it with D8 to a point where you love it again! :)

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Sad indeed! Nate, will you port Webform to 8?

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Sad indeed :(

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Very sad. :(

I hope that once Drupal 8 has matured (with the BC layers removed and "in the process of being converted" code is converted), you will be pleased again with what you see and return! :)

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Sad, but I know how you feel Nate ;)

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Thank you! @quicksketch

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Thanks for all your work, Nate. If we get to 300 comments, will you change your mind? :)

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Wow, that is sad indeed, but glad you're still going to be active in the community for a while yet.

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Sad to hear. You have been a big inspiration during all the years I've been a part of the community and in using Drupal. I really hope there will be a point in the future for you to change your mind about this. Many thanks for all your good work [so far].

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Sad :(

I was not aware of your core implication, but I know I've loved your contrib work over the years... I can simply hope you'll be back for D8 at one point. Thanks for everything anyway.

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Nate, thanks for all your contributions and leadership with Drupal and I wanted to let you know that your work is very much appreciated. As others have mentioned already, we hope your impressions of D8 improve for all of our benefit (and careers).

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I agree that D8 has changed a lot, I'm still very confused with it but to me it is a challenge, I have a patch in D8 core already and more will come.

I don't think it is possible to quit Drupal, one can only quit living first! :)

Thanks for your contributions so far quicksketch, I'm confident we'll continue to see you around.

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Thank you Nate for all you have pushed for, I greatly admire and appriciate your work. See you in contrib!

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Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Fixed

Committed and pushed to 8.x. :(

Nate, you've done outstanding work throughout the last few core releases, and I'm hugely appreciative of all your arguments for bringing sanity to DX and UX in D8 core. I'm confident we can continue carrying out the initiatives you've started from now until RC-1, and make D8 into something that feels good to work with.

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Nate,

Every project I've ever made on Drupal had your modules in the first few minutes of downloading and enabling. You have brought joy to many thousands of clients just like mine.

Josh

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Thank you for your great work.

I was not aware of your core implication, but I know I've loved your contrib work over the years... I can simply hope you'll be back for D8 at one point. Thanks for everything anyway.

I feel the same.
Whenever you are ready for D8 contrib work I want to help.

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I remember getting support from quicksketch seven years ago in IRC. That year both of us took on the massive learning curve hit and dove headfirst into Drupal, and we were both doing support in #drupal-support to sharpen our skills. Learning it was a real investment of our time, and it's an journey you can see people starting every day in the IRC support rooms. With D6 and D7 it always felt like those same concepts we figured out long ago still applied, just that the code got cleaner and more powerful.

And now I find myself in a similar boat as quicksketch again. Here we are, 7-8 years in, and both looking at that massive 3 month (at least) investment in learning entirely new systems and ways of doing things. I am going to try to tackle this curve again some time later this year or early next. Unfortunately I am really not looking forward to it nearly as much the second time around.

So I really feel where you're coming from here, Nate, and I wish you the best of luck in future projects. I'm glad you're not also leaving the community over this, and am very grateful for the continued support of your neat contrib modules.

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Very very very Sad :(

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I just shed a tear for real

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A real shame but understandable. I hope all of us can get over this learning curve one day. I'm also pretty stumped by some of the new D8 ins and outs.

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quicksketch's user page sums it up nicely:

Projects
Webform (2063 commits)
Fivestar (386 commits)
Flag (334 commits)
FileField (265 commits)
Form Builder (214 commits)
Link (165 commits)
ImageField (153 commits)
External Links (88 commits)
jCarousel (82 commits)
Image Resize Filter (82 commits)
...etc.. etc...
Total: 4646(!) commits.... and counting we hope ?

It is hard to remain positive about D8 when some of the very best no longer love or understand its core....

But let that not stop the rest of us from trying: Let's combat the technical debt in D8!

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Thanks for your efforts on core @quicksketch, particularly with the new editor/ckeditor/wysiwyg and modal stuff in D8.
If you've got any questions about porting any of your contrib modules to D8; or D8 in general, I'd be happy to try and fill in any blanks from what I've gleaned so far.
Also thanks RdeBoer, for a positive post on your blog.

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That's sad :(
Thanks for all your work for Drupal!

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Sad to hear that the future of the project is not matching up with your expectations. But I am glad to hear that you are still planning on working in the community and maintaining your projects for the time-being. You have been a huge inspiration and someone that I have looked up to for a very long time. If I see your name attached to a module or a discussion, I'm pretty sure there is value there. Please know that there are many of us in the Drupal community that truly appreciate the work you have done. Hopefully I'll one day be able to buy you a beer or a coffee and say thank you in person, but for now, know that your work is appreciated.

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.

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It's a shame to see quality people leave the community. I understand though. I'm not sure what's up for me either. I've looked into D8 and have come to the conclusion it's a bastard love child of Drupal, Symfony and Twigg.

Bring back the Drupal I fell in love with.

Good Luck