Design Review and improvement proposals

If theirs one thing that stands out from your designs its the change from tabs to the horizontal main menu - actually I really like this as it gives a strong division between header and page content, and nice contrast to highlight the menu links.

I agree with most all you've said - I do tend to think the default is too dark and a little on the cool side right now - certainly I think Prosper has a better feel in b&w and is well designed in that regard.

For me the default header cannot blend with toolbar, at all, its must have a reasonable level of contrast - however I don't really like the space at the top all that much. Take a look at my screenshot, the shortcuts open/close arrow thing looks weird and floating in space when closed.

I'm not sure what to say in response to this issue. It seems like this is a giant design bikeshed that's been thrown at the project at the last minute.

I am currently working on tweaks to the design, and looking at all of the color schemes (see #762468: Fix up the color schemes for Bartik where, ironically, other people are telling me not to continue working on color schemes — also advice that I don't plan to take).

I am not open to having a community discussion of "design review and improvement proposals." Eigentor has approached me before asking if he can redesign the theme, and I've told him no.

Therefore I am closing this issue.

I'm with eigentor on this - marking as won't fix is just holding up a process - once this hits core it'll be no holds bared bikesheading and change is just inevitable. The design needs work, lets get on with it.

No, webchick has been very, very clear, once Bartik is in core, the visual design is locked down.

In fact, she just said:

[4:40pm] webchick: I'm operating under the assumption that we get this in, we have the default theme issue to argue about, there are probably going to be a handful of isssues that come up that just happen when you get a theme in front of a larger audience (e.g. "When I use Chrome 29.003.30.33 on my mom's electronic toaster...")
[4:40pm] webchick: But for the most part, this is done.
[4:40pm] webchick: Put away.
[4:40pm] webchick: We're not doing anymore design
[4:41pm] webchick: We're not doing anymore tweaking of CSS
[4:41pm] webchick: Whatever's getting into core, that's what the D7 version of Bartik looks like.

The time for major design changes was months ago — like February. We are in design-freeze. If you don't want Bartik in core, then make your case to not include it. This project has been 11 months in development. Asking for radical design changes three days before the final patch, or two weeks before the final patch — it's all much too late.

Btw, I fixed the problem shown in #2 above, as promised — in #762468: Fix up the color schemes for Bartik

Well, yeah, we don't want anything major, but tweaks will be made, just as Seven is being tweaked all the time. I think core inclusion will bring out issues and we'll need to tweak stuff, such as when closer to D7 release and we have a lot more contrib modules to test with, this could highlight things we don't know about yet.

Sub (even though it doesn't appear that this is going anywhere based on #6)

Angie has clarified this in #845742-52: Make Bartik the default core theme. The door is largely open for refinements of Bartik.

Moved to #849670: Recent content block usability

andypost, could you post that as a separate issue, that certainly needs to be looked at.

Angie has clarified this in #845742-52: Make Bartik the default core theme. The door is largely open for refinements of Bartik.

Woah. WOAH! No, that is certainly not REMOTELY at all what I said.

I said that the theme has some obvious visual bugs and we need to fix them before release. A whole-sale re-design of Bartik is absolutely not happening.