Removed
To rearrange forums and containers, grab a drag-and-drop handle under the Name column and drag the forum or container to a new location in the list. (Grab a handle by clicking and holding the mouse while hovering over a handle icon.) Remember that your changes will not be saved until you click the Save button at the bottom of the page.

Because we shouldn't describe how an interaction works, instead it should be obvious from the interaction itself. Also the please click save is a bit overdone, with also the inline feedback of save.

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keith.smith’s picture

Component: forum.module » user interface text
Status: Needs review » Reviewed & tested by the community

Yes, this seems fine.

As an aside, all this "grab a handle" business was put in at the last possible second of the Drupal 6 string freeze, because this was, then, a new interaction and we weren't certain that people would immediately grasp it, pun intended. But, it seems to have turned out fairly self-explanatory, so there's no need to have the additional text.

eigentor’s picture

Not bad, but we could be more noob-compatible, and even much shorter.

How about:

"All forums on your page. You can put forums into containers to group them."

No need to talk about topics and threads here: this should be on the thread list.

Dries’s picture

@eigenator: do you mean "All forums on you site" (instead of page)?

Dries’s picture

Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Fixed

Committed to CVS HEAD. Thanks!

eigentor’s picture

Status: Fixed » Needs review
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@Dries yes. All forums on your site. :)

Though the other version is already comitted, I'd like to give it a shot with the as-short-as-possible one.

eigentor’s picture

Darn, the last one had "page". This one has "site"

eigentor’s picture

And once more because of double hyphens...

It's a real drag that it is not possible to edit or remove attachments on issues in your own comments.

Status: Needs review » Needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

eigentor’s picture

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O.K. this could not work, because the other patch was applied before. New attempt.

This is the description now:

"All forums on your site. You can put forums into containers to group them."

eigentor’s picture

Status: Needs work » Needs review
Bojhan’s picture

I think you should be able to catch it into one nicely flowing sentence, its to much a "two" thing sentence now. One does not need to explain what this page holds, merely the main concept it is for.

Status: Needs review » Needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

yoroy’s picture

Status: Needs work » Needs review
FileSize
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couple of changes added here, all related to the forum pages admin pages.

changed

This page displays a list of existing forums and containers. Containers (optionally) hold forums, and forums hold forum topics (a forum topic is the initial post to a threaded discussion). To provide structure, both containers and forums may be placed inside other containers and forums.

to:

Use containers to group related forums.

changed

By grouping related or similar forums, containers help organize forums. For example, a container named "Food" may hold two forums named "Fruit" and "Vegetables", respectively.

to:

Containers let you organize forums. For example, a container named "Food" may hold two forums named "Fruit" and "Vegetables".

changed

A forum holds related or similar forum topics (a forum topic is the initial post to a threaded discussion). For example, a forum named "Fruit" may contain forum topics titled "Apples" and "Bananas", respectively.

to:

A forum holds related forum topics. For example, a forum named "Fruit" may contain forum topics titled "Apples" and "Bananas".

changed

These settings allow you to adjust the display of your forum topics. The content types available for use within a forum may be selected by editing the <em>Content types</em> on the forum vocabulary page.

to:

Adjust the display of your forum topics. Select the content types that may be used in a forum by editing the <em>Content types</em> on the forum vocabulary page.
Bojhan’s picture

Screenshots please?

eigentor’s picture

images from yoroy's patch:

Container before

after

Forum before

after

Forum before

after

Settings before

after

eigentor’s picture

Re-rolled it to make it even shorter and by removing unneeded words. Pattern: "For example, a Forum named Fruit" becomes "A forum named Fruit"

Patch and screenshots.

eigentor’s picture

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Rerolled, changed "Set content types to use on the Forum vocabulary page"
to "Select content types to use in Forums on the Forum vocabulary page"

Updated the link to that page. And - er - sometimes the controls to choose content types are missing on that page...

eigentor’s picture

FileSize
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uh, and the patch...

Status: Needs review » Needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

yoroy’s picture

FileSize
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Ok here we go:

Forum list before:

forums-before

Forum list after:

forums-list-after
___

Forum settings before:

forum-settings-after

Forum settings after:

forum-settings-after
___

Add container before:

forum-add-container-before

Add container after:

forum-add-container-after
___

Add forum topic before:

forum-add-forum-before

Add forum topic after:

forum-add-topic-after

yoroy’s picture

Assigned: Bojhan » yoroy
Status: Needs work » Needs review

status etc.

Status: Needs review » Needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

yoroy’s picture

Assigned: yoroy » Unassigned

No idea how to fix tests.

Status: Needs work » Needs review
Issue tags: -Usability, -ui-text

Bojhan requested that failed test be re-tested.

Status: Needs review » Needs work
Issue tags: +Usability, +ui-text

The last submitted patch failed testing.

yoroy’s picture

Status: Needs work » Needs review
FileSize
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Or maybe I do.

yoroy’s picture

Assigned: Unassigned » yoroy

woohoo! Now needs review of #21 by humans.

redndahead’s picture

Status: Needs review » Reviewed & tested by the community

Looking over the code it looks good. Nice change.

webchick’s picture

Status: Reviewed & tested by the community » Needs work

Could we avoid silly, nonsensical examples? There is no one on this earth, even Martha Stewart, who is going to name forum categories Fruit and Vegetables and forums Apples and Bananas.

How about describing more "real world" sample forum containers/forums? You know, like these! http://drupal.org/forum

For example, categories of "General" and "Support", and "General" may contain forums such as "News and Announcements" and "General Discussion".

webchick’s picture

On the other hand, that Fruit/Vegetables and Apple/Bananas example might be very nice in the help text/help page for Taxonomy.

yoroy’s picture

Status: Needs work » Needs review
FileSize
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Ok, removed examples in this patch.

webchick’s picture

Status: Needs review » Fixed

Great! Even fewer words. :)

Committed to HEAD.

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)
Issue tags: -Usability, -ui-text

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.