| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Kristen, California, The Happy Fits! https://www.thehappyfits.com/:wave:1 |
| surabhi.gokte |
Hello :wave:Surabhi, from India.No new band or musician but I have been listening to a lot of classical Indian music recently. Helps with the focus in work too!:wave:1 |
| liberatr (he/him) |
Ryan, Oregon, US - - Japanese Breakfast:wave:2 |
| Nico Grienauer (he/him) |
Nico (d.o Grienauer) from Vienna. DrupalCamp AT Co-Organizer, Drupical creator, Open Source Award Initiator, DrupalAT Association board member, Splash Award AT Organisator, Mautic Community Lead Secretary, CodeWeek Ambassador:wave:2 |
| Tinto |
Hello from Amsterdam, NL :blob_wave:Two new discoveries this week: Nicolini and Molchat Doma:wave:2 |
| AmyJune (volkswagenchick) |
AmyJune in California USA. I rediscovered Portishead (edited) :musical_note:1:wave:3 |
| leslieg |
Leslie in Boston, Massachusetts catching up on the meeting:wave:2 |
| Webbeh |
Eric from Atlanta, GA. Re-listening to My Chemical Romance for their 2022 tour and getting acquainted to the new Static Dress album.:wave:2 |
| Rosie Gladden |
:wave: Rosie, Vancouver - just recently discovered & went to see LEON who was great! :slightly_smiling_face: - just catching up:wave:2 |
| gregg_marshall |
Gregg from Denver, new to Ayreon:wave:3 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
In addition to adding events here, use this issue to add new events and encourage organizers to add these to the Community Events list as well: #3281974: 2022 Drupal contribution events (edited) Drupal.org2022 Drupal contribution eventsProblem/Motivation Right now it's not easy to find upcoming contribution events so use this as a temporary place to document them until we have good documentation in place for advertising these.May 24th |
| surabhi.gokte |
Planning to organise an internal contribution sprint at the end of this month but if more people would like to join hands we can make it wider scoped , invite more people and also talk more about our initiative followed by sprinitng! |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Is this for the India Drupal Association or Srijan? |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
What date/time? |
| surabhi.gokte |
For Srijan, but as I said I can open it to a wider audience and involve DIA as well. |
| surabhi.gokte |
Date is yet tentative. Planning to do it somewhere between June 22-24.Time can be planned accordingly! |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Okay... maybe we can assess interest better... but how? Twitter survey? Google survey? Specific Slack thread? |
| surabhi.gokte |
Let’s open a new thread (with tentative date/time and purpose) in this meeting and share the link of the thread in various channels and invite people to participate? |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Sounds good... let me add it:cool:1 |
| quietone |
The bugsmash group triage, in the Core calendar.:+1:1:heavy_check_mark:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Great! I thought that's still happening but wasn't 100% sure. Would it make sense to add that to the community events list regularly as a contribution event? I don't think most people know about the core calendar :heavy_plus_sign:1 |
| quietone |
We had a lull at the beginning of the year but we are working to get back to doing it regularly.:+1:1:heavy_check_mark:1 |
| AmyJune (volkswagenchick) |
DrupalCamp Colorado will have an event In August :+1:1:heavy_check_mark:1 |
| AmyJune (volkswagenchick) |
https://www.drupal-colorado.org/event/drupalcamp-colorado-2022This site was just launched but contrib day is that's Sunday, Aug 7:+1:1:heavy_check_mark:1 |
| leslieg |
Design4Drupal Boston will have a virtual event on June 24th. Keynote and a contribution event focused around the Project Browser initiative. design4drupal.org:heart:1:+1:1:heavy_check_mark:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I've added these to the issue ^ and advertised the ones at the end of the month: https://twitter.com/kristen_pol/status/1534247475870982144?s=20&t=Ti3h3v... Pol @kristen_polDrupal contribution events coming up at the end of June including virtual events:- Drupal Mountain Camp Switzerland (June 23 - 26)- Brisbane Drupal monthly mentoring (June 24)- Design4Drupal Boston (June 24)- Srijan India event (TBD, June 22-24)[#3281974]Twitter | Jun 8th |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I'm going to start making contribution events in the community events area for these events so they have more visibility, e.g. |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://www.drupal.org/community/events/drupal-mountain-camp-switzerland... Mountain Camp Switzerland 2022 (contribution)In June 2022 the Drupal community from Switzerland and the world will gather again in beautiful Davos for the third Drupal Mountain Camp!Jun 8th |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://www.drupal.org/community/events/design4drupal-boston-contributio..., Boston (contribution)Our ONLINE EVENT on June 24th features Sharon Steed's keynote on "Developing Sustainable Empathy Systems as well as an afternoon Contribution event. Our 2022 Webinar series continues monthly throughout the year with design, UI/UX and theming topics for all audiences.Jun 8th |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://www.drupal.org/community/events/drupal-monthly-mentoring-june-20... monthly mentoring: June 2022Drupal virtual mentoring June 2022Jun 8th |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Can't add ongoing/recurring events to the community events list so I added an issue: [#3284522]Drupal.orgAdd support for ongoing events to community eventsProblem/Motivation There are some ongoing events like Contrib Half Hour, Bug Smash triage, and Brisbane monthly mentoring that happen weekly, monthly, or fortnightly. It's cumbersome to have to continually add these events to the events list. Steps to reproduce Proposed resolution Allow for recurring events to be added. Remaining tasks Update content type Update view User interface changes API changes Data model changesJun 8th |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
In addition to adding your resources here, use this issue to note any resources and documentation that might be helpful for contribution events or places we could look (even outside of Drupal): #3280005: META: Gather documentation and resources for contribution event organization (edited) Drupal.orgMETA: Gather documentation and resources for contribution event organizationProblem/Motivation To help encourage more contribution events, we should find existing and create new documentation and resources for how to plan, organize, run, and market contribution events of various types. Steps to reproduce Proposed resolution Look for existing documentation and resources and figure out what gaps there are.May 12th |
| surabhi.gokte |
@Kristen Pol (she/her) do you have pointers in mind w.r.t. https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C03FH8GTB1A/p1654581329426869?thread_t...? (edited) Kristen Pol (she/her)I was hoping we'd have more documentation put together before doing one of those but I haven't found much existing documentation yet... so maybe we have to build from scratchFrom a thread in contribution-events | Jun 7th | View reply |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I got a couple things from @Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) and he referenced one of my blog posts :smile: but otherwise I haven't seen much fly by for this |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
This was added in another thread: https://www.drupal.org/community/contributor-guide/reference-information... contribution eventsA contribution event is getting people together for a set amount of time – usually one to two days – and working on some aspect of Drupal. Ideally, participants will learn from others as they go, and the goal is either to get some specific work done, mentor new contributors, or both. This section provides information on how to organize a contribution event.Aug 29th, 2020 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I made an issue to review this: [#3284749]Drupal.orgReview existing "Organizing contribution events" documentation guideProblem/Motivation/Idea There is a very cool existing guide on contribution events that should be carefully reviewed to see if it can be enhanced at all and how it fits into the overall structure of documenting contribution events info. Proposed resolution Review and improve. Remaining tasks Review and improve Create followup issues as appropriateJun 9th |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
But @leslieg said today that EOWG also has some documentation for organizing contribution events |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
In addition to adding your existing channels here, use this issue to note any existing marketing channels for advertising contribution events: #3279808: Gather existing contribution event marketing channels (edited) Drupal.orgGather existing contribution event marketing channelsProblem/Motivation When there is a contribution event, it needs to be marketed widely for ideally more participation. There are already some channels like the Drupal Slack events channel and https://www.drupal.org/community/events, but we need a documented list with how to post to each channel. Steps to reproduce Proposed resolution Review existing channels and think if new channels need to be created. For example, would it be helpful at all to have a dedicated contribution-events channel in Drupal Slack?May 11th |
| surabhi.gokte |
Other than Social Media (Twitter, LinkedIn, FB), depending on the event, I try to target local channels. Eg. for DC Asheville I would use channels like #ashevillecamp, #north-carolina etc. to make event related announcements.Similarly, we can target local community channels to talk about our initiative, like #drupal-india-meetups #drupal-europe |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
ah, didn't realize about the #drupal-europe channel... I'm in the #australia-nz one because I'm working for Australian companies now (even though I'm still in California) |
| surabhi.gokte |
I think there are many such groups we don’t even know about :sweat_smile:Being in California and working for Australian company must be super hard with timing! (edited) |
| Nico Grienauer (he/him) |
we use. d.o events, meetup.com twitter and our own association website to communicate DrupalAustria (DACH) Related Events:+1:1 |
| Tinto |
The last event was thrown together on such short notice that I really didn’t have time to even think about it. But these tips are very helpful. Thanks!:+1:1 |
| Tinto |
For events in The Netherlands, there is a seperate Slack workspace where events are discussed and promoted: http://drupalnl-slack.herokuapp.com/:+1:1 |
| Tinto |
There’s also DrupalChat - an attempt at a non-proprietary/paid alternative to Slack (Rocket.Chat)https://drupalchat.me (edited) :+1:1 |
| Nico Grienauer (he/him) |
we also use drupalchat.me primarely for DACH People.:+1:1 |
| liberatr (he/him) |
Meetup.com, g.d,o, Slack, other local non-drupal usergroups, word of mouth with local agencies, during local Drupal meetups, Twitter, podcasts (Talking Drupal and Lullabot are most active right now):+1:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
This is all great feedback :heart_eyes: I'll be adding it to the issue in the next couple weeks and will start migrating the information to the Drupal guide documentation |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Added these to the issue for now: #3279808: Gather existing contribution event marketing channels#comment-14560786Drupal.orgGather existing contribution event marketing channelsProblem/Motivation When there is a contribution event, it needs to be marketed widely for ideally more participation. There are already some channels like the Drupal Slack events channel and https://www.drupal.org/community/events, but we need a documented list with how to post to each channel. Steps to reproduce Proposed resolution Review existing channels and think if new channels need to be created. For example, would it be helpful at all to have a dedicated contribution-events channel in Drupal Slack?May 11th:+1:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
@surabhi.gokte raised this (edited) |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I'm interested depending on the time. Anytime between 10am to midnight Pacific time works for me but I know India+California are shifted ~12 hours :slightly_smiling_face: |
| surabhi.gokte |
Ooh! It is going to be hard then :grimacing: Let me figure out some time that laps both zones! |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Don't schedule it around me :wink: An alternative is if we could do a 24 hour round-the-world thing with mentors but the notice might be too short to get that organized |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I was hoping we'd have more documentation put together before doing one of those but I haven't found much existing documentation yet... so maybe we have to build from scratch |
| surabhi.gokte |
Yeah, something like D9 Porting day (we always talk about this one :smile:) that happened in 3 timezones throughout the day.. |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Yes, very well organized by @Gábor Hojtsy (he/him) :slightly_smiling_face::heavy_plus_sign:1 |
| surabhi.gokte |
Let’s open a new thread for Documentation discussion and we can have pointers and at least start writing sthg.. what say? |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
There is a thread for documentation |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C03FH8GTB1A/p1654578181535609Kristen Pol (she/her)5️⃣ Do you have any resources or documentation suggestions? Do you have suggestions for where to look for existing documentation (even outside of Drupal)?Thread in contribution-events | Jun 7th | View message |
| surabhi.gokte |
Oops, sorry :grimacing: |
| Tinto |
Interested! (depending on the timezone) :yum::yay3:1:+1:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
@surabhi.gokte raised this |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C03FH8GTB1A/p1654579600751089?thread_t... of EOWG and Contribution Events initiative. I think it is very important to happen as the goals are pretty hand-in-hand. The next open meeting should be the best place to introduce this initiative.From a thread in contribution-events | Jun 7th | View reply |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
@surabhi.gokte Since I am not likely to attend, are you comfortable with representing the initiative at the EOWG meeting? |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
And, like what was mentioned in another thread, it would be great to have this recorded if possible |
| surabhi.gokte |
Sure Kristen. I would love if you were able to do it but I also don’t want you to wake up so early for this :sweat_smile: |
| AmyJune (volkswagenchick) |
I try to attend the EOWG but mostly lurk since it's very early for me:+1:1 |
| gusaus |
Seems like a few more folks involved with EOWG have recently joined this channel. What's the best way to make sure these groups are well aligned and compliment each other? Trade notes regarding goals and priorities? See if few folks would be interested in joining both teams? |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
It's unlikely I'll ever join the EOWG meeting given the time but @leslieg @surabhi.gokte and @AmyJune (volkswagenchick) attend it. I'm happy to jump on calls (regular or adhoc) 10am or later Pacific time :) |
| AmyJune (volkswagenchick) |
Yeah, it’s a struggle for me… But I attend to stay with the pulse of how things are evolving with camps |
| gusaus |
I'm thinking more about enabling ongoing collaboration rather than having all the organizers attend each other's meetings.Seems like the groups are well aligned - almost to the point where this one could be a subset of https://www.drupal.org/community/event-organizersDrupal.orgEvent OrganizersAbout Us The Event Organizers Working Group (EOWG) is concerned with supporting community-led events within the Drupal community. These include camps, summits, training days, contribution days, and meetups. While the material we produce will be open and accessible to anyone (just as much of our best practices have come from other communities), we intend to focus on producing documentation and services to support and promote community-led events. Here you find a session from DrupalCon Global 2020 about the Event Organizers Working Group.Jan 10th, 2019 |
| AmyJune (volkswagenchick) |
agreed |
| gusaus |
Curious what the other 'section maintainers' on that page think. Assuming everybody is in this Slack, maybe someone could invite them to this channel. |
| gusaus |
It's been awhile since I lurked in their Slack - at the time, I don't think they had a corresponding channel in this Slack (which seemed a bit strange to me). If they still don't, maybe they could use this channel whenever it makes sense to connect/collaborate with the larger community. (edited) |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
For selfish reasons, I'd prefer they join here than me having to join another Slack workspace :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: |
| gusaus |
There's even a landing page for Initiatives. Considering we're also talking about stuff like managing/extending a website and contributing as learning, I think there may be a good bit of role/task overlap.Drupal.orgInitiativesEOWG has identified three inaugural initiatives: Drupal Events Information, Drupal Event Platform, and Onboarding to the Drupal Community at Events.Feb 26th, 2021 (39 kB)https://www.drupal.org/node/3200470Drupal.orgMETA: Contribution Events Initiative roles and tasksProblem/Motivation This was brought up by @gusaus during the initiative meeting on 23 May 2022. How to use contribution events to gain experience for a variety of roles?May 24th |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
We wouldn't technically qualify as an initiative under EOWG because they are doing a pretty formal process and we're just winging it :tada: |
| gusaus |
Winging it is the best way :clapper: We certainly don't want to be owned by a larger group. Think it's important we're able to make quick decisions on things that would ensure this group is independent, diverse, inclusive and sustainable. :drupalparrot:Drupal.orgExplore connecting Contribution Events Initiative to Open Collective fundingProblem/Motivation Open Collective is a way to allow funding for open source projects. Contribution events can always benefit from getting funding to help those who might not be able to afford to contribute the opportunity to do so. Steps to reproduce Proposed resolution Explore how this might work and figure out next steps. Remaining tasks Read through existing discussing in Open Collective #drupal channel Figure out best approach Create followup issues as needed User interface changes API changes Data model changesMay 18th:100:1 |
| gusaus |
Posting this video and recap of the latest Open Source Collective (Open Collective's fiscal host for open source projects) community call here as it provides a glimpse into an off-Drupal Slack community that I'd recommend folks interested in sustaining their project, initiative, contribution event, or themselves (@liberatr (he/him) listed several examples here) consider joining. Especially if you or your company has other open source interests in addition to Drupal.YouTube | Open Source CollectiveOSC Community Call – May opencollective.comOSC Community Calls – What we talked about in May & where to sign up for next Thursday, June 16th - Open Source CollectiveThank you to everyone who joined our last community call! We're excited about the opportunity that this monthly space can hold for our projects to talk with one another and learn how to best build up their open source projects. For those wh...opencollective.comOpen Source Collective - Open CollectiveNon-profit fiscal host promoting a healthy and sustainable open source ecosystem. (28 kB)https://opencollective.com/opensourceDrupal.orgFunding: User Experience (e.g. for Drupal.org)Currently you can list sponsoring organizations for a Drupal.org project by editing the project page and adding a reference to a "supporting organizaton". This process is manual and not transparent. I'm not criticizing the current system, or suggesting we take it away, but certain projects may wish to point to their external funding website, like OpenCollective or Patreon, or others. The question becomes "What does that look like on a Drupal.org page?Mar 21st, 2020:+1:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Had a good call with @leslieg today on getting EOWG and CEI aligned. More info: [#3285490]Drupal.orgDetermine working relationship between EOWG and Contribution Events InitiativeProblem/Motivation/Idea The Event Organizers Working Group (EOWG) exists and has some overlap in goals with the Contribution Events Initiative (CEI). We want to be able to effecting work together and not duplicate effort. Proposed resolution Collaborate to figure out the best approach to work together.Jun 14th:raised_hands:1:clapper:1:drupalparrot:1 |
| gusaus |
So great y'all connected on a call! |
| gusaus |
So generally speaking... it sounds like this group (or certain team members) could take the lead on #3 + 4 in #3279806: Determine goals for the Contribution Events community project#comment-14560722 ? |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
That would be the idea but we need to get some volunteers from more than just me :smile: |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Maybe good for the next meeting |
| gusaus |
I think one of the goals for setting up a collective for the Contribution Events Initiative would be to raise funds/cover costs for organizers/team members that need to be sponsored to participate in something potentially time intensive like #3Drupal.orgStrategy for using Open Social drupalcontributions.opensocial.site for ongoing contribution eventsProblem/Motivation The drupalcontributions.opensocial.site website has been used for several contribution events including for DrupalCons. It would be useful as an default tool available for any contribution event. Steps to reproduce Proposed resolution Figure out how to make this happen. Remaining tasks Contact open social Figure out next steps Make followup issues as necessary User interface changes API changes Data model changesMay 23rd:+1:1 |
| gusaus |
Setting up the collective itself is not that time intensive - main thing is just to figure out 1) if it would help make the program sustainable; and 2) go through the application process. As someone that's been through the process several times, I can help with the latter.opencollective.comOpen Collective Foundation - Open CollectiveFiscal host organization for US-based Collectives with a charitable mission (48 kB)https://opencollective.com/foundation/apply:+1:1 |
| gusaus |
Here's the demo for the EOWG Event Platform :raised_hands:YouTube | Drupal ChicagoDrupal Event Organizers Working Group: Events Platform Demo Drupal.orgDrupal Event PlatformPurpose The event website is one of the most important and laborious tasks associated with producing a quality Drupal event. For some events, the website is the main application that helps organize and build the entire experience from collecting session submissions to assigning presentations to the schedule. The Drupal Event Platform (DEP) committee within the Drupal Event Organizers Working Group (EOWG) is looking to reduce the time and resources it takes to create an event website site through the creation of a flexible and customizable website starter kit for event organizers.Mar 2nd, 2021https://www.drupal.org/node/3201091:tada:2:fire:2 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Thanks for sharing! I'll try to watch before next week |
| gusaus |
Seems like this type of setup (for one off events) could be a total compliment to the Drupal Contributions site (ongoing events).drupalcontributions.opensocial.siteWelcome to the Drupal Contribution Platform | DrupalCon Contribution PlatformWelcome to the Drupal Contribution Platform! Whether it is writing code for new features, testing that new code, finding bugs, documenting how to use Drupal, building marketing resources for organizations to use, providing learning and education, or mentoring others building their skills in any of these ways … there is a place for you to make your mark. RegisterLogin The DrupalCon Code of Conduct applies here.https://drupalcontributions.opensocial.site/ |
| gusaus |
It was largely modeled after https://www.fldrupal.camp/ and enables site builders to spin up something similar.Actually not a distribution, but sort of a 'glue' module https://www.drupal.org/project/event_platformfldrupal.campFlorida DrupalCampFlorida DrupalCamp 2022 will be held February 18-20th, 2022 at Florida Technical College in Orlando, FLDrupal.orgEvent PlatformThe Event Platform is actually a set of modules, each of which provides functionality designed to satisfy the needs of anyone creating a site for a Drupal Camp or similar event. Event Platform Sessions creates a robust system for user-suggested sessions, including an approval workflow, and the ability to automatically notify a user when their suggestion is accepted or rejected. Accepted sessions are displayed in a list, and there's also the ability to associate sessions with rooms, tracks, time slots, and more.Jan 26th |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
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| surabhi.gokte |
A few earlier would not work for me personally, but if it works for most of us then I won’t mind joining a bit later in the day as anyway it is open for a whole day.:heavy_check_mark:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
The first meeting had a lot of synchronous participation, I believe due to US folks. I specifically was trying to put this one in the AU/NZ time zone since the only other initiative meeting that is in AU/NZ time zone is bugsmash. Most initiative meetings are geared towards Eastern US times. |
| surabhi.gokte |
Yup, AU/NZ time zone is also Asia friendly (edited) :heavy_plus_sign:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
It's a public holiday in NZ so that could possibly explain less synchronous attendance :) |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
The bugsmash meeting was also very lightly (synchronously) attended |
| surabhi.gokte |
That makes sense! |
| liberatr (he/him) |
I am US based but the time would frequently be better for me.:heavy_check_mark:1 |
| Nico Grienauer (he/him) |
für EU(Austria) it was started at 7am. so even earlier there weil be no real time communication from this part of the world. :slightly_smiling_face::heavy_check_mark:1 |
| Tinto |
I’m in the same timezone as @Nico Grienauer (he/him) :sleeping_accommodation::+1:1 |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
We are having some great asynchronous participation so maybe I'll leave as is :) |
| Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I'll leave this as is for now and see how it goes the next couple meetings |
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kristen polSome things that might be good to discuss at this meeting:
1. #3279806: Determine goals for the Contribution Events community project
2. #3279808: Gather existing contribution event marketing channels
3. What events have their own d.o projects? This will help with #3280423: Create example issues with contribution event credits
4. Where should we be looking for existing documentation? This will help with #3280005: META: Gather documentation and resources for contribution event organization
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kristen polI went through all the meeting threads and got the notes from them into the correct issues. All that's left is to capture all the meeting notes into this issue.
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kristen polThanks @surabhi-gokte!
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