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By Anonymous (not verified) on
Hello!
I am a web developer and online marketer.
I have been working with Joomla as my CMS of preference in the past 6 years and feel I wish to migrate to Drupal given the outstanding feedback I have received over the last year.
My current website (in Joomla) performs very well on search engines and I wonder if some of you could provide me with feedback on the migration from a different CMS to Drupal, because I feel I will lose some of my rankings on the short run, and wish to confirm if it is worth the move.
Any feedback, positive or negative is well appreciated.
Aloha!
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Why mess with a working and
Why mess with a working and functional website, regardless of CMS used to implement it?
spritefully yours
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Why mess
Hi Sprite, so why mess?
Because I'd like the flexibility Drupal has to offer as I see it as the upgrade to my current CMS.
That is why.
project ...
That would be a significant Drupal project, with a lot of theming work and javascript integration to get all the animation effects implemented.
But what would a Drupal implementation add?
spritefully yours
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My perception of such upgrade (or migration) would bring better categorizing of more complex content, enhanced SEO options, better performance (quicker website load, and faster response time than Joomla), and a better framework for ever growing websites (expandability and scalability). I understand however that Drupal may not be the optimal option for e-commerce.
So again, I am trying to get feedback from those who have conducted this sort of migration in the past.
Thank you!!!
options ...
Drupal metatags module is very powerful to create search meta tagging both globally, by content type, and custom for specific pages:
https://www.drupal.org/project/metatag
- central to SEO
https://www.drupal.org/project/xmlsitemap
- builds xmlsitemap for search engine submission
... still takes work though.
Drupal Commerce for 8.x will be great when it is finished, but that is a while for 8.x. Drupal 7 commerce works fine.
I don't know about Joomla load times, but there are modules and tools available to tune Drupal load times (varnish, cdn support).
- this takes work, isn't automatic.
Your current site has a lot of theming involved, which is a HUGE task, but can be managed by customizing a commercial theme distribution, like, for example:
http://demo.morethanthemes.com/showcaseplus8/default/
http://demo.morethanthemes.com/magazineplus8/default/
... using something like the above as a base, to provide the them structure and javascript animated blocks and so forth from which to build UI details.
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Still a huge project to rebuild such a website, but for what level of gain, and without any guarantees.
spritefully yours
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THANK YOU!
This is great sprite, thank you so much.
It opens my eyes to anticipate things.
I may be taking aspects of what I have for granted in exchange to the superiority that Drupal has to offer over Joomla in other areas.
Yes, indeed it would take several weeks to duplicate the styling included on this current website, which is something I was willing to cope with because I've been staring at this migration for a while now. My concern is primarily with the things I am not currently predicting.
Your input is helpful.
Aloha!
drupal power
Drupal definitely has the most backend power available among all CMS systems.
However, Drupal takes a lot of effort to learn, which is why if you look at member profiles on drupal.org it is dominated by Drupal PHP programming professionals with 5-10 years of Drupal experience.
Theming for Drupal 8 is also, very, very complicated, although the demo links above show how amazingly powerful Drupal 8 theming plus javascript libraries can make a Drupal 8 website. The structure is basically twig framework base, bootstrap framework on top of twig, and then a couple dozen open source javascript libraries like flexslider and so fort integrated with the theming, to build the sort of structure at the demos above. Those D8 commercial distributions are the work of a team of half a dozen expert Drupal theme developers working for a few months to create one of those.
Keep in mind that there are many, many, layers involved in building the kind of commerce oriented website you are interested in.
However, you can get started with Drupal 8 commerce 2.x now, although it is unfinished and buggy, you can get it all integrated during development, and can hopefully hide enough of the bugs, so that even though the commerce will still be in beta, you can still deploy.
Over the long term Drupal 8, and with the new commerce, will be for the long term, the most powerful CMS available, with backend web application power that is orders of magnitude beyond any other platform.
You need to be ready for the complexity, but if you can handle the complexity, Drupal (7 and 8) are "Da' Sh!t" as they say ...
p.s. you are going to have to pay for dedicated server, high end caching, and CDN support, if you want ultra-snap performance ...
spritefully yours
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This feels like link spam.
SPAM?
Yeah, how so?
I think it's link spam. This
I think it's link spam. This is the show off your drupal site forum, and the poster posted a joomla site. Reported.
SPAM?
How is this SPAM?
Did you miss the content of my post entirely?
Yes I have a Joomla site, is the word Joomla prohibited in this forum?
If anything I have posted on the wrong topic and that would be my fault, but come on, do a better job at reading before making unnecessary and plain wrong assumptions.
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The fact that you've responded indicates no spam. However, we've seen this type of post hundreds/thousands of times. ie: A question mentioning Drupal in some way and the dropping of a link to a site in the post.
note: questioning "how" your post can be viewed as spam wasn't helping your case. ie username matches link, matches domain name, matches current role in the user profile. It's as if you tried to see how often you can mention the brand in a single action.
if you would be so kind as to edit your post and move it, that would be helpful.
Humm...
First you said it was SPAM, now you are saying that a link to my website which is central to my discussion is not necessary.
I'm seeing 2 things:
- According to you, Joomla is not a word allowed on this forum.
- According to you, links should not be allowed unless the website is built using Drupal.
Have you considered the possibility that you could be wrong on your evaluations?
A quick suggestion, perhaps engaging in the discussion would be more beneficial to the Drupal Forum experience than to making lazy observations.
Do you have any suggestions on my question or should I assume you are only here to work as a form of inefficient forum police and point fingers?
Aloha!
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The things already mentioned were what had multiple people thinking the post was spam. I'm not reciting them again. I suggest reading what what written as none of what was mentioned by myself had anything to do with the site in question being JOOMLA nor that only sites allowed to be linked being those of Drupal sites. You are inviting strawmen into the discussion. If you can't see how your original post could have been viewed as spam that's fine. As lazy as your posting but fine.
As far as whether your site will lose any SEO, who can say for sure? There are methods to protect yourself from such an event and if you had taken the time to perform a search using your favorite search engine, you would find many already existing discussions regarding such a task. Which by the way, tends to draw attention to the idea that posts may be spam (not searching for obvious questions someone would have had before). You can't possibly think your situation is unique and considering what the site in question is marketing, the fact that the question even needed to be asked sends up red flags.
Lastly, you still haven't taken the time to edit your post and move it. Without doing so you are inviting more of the community to report as spam in spite of your continued response. If you are indeed fighting simply to keep the link in place, note that you won't get any juice from drupal.org. The links are no followed.
Thank you
First you wrote "As you've chosen
to elevate this to a ridiculous level, I don't have any suggestions for you" than you edited to the current message.
Either way I thank you for your input. Not that you added much more than your negative remarks about this being spam, yet again. If you are a moderator, feel free to delete this thread, I don't care if this is a follow or do not follow link.
This was a learning experience, for sure. I won't take the time to move this thread because my goal here was just to gather opinions and although my posting was placed on the wrong category I don't see how this diminishes the value of the conversation like you do. Now the red flag is that "the question even needed to be asked". You sound like a paranoid person, seriously.
We get people spamming all
We get people spamming all the time on these forums. Literally every day.
You posted in the "Show off your Drupal site" section, with a Joomla link. It's not that the word Joomla is not allowed, it's that this is not the correct spot to be posting Joomla links, and you're correct that this section of the forum is only for Drupal sites.
I hear ya Jaypan
I hear you Jaypan, and I'm sorry about the confusion.
Still doesn't justify jumping to conclusions.
I had a genuine curiosity about your guys' CMS.
I regret coming here to even bother asking.
Feel free to delete my thread.
I am not returning to this page.
Thank you.
I had a genuine curiosity
It's not really 'our CMS' - none of us posting here are part of the Drupal association, nor Acquia. We are just users of Drupal, and we choose to post on the forums as well.