What's up with the support?

I can't speak for Jeff but as someone who also maintains Drupal extensions I can say it's a challenge to balance the generally unpaid time of maintaining and responding to support requests with work and other commitments. In this case, major disruption was triggered by the core decision to bring the Layout Plugin into core. Jeff worked in #2856162: [Roadmap] Layout Plugin to Layout Discovery on Drupal 8.3 and beyond to anticipate and communicate about those changes.

It can be frustrating when changes happen. Still, it's important that those of us using contributed code are respectful of the volunteer effort that goes into producing the solutions we use.

@gdelver@xs4all.nl

I got stuck now on D8.2.8 and cannot move to D8.3.x hence my concern

I hear you. I'm working on a guide for some of the issues I've hit when trying to upgrade, where those of us working on upgrades can compare notes. I'll post here when it's up.

Thank you, nedjo, and thanks, of course, to everyone who has the brains to work on these things! We'd be nowhere without you! :)

Hi All

I think those of us who use Adaptive Theme Framework can also try to help support adaptive theme development. :)
If your not a coder you can help in other ways. Take time to test features, Submit bug reports etc.

It's a fantastic framework. I have been using his base themes since Genesis and his support has been great.

I decided "guide" was overstating it but here's the issue with some tips from my experience so far: #2879530: Notes re updating themes to AT 8.x-1.0.

Bwolf's suggestion is a good one. While I'm not a developer, I'll do what I can like bug reports, documentation (such as nedjo's #2879530). Jeff has always been very responsive in the past. This is not like him. I hope everything is OK with him.

I agree - I haven't the brains to develop, but I can certainly test and document. Hang in there, Jeff!

My understanding of the problem is as follows:

1 - AT 8.x-1.0 cannot work fully/properly without AT Tools (or so it says)

2 - Updating to Drupal Core 8.3.2 AND Display Suite 8.x-3.1 works fine (although there can be a few remaining glitches in content type configurations). But in order to succeed, the Layout Plugin must be uninstalled.

3 - However, AT Tools needs the Layout Plugin. Uninstalling that module broke my sub-theme (as in WSOD, "white screen of death" for all views and nodes, except system pages like the default contact form and user pages that still displayed properly)

If I have enough time, I'll uninstall AT Tools before attempting another upgrade to Drupal Core 8.3.2 and Display Suite 8.x-3.1. Otherwise, I'll just sit and wait another couple of months. This is certainly the most confusing "minor" upgrade in my 15 years of working with Drupal.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Hang in there people, I've had a HELL of a year ok, Nedjo is right - it can be very difficult to balance work, life and volunteer projects and for the first time in 8 years volunteer projects had to take a back seat.

And yes, this upgrade is very confusing, even for me, I did my best to prepare for it, but I cannot always predict what will actually happen in real life, as there are many maintainers and everyone has different ideas, sometimes you win, sometimes you don't, shit happens, so we fix it, but I needed to give this a bit of time also, so core could sort it out first, then we go again, otherwise I risk spending another 40, 50, 60 hours writing code that just ends up in the rubbish bin. Again.

Thanks Jeff!