Here is the much awaited blog post to consider our options for the location of our 2015 Latin American DrupalCon. While we have looked at the pros and cons for two locations, we want you to weigh in and tell us what you think!
Before I launch in, let me first bring you up to speed. In response to what we have been hearing consistently from the community in various parts of the world, we will add a 3rd DrupalCon to the annual roster. This DrupalCon will be focused in a region in which Drupal is gaining traction, and having a Con could help further Drupal adoption. We posted this blog in the fall, outlining the criteria used to select future locations. In this process, we determined that this 3rd Con will take place over the next 3 years in Latin America, India and either China or Singapore. Since we were unsuccessful in São Paulo before, we decided that we wanted to have Latin America as the first stop in 2015.
Drupal Association Executive Director Holly Ross met with members of the Latin American community in January at Drupal Picchu. This was a fantastic meeting, with several countries represented, and it was there that São Paulo, Brazil and Bogota, Colombia were selected as the two top choices to hold this event. We’d like to pass along a big thank you to Nick Vidal (nickvidal) and Carlos Ospina (camoa) and their respective teams for their help in gathering information from both locations. I know it was a long list of questions, so, thanks to them both for the hard work in providing so many answers.
I have to say, I am thrilled with the level of enthusiasm and passion that has been shown in advocating for each location. As far as community support goes, I am confident that in either place we would have a groundswell of passionate volunteers who would help produce the event.
That being said, there are some important distinctions between the two locations. Here is a table of my findings:
Area |
Brazil |
Colombia |
Notes |
| Business Community | Large business community | Smaller business community |
This will affect sponsorship and how much revenue we can bring in |
| Travel | Further location to travel - $1,000 average flight costs | Less expensive for most of Latin Americans to get to - $300 - $600 flight | This will affect both attendance numbers and ticket price. |
| Hotels** data corrected for Brazil | Average is actually $160 per night during the Con period we would need |
Between $100 - $200 night |
This will affect who can come and afford to stay |
| Event Venue + AV |
Total: $23,925 $7,000 day = for 3 days - AV costs $975 day = $2925 |
Total: $12,000 $4,000 day for 3 days * AV included |
Colombia is less expensive, although we don’t know the quality of AV...will need to explore |
| Internet | $10,000 US for 100 MB for 3 days | $16,000 US for 100 MB for 3 days | We can probably negotiate these numbers down further |
| Catering | $27 US per person average (Lunch and one coffee break) | $20 per person average (Lunch and one coffee break) | Colombia is less expensive |
| Visa issues | Visa - needed from US, not needed for most of Latin America | Visa - not needed from US or most of Latin America | The issues with US getting visas to Brazil have been tough in the last year or so. There is concern that this will affect attendance, and make it difficult to get some of our featured speakers to the event |
| Fiscal Sponsorship | The Brazilian Drupal Association will be the Fiscal sponsor | The company SeeD will be the Fiscal sponsor |
Our business manager needs to talk with both companies to understand how this will work. But both are viable options. |
| Other Event Considerations |
Carnival happening Feb 14 - 18, 2015 The Carnival is a festival celebrating the beginning of Lent. |
Carnival Barranquilla February 14-18, 2015 - This event includes Bull fighting in Bogota. | In both countries, we need to work around these events either pushing DrupalCon into early February or waiting until after. The suggestion from both cities is to have it earlier, so people can choose to stay if they want to attend Carnival. |
Conclusions:
From our standpoint, given all the cost considerations along with travel considerations, including both average flight costs and visa considerations, it is our recommendation that we hold the February 2015 DrupalCon Latin American conference in Bogota, Colombia.
That is what we think, but we want your feedback! Tell us what you think about this idea! Are you excited about having Bogota as the Latin American Con destination? Are there any considerations we have failed to look at? Let us know your feelings soon! There is a lot of planning that has to happen between now and February of next year, so we will be finalizing this decision by end of next week.
Stephanie Torres
Community Program Manager
Drupal Association
Image credit to PlanetObserver on flickr.
En Español
Después de una larga espera, hoy podemos presentar las opciones a considerar para el lugar de celebración de la DrupalCon 2015 en Latinoamérica. Hemos hecho un resumen de los pros y contras de las dos localidades estudiadas, pero queremos que nos digáis lo que pensáis al respecto
Antes de que empiece, dejadme que os ponga al día. Como respuesta de lo que hemos ido escuchando de forma reiterada desde la comunidad a nivel global, vamos a añadir una tercera DrupalCon al calendario anual. Esta DrupalCon estará centrada en una región donde Drupal esté ganando tracción, y donde celebrar el evento podría ayudar al crecimiento de Drupal localmente. Recientemente, hemos publicado los criterios de selección para futuras localidades y en este proceso hemos determinado que esta tercera DrupalCon tendrá lugar durante los próximos tres años en Latinoamérica, India y o bien China o Singapur. Ya que la celebración de la edición en São Paulo no tuvo éxito, tiene sentido que nuestra primera parada sea Latinoamérica en 2015.
La directora ejecutiva de la Drupal Association, Holly Ross, estuvo en Enero en el Drupal Picchu reuniéndose con miembros de la comunidad latinoamericana. Fue una reunión estupenda, con multitud de países representados y gracias a estas reuniones se acotaron las dos opciones preferentes para el evento: São Paulo en Brasil y Bogota, en Colombia. Tenemos que agradecerle efusivamente, tanto a Nick Vidal (nickvidal) como a Carlos Ospina (camoa) y sus equipos, la ayuda prestada recogiendo información sobre las localidades y respondiendo a la avalancha de preguntas que les hicimos.
Debo decir que estoy muy emocionada con el nivel de entusiasmo y pasión con el que se han defendido ambas localidades. No nos queda la menor duda con respecto a que, a nivel comunidad, cualquiera de los dos lugares sería una elección excelente por la cantidad de voluntarios que ayudarían entusiasmados a que el evento fuera un éxito.
Una vez dicho esto, hemos hecho un listado de diferencias entre las dos localidades en la siguiente tabla:
Area |
Brasil |
Colombia |
Notas |
| Comunidad de negocios | Mayor comunidad en cuanto a negocio | Comunidad de negocio más reducida | Esto afectará a los patrocinios y al beneficio obtenido |
| Viaje | Destino más alejado - $1,000 de coste medio de los vuelos | Más barato para la mayoría de Latinoamérica. Coste aproximado del vuelo: $300 - $600 | Este factor afecta tanto al número de participantes como al precio de la entrada. |
| Hoteles | Entre $160 por noche en la fechas posibles para el evento. |
Entre $100 - $200 por noche |
Esto afectaría a quien puede permitirse atender. |
| Recinto del evento y coste audiovisual |
Total: $23,925 $7,000 a día = por 3 días - Coste audiovisual $975 al día = $2925 |
Total: $12,000 $4,000 al día por 3 días * Incluye el coste audiovisual |
Colombia es más barato aunque no tenemos información sobre la calidad de los medios audiovisuales y tendríamos que revisarlo. |
| Internet | $10,000 por 100MB por 3 días | $16,000 por 100 MB por 3 días | Es probable que podamos reducir este coste. |
| Cátering | $27 por persona, de media (Incluyendo comida y café) | $20 por persona, de media (Incluyendo comida y café) | Colombia es más barato |
| Visados | Visado necesario desde E.E.U.U. - no necesario desde muchas partes de Latinoamérica | Visado no necesario desde E.E.U.U. - no necesario desde muchas partes de Latinoamérica | Ha habido bastantes problemas para conseguir visado desde Estados Unidos a Brasil desde hace un año aproximadamente. Esto podría afectar al número de asistentes, dificultando la llegada de alguno de los ponentes al evento. |
| Gestiones fiscales | La asociación brasileña de Drupal sería el patrocinador para temas tributarios o fiscales. | La empresa SeeD sería el patrocinador para temas tributarios o fiscales. | Nuestro gestor de negocios deberá evaluar ambas opciones para ver cómo funcionará. Ambas son opciones viables. |
| Otras consideraciones | El carnaval se celebra del 14 al 18 de Febrero en 2015. El carnaval es un festival celebrado a principios de cuaresma | Carnaval de Barranquilla, del 14 al 18 de Febrero en 2015. Este evento incluye corridas de toros en Bogotá. | Para ambos paises, debemos gestionar cómo no colisionar con estos eventos, bien celebrando la DrupalCon a principios de Febrero o a finales. La sugerencia en ambas ciudades es celebrarla antes, para que los asistentes puedan elegir si quedarse o no para los carnavales. |
Conclusiones:
Desde nuestro punto de vista, dadas las consideraciones de costes y facilidades de viaje, incluyendo tanto los costes medios de vuelos como consideraciones con respecto al visado, nuestra recomendación es celebrar la DrupalCon de Febrero 2015 en Latinoamérica en la ciudad de Bogotá, Colombia
Esta es nuestra opinión, pero queremos las vuestras. Contadnos qué pensáis sobre la idea, ¿os parece buena idea Bogotá como destino de la DrupalCon en Latinoamérica? ¿Hay otros factores que debamos considerar y no lo hemos hecho? Decidnos algo cuanto antes ya que tendremos que empezar a planificar pronto para tenerlo todo listo en Febrero del año que viene. La decisión se tomará a finales de la semana que viene.
Stephanie Torres
Community Program Manager
Drupal Association
Image credit to PlanetObserver on flickr.
Comments
Bogota! Can't wait. I haven't been there for ages, the bicycle network is supposed be fantastic now. Tour de Drupal anyone?
Ciclopaseo drupalero por Bogotá, wow.
Please check the following information. It was posted by lnunesbr and I think it's worthy bringing it to the top:
Link to the original comment.
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IMPORTANT NOTICE
Posted by lnunesbr on March 14, 2014 at 2:42pm
With the intent of making this discussion as transparent as possible, the Brazilian Drupal Association has not only published an Open Proposal:
https://groups.drupal.org/node/413458
But now it has also published an Open Letter:
https://groups.drupal.org/node/413838
Some relevant statistics based on LinkedIn and most relevant latin american countries.
Including Mexico, but missing some small countries:
Brazil: 1878 developers (~ 29%)
Argentina: 1383 developers (~ 21%)
So, Brazil and Argentina have together ~ 50% of the latin american developers.
It should be close to real numbers. At least, it's a relevant asset.
Full report with graphic: http://goo.gl/iq6uWj
Considering the benefits for the local community (developers, companies and market); the ease to bring them; and the overall impact of the drupalcon, São Paulo seems to be the best choice.
Will be great to have a Spanish & Portuguese version of this post.
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@jmolivas
Thanks to Pedro, we've just added the blog post in Spanish. Thank you Pedro!!!
Good. Less work for me.
I live in Brazil and the price for the internet is wrong.
You can find a full duplex 100mb connection for less than 500 dollars for three days. At least in Rio and São Paulo...
The prices for the hotels are also wrong, unless you want to stay at a 4-5 stars hotel :)
Looks like someone gave you these values in R$ and you removed the "R" :)
Hi there - I appreciate your comments about costs in Brazil. These are ballpark costs, and we will certainly do more negotiating once we firmly decide on a location. We will be relying heavily on the local community to assist us with these negotiations!
The decision on the most appropriate place, I believe it is very important to have the correct information, because if a decision is made based on what is being presented, the decision may not be as assertive, as one of the most important points at being presented are the cost structures offered by each country / city.
We are available to assist in the transfer of correct information, if understood as extremely necessary.
Thanks,
Does the $500 Internet cost factor in the cost of equipment rental? My understanding is that most of the cost comes from rentals.
Hi George,
The Internet cost covers not only equipment rental costs, but also professionals on site.
We didn't research hotel prices. I believe those are 4 and 5 star hotels, which indeed are quite expensive in Sao Paulo. But the prices vary greatly and cheaper hotels are easy to find. You can find a Best Western for U$ 100.
We made an open call for quotes from the community and hopefully both Brazilians and Colombians can provide more information.
Thanks,
Nick
I believe w both did that. So we can compare apples to apples. Bogotá's prices are also for 4-5 stars.
These numbers assume 3 days of Internet and A/V, but at past Cons, the pattern has actually been for five days of Internet (3 days of conference + training day + sprint day) and 4 days of A/V (3 days of conference, plus training day). Are we assuming that DrupalCon Latin America will be shorter, or is the 3-day estimate just a placeholder to get ballpark quotes?
Hi George - and yes, we are assuming a shorter DrupalCon in Latin America. We may or may not offer Training, we are planning on 2 days of the Con itself and a final day of sprints - Probably a Wednesday - Friday time period. This is what we agreed to in our conversations with the community.
The internet connection that is needed for a DrupalCon should be much higher grade that is for regular home connections (eg. higher guaranteed service levels, onsite support). Also serving thousand+ devices in a relatively small space requires special wifi hardware and know-how, you cannot just drop in a regular wifi setup as in a cafe for example. These may significantly raise the price. I don't have local pricing information, but wanted to note that when you say the internet costs are estimated low, you considered all these factors.
In addition to the long wait times for Brazilian visas (which I've heard can be up to a couple months), visas for U.S. citizens cost $180 USD each ($160 if you apply in person): http://chicago.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/visa_fee_table.xml
For those U.S. citizens who don't already have Brazilian visas, this additional expense would need to be factored into the cost of attending the event. The Association would also need to encourage attendees for a Brazilian DrupalCon to start making their travel plans much earlier than DrupalCon attendees normally have done in the past in order to leave enough time for their visa applications to be processed.
Yes, George - this is a big concern for us.
BTW I personally miss US citizens on this topic.
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How many are expected to attend this event if it happens in Bogota? And if it happens in São Paulo?
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I'm saying that because some people already reported on this topic that only a few non latin americans came to south america on previous events.
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Please see this comment (with statistcs + chart) to see that ~ 50% of the latin americans (~ 3.2k people) can benefit if the event goes to SP:
https://association.drupal.org/comment/7598#comment-7598
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It means a straight forward benefit for ~ 50% of the latin americans. Otherwise, going to Bogotá, it reduces the chances for these 50%.
Of course it doesn't mean that all of them will attend the event, but it's *MUCH* easier for all these people.
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That's why I think we need more participation from US citizens and we also need to estimate how many US citizens should come. And considering the previous events that's why IMHO maybe the D.A. is concerned about foreign participants that perhaps shouldn't *really* affect the choice.
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PS. I'm sorry but I used dots to simulate paragraphs and give some breathing space.
Not only are the visas expensive, the bureacracy at a Brazilian embassy can be terrible, speaking from experience of 3 trips to the Washington DC embassy for 2 trips (and I came loaded with paperwork!) The majority of applicants (whether Brazilian, U.S. or other) were being turned down in what they were applying for, and even a trade commission from Annapolis (the capital of the neighboring state of Maryland) had to cancel their trip because of an inability to obtain visas. We would likely need an organized point of contact in Brazil who can issue letters of invitation to each attendee (assuming you're honest on your visa application and state the reason for your visit is a conference ;-). And yes, you need to file the application far in advance to allow for rejection, obtaining further paperwork and resubmission.
"We would likely need an organized point of contact in Brazil who can issue letters of invitation to each attendee (assuming you're honest on your visa application and state the reason for your visit is a conference ;-)"
I'll confirm more details, but I think we may be able to provide such support.
Great! Thanks stephany!!we will work hard on make this a a success. No matter where it is, as long as it is Latin America. Of course i go for Bogota. I believe it will be easier for my Latin friends to visit my city. And I'll make sure we have fun and learn a lot in my city. Go Bogota!!!
BTW I will translate the post as soon as I can, if that is ok with you Stephanie. And I know nick is already working on the Portuguese version.
Hi Carlos - Pedro beat you to the Spanish version. It is already up on the site!
Thanks so much
I think that having a DrupalCon in Latin America is a wonderful idea... I have a few thoughts to contirbute to the discussion:
a) Visas: When the DrupalCon was proposed for Brazil the last time around, I remember checking into the feasibility of going, and due to the very complicated visa requirements, not thinking any further. (Note: I can't blame Brazil -- they've basically imposed similar visa requirements on US citizens as the US has placed on their citizens. But it does make considering a trip much more complicated.) There were several of us discussing it that day on IRC -- can't remember exactly who -- but I know all of us thought it was a barrier to even thinking about going. That is just one anecdotal data point... just saying, I think it's a good thing you have visas in your table of considerations, assuming you want people from the US to attend. Also, I am not sure if/how visas affect travelers from Europe or Canada, so you might look into that for both countries?
b) Perception of safety: Another concern that I think you should address in your table is travel safety and security. In the US at least, there is a widespread perception of danger associated with Bogota and Columbia (and the US State Department still has active travel warnings -- not just alerts but warnings -- for potential travelers about kidnappings, drug gang violence, etc.). Whether this perception is appropriate or not for today (as opposed to 10-20 years ago), I think you might want to add it to your list of considerations, as it may affect people from other countries' willingness to attend a DrupalCon in Columbia (less likely, but still possible, in Sao Paulo as well?).
c) I think you also need to address what happened a few years ago when the DA announced and then canceled the previous attempt at a Latin American DrupalCon. What are the criteria for being able to actually hold it this time? Is there a minimum level of sponsorship you require in order to make the event happen, and does that differ based on the two locations? The last time around left me (and I think others?) with kind of a bad feeling, so I think it would be better to lay out the criteria ahead of time and be transparent on whether it's really going to happen or is still contingent, at all stages of planning.
We will address this further. But this perceptions are way updated. You'll see!! Y'all will be safer than those warnings imply. For now. Check twae videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJrpoEFRZLY
Dont foeget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es7NrhGi4HQ
Thank you for these comments. Very astute and appreciate you bringing them up. Let me address them each separately:
First - Visa issues in Brazil. This is probably our top concern at the Drupal Association regarding this location. While it seems things have eased up a bit in regards to US visitors, the fact that those in the US need a visa at all is a concern.
Secondly- regarding Bogota safety...yes, there has been concern associated with safety in Columbia, no doubt about it. However, the city has worked hard to make things more safe and is really encouraging tourism and creating a welcoming environment for outside conferences to come. We would take every precaution with our attendees and address these concerns more directly in the planning process.
And finally - What happened last time in Sao Paolo? I appreciate you bringing this up as well! We just felt awful about that misstep. That is precisely why we have chosen Latin America now. What I can say is that the Drupal Association has grown up a little bit since then. Believe me, the last thing we want to do is to repeat past mistakes! And we are in a position now, with more expertise on staff, and more of an understanding of the financial considerations we will need to address, to feel confident in pulling off this event.
We have every intention of making it work, and producing a successful con for the Latin American community!
Was a post-mortem done recently for Sao Paulo to see "what went wrong?" Ie, are we reasonably confident that whatever it was that forced us to cancel Sao Paulo has been addressed and won't happen again, or is there just a sense of "we're smarter now so it should be OK?"
I don't necessarily need a rundown here; as long as we know that such investigation/consideration has been done and taken into account that's sufficient. I'll trust you if you say you've done the work. :-) From a mostly-outsider perspective my perception was that attendance was way low due to visa issues and distance (Sao Paulo is further from me in Chicago than most European Cons are), but I don't know if that's what the story was internally.
Otherwise, jhodgdon neatly summarized all of the concern points I would have as well, either direction.
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I'm very happy to see this news!
it is a great to see the Drupal Association now really opening up towards other parts/continents of the world. I consider it a brave and very good step to start with Latin America after the São Paulo cancellation. It will help people to regain trust in the international community and I'm sure that, given the case that the community is involved, which I can clearly see here by the names of the persons working on both proposals and the comments here.
Thanks for all the hard work! I think that the Drupal Association as much as the Latin American community has learned so much, so this is going to be a dignified cooperation and therefore a prosperous event.
You are right crell, de need to make sure not to repeat mistakes. I wwould love to tall to you and everyone AT Chicago during midwest campo and see how as a community can help. Either is Bogota(yaay) or sao Paulo.
Darn you Spanish autocorrect!!
Darn you Spanish autocorrect!!
We are confident we can now pull off a successful event, provided the community steps up to meet us! Which both are eager and well equipped to do!
I want to stress that while *I* am not particularly afraid to visit Bogota, some others may be (I've traveled all over the world and to several other reportedly-dangerous Latin American capitol cities, including living in San Salvador for 3 months one time, so...). :)
Anyway, thanks for responding frankly to my concerns! The plans sound great, and maybe I'll even try to make it to DrupalCon this time (I don't ever go to the big North American DrupalCons any more, and Europe is pretty far for me to go, but as a fluent Spanish speaker and fairly involved member of the Drupal Core dev team, maybe I can make a contribution to this one?).
(english below)
Hay varios líderes de la comunidad muy conocidos en América Latina, pero en esta oportunidad quisiera hacer dos menciones honoríficas, en ningún order particular:
Ambos son parte de la comunidad Drupal Latino desde el inicio. Ellos trabajaron de manera consistente para hacer que sus respectivas locationes ganen tracción, y ahora están viendo el resultado de su arduo trabajo.
¡A propósito, son geniales noticias que la DA (Asociación Drupal) está decidida a hacer que el Drupalcon Latino acontezca el próximo año! Sea cual sea la decisión final, invito a que ambos: Colombia y Brasil, y toda la comunidad Drupal Latino a colaborar juntos como equipo, para hacer de Drupalcon Latino un gran éxito para toda la comunidad.
¡Viva la Drupalución!
English
There are several well known Drupal community leaders in Latin America, but this time I would like to make two honorable mentions, in no particular order:
Them both are part of the Drupal Latino community since the very beginning. They consistently worked to make their respective locations to gain traction, and now they are seeing the result of their hard work.
BTW, this is great news that DA is decided to make Drupalcon Latino to happen next year! Whatever is the final decision, I invite both Colombia and Brasil, and the whole Drupal Latino community to collaborate together as a team, in order to make Drupalcon Latino a big success for the whole community.
¡Viva la Drupalución! - no translation ;)
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DevElCuy
Thanks fernando!! This was really important yo add
Thanks Fernando, definetly the good notice is the DrupalCon will be in Latin America in 2015!
I can't believe it, we will have the first DrupalCon at Latin America.
I like so much which this event will be in Colombia because is close to Ecuador and is very cheap than Sao Paulo for me.
These are great news
Cheers Colombia and Latin America Community.
Thank you Stephanie and the Drupal Association for your commitment to spread Drupal around the world! The Drupal Latino community welcomes everyone and we look forward to receiving you at the 2015 Latin American DrupalCon!
Gracias Stephanie y la Asociación Drupal por su compromiso de difundir Drupal en todo el mundo! La comunidad Drupal Latino da la bienvenida a todos y esperamos recibir ustedes en la DrupalCon América Latina 2015!
Apoyo a Bogotá como sede del DrupalCon.
I support Bogota as the location for the DrupalCon.
All us go Bogotá! (y)
Great to see Drupalcon will be heading to Latin America - but even better to see this open, collaborative consultation and discussion. Thanks DA!
I'm outside the region, but wanted to post a suggestion that reflects how the community originally grew in Europe as that may be a useful way to approach it, which is to focus initially on building the grassroots community, before trying to attract clients and agencies. That means initially starting small, being cheap, and being easy to get to.
The rest follows the nurturing of that community.
Either country will be a great destination otherwise. Good luck to all!
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Convivio - a digital services agency
http://weareconvivio.com
English
This is a great news for the LATAM community, doesn't matter in what city the DA choose for organize this event will be huge impact in our community.
I know each one could have ideas about what city is better, after the DA decide which one is picked, remember in three years we will have again this event in LATAM.
Off course we all are really excited to have great speakers at DrupalCon in LATAM, but don't forget we have some local talents eager to share their knowledge to the rest of the community. we need encourage this talent to be part of this event not just as listener, we need them as speakers.
We can think about national DrupalCamps as a preparation for the DrupalCon our big Goal.
Although remember DrupalCon is not only for geek people, we need to invite to join us to key people from our society i.e CTO , CIO, etc of Goverment and Big Corporations, we need to stablish a good environment to encourage companies and organization to use the platform in that way we advance in the process to consolidate a Drupal environment in LATAM.
Said this, I expect see a lot of new faces and off course and use DrupalCon as an excuse to hang out with my Drupal friends.
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Esta es una gran noticia para la comunidad en latinoamerica. No importa en qué ciudad la DA eleja para organizar este evento, este evento será un enorme impacto en nuestra comunidad.
Sé que cada uno podra tener ideas acerca de lo que la ciudad es mejor, después de la DA decida cuál es la sede , recuerde en tres años vamos a tener de nuevo este evento en LATAM .
Por supuesto que todos estamos muy emocionados de tener a grandes oradores en DrupalCon en LATAM, pero no olvide que tenemos algunos talentos locales deseosos de compartir sus conocimientos con el resto de la comunidad. tenemos que fomentar este talento para ser parte de este evento no sólo como oyente, los necesitamos como ponentes.
Podemos pensar en los DrupalCamps nacionales como preparación para la DrupalCon nuestro gran objetivo .
Ademas recuerde DrupalCon está no sólo para la gente friki , tenemos que invitar a unirse a nosotros a las personas clave de nuestra sociedad es decir, CTO , CIO, etc de Gobierno y grandes empresas, tenemos que establecer un buen ambiente para alentar a las empresas y organizaciones a utilizar el plataforma de esa manera avanzaremos en el proceso de consolidar un entorno Drupal en LATAM .
Dicho esto, espero ver un montón de caras nuevas y por supuesto y utilizar DrupalCon como una excusa para pasar el rato con mis amigos de Drupal .
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Yes - enzo! We will definitely want local talent in the speakers pool. And will also need volunteers to help with every aspect of the con including folks to be on the content selection team.
I'm missing a important information, what is the capacityof the venues? This will limit the number of people that can attend, and if the price is really cheaper at Bogotá or not.
In Bogota we are talking about 400 to 500. But we can grow if need it.
So... if we think about DrupalCon we need to think in more people. The last Drupal Camp in São Paulo we had 250 Drupal Developers. So... think about it... because São Paulo is just one city and if you think in entire Brazil.... If in a Drupal Camp is possible to have 250 people. Imagine with a DrupalCon.
Joining just all people that are working in Drupal Companies in Brasil we can consider 500 people. I don't know, but São Paulo has more potencial than Bogotá to engage more people in a DrupalCon.
Tks
As pointed out here: https://groups.drupal.org/node/413458 Just the main auditorium considere in Brazil supports 800 people. Total being arround 1200~1700 people. That put we are saying that in Bogotá we have $24 per person just for AV, while in São Paulo we have $19 per person. Of courso both can be negotiated but so far I feel we need to think twice when we say Bogotá is cheaper.
Do you think Bogotá proposal could be opened ad São Paulo did so we could better explore the options?
Can someone please provide real information about the last drupal events in Brazil and Columbia?
Regards,
Cristian
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