I installed Drupal 8.1.7.
It runs behind a Varnish 4 cache.
I want to get ESI working.
I started looking for docs re ESI.
The obvious module
has no Drupal 8 support
This post implies that BigPipe, ESI & Dynamic Page Cache are different things
Drupal 8 Module of the Week: BigPipe
This concept is essential for BigPipe, but also for ESI and it's also what enabled Drupal 8’s Dynamic Page Cache.
This post says that the ESI discussion was a basis for 'Dries’ "Making Drupal 8 fly" blog post'
Somewhere in mid-February, Dries asked me what the state was of ESI support in Drupal 8, whether partial pre-rendering was possible, and so on. I replied in two ways: in short ("No, ESI is not fully supported yet"8) and comprehensively, describing how full ESI support was now more feasible than ever, which other exciting things are possible with the render- and caching-related improvements, and so on. That e-mail I sent formed the foundation of Dries’ "Making Drupal 8 fly" blog post :)
But the referenced post
doesn't even mention ESI.
I'm running around in circles :-/
Is ESI available & ready in Drupal8?
Where are the docs for it?
Are there any uptodate posts that talk about the details of configuring ESI + BigPipe + DynamicPageCache ?
Comments
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ESI will require the ESI module in D8 as was needed in D7.
stating ESI.module has no support in D8 is misleading. There is no port yet, yes. But there is support.
The above quoted from the ESI.module project page.
Bigpipe for D8 is @ https://www.drupal.org/project/big_pipe
So no ESI module, no ESI
So no ESI module, no ESI functionality?
I don't really get the 'no port, but support' :-/ There's no ESI module available in Drupal8 now, so there's no 'supported release' to support, right?
I'm aware of BigPipe from reading and quoting the article above. Iiuc, the 'project' module at https://www.drupal.org/project/big_pipe is not relevant anymore since it's included in core now.
By re-quoting the deprecated big_pipe URL are you saying it's still needed for ESI? Beyond just whatever's in core?
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IMO development is support. until such time as the project page identifies that a Drupal 8 port won't be forthcoming and is no longer actively maintained (project page indicates its actively maintained and the D7 commit log shows activity as recently as 5 months ago), I wouldn't consider it unsupported. I am surprised there isn't at the very least a 8.x -dev roll of the module but I didn't dig to see if anything was available via git that isn't widely known about.
My link to big pipe was simply for a start for your in your documentation quest. When I briefly scanned the documentation link on the project page I noted "Faster with zero configuration! BigPipe is able to make things faster automatically thanks to Drupal 8's improved render pipeline & render API, and in particular thanks to the cacheability metadata and auto-placeholdering." This indicates to me there isn't anything to configure with reference to bigpipe.
I'm just going by what the
I'm just going by what the docs refer to when they talk about support
https://www.drupal.org/documentation/releases/types
Ie, releases.
But I don't want to argue about silly semantics. There's no module, and no functionality. That's the answer to my question.
Like in my OP, I already found & read the big_pipe info that's there.
Sure, it's on by default. But if there's a couple of things I learned in my week or so of Drupal is, lots of modules don't worry much about their interactions with others, and when it comes to caching there's lots more moving parts that there are good documentation posts.
Anyway, no ESI. Which is a big problem that I need to figure out.
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Since the ESI module for
Since the ESI module for Drupal8 doesn't exist I 've been looking for any alternative solutions. Assuming that no ESI == no auth user caching.
But putting together bits and pieces that doesn't seem to be exactly true.
If you read the following clips
and/or
and/or
and/or
all seem to "do" authenticated user page caching
http://buytaert.net/why-the-big-architectural-changes-in-drupal-8
http://www.qed42.com/blog/bigpipe-drupal8
https://events.drupal.org/neworleans2016/sessions/fastly-and-drupal8
https://www.finalist.nl/techblog/2016/05/performance-boosting-in-drupal-8-just-got-better/
So, is ESI even needed anymore to do Auth'd User caching in Drupal8?
If not, which one of those ^ is the right solution?