Drupal.org upgraded to Drupal 5 release candidate

By Dries on 7 Jan 2007 at 16:31 UTC

We just upgraded drupal.org from Drupal 4.7 to the Drupal 5 release candidate. The upgrade went like we expected -- smooth. Kudos to all the people who helped make this possible!

So in good Drupal tradition, we get to "eat our own dog food" before a major release. Drupal.org served more than 9 million pages last month (36 million hits) so this upgrade should give Drupal 5 a good last workout and allows us to evaluate the readiness, snappiness, sweetness and overall happiness of the final Drupal 5 release.

If you run into a Drupal.org problem, make sure to report it to the infrastructure team (or to the webmasters team).

Comments

Congrats

filiptc commented 7 January 2007 at 16:35

Let's hope module developers & translators start focusing and porting their work to drupal 5.

Cheers,
Phil

It seems faster! Alexandre

alexandreracine commented 7 January 2007 at 16:36

It seems faster!

Alexandre Racine

www.salsamontreal.com La référence salsa à Montréal
www.alexandreracine.com - mon site perso

It seems a lot faster.

Caleb G2 commented 7 January 2007 at 17:22

Am wondering if that is all due to Drupal 5 or if it has to do with any server upgrades and/or reboot. Time will tell I guess.

=====
Turnkey Drupal solutions

Sunday

Dries commented 7 January 2007 at 17:35

Also keep in mind that it is Sunday ... during the weekend we get 1/3 less traffic/visitors compared to week days. :-)

That said, Drupal 5 should be faster as we implemented a number of performance improvements. We'll have to wait a couple of days before we can draw any conclusions. Time will tell.

Improvements

computercornerplus commented 7 January 2007 at 19:53

Dries, if everything goes ok, could you make a list, in detail, of the improvements that were made? Thanks!

Performance follow-up

Dries commented 7 January 2007 at 21:48

I'll follow up with more information on Drupal 5's performance compared to Drupal 4.7. Time permitting, of course.

Subscribing to this thread

Leeteq commented 9 January 2007 at 12:50

Performance related information would be very interesting/useful.
(what is being used, settings)

Great work.

.
--
( Evaluating the long-term route for Drupal 7.x via BackdropCMS at https://www.CMX.zone )

Definitly is much faster, at

yahmaster commented 13 January 2007 at 01:24

Definitly is much faster, at least to me.

yahmaster

Congratulation, good work, i

toma commented 7 January 2007 at 16:40

Congratulation, good work, i already take the step to 5,0 for some of my site not having a lot of contrib modules, i am waiting for french translation of dupal as most of my site in french
---
PHP Maroc
www.php.ma
drupal Maroc
www.drupal.ma
Biladi
www.biladi.ma

Wow

psicomante commented 7 January 2007 at 17:51

Great news, we can be glad of Drupal5. Good work!

Stable release is imminent :)

___________________
Katapekkia | Multiblog Sociale
Psicomante Blog
Psicomante's Themes for Drupal

___________________
Computer Graphics & Real Time Rendering
Drupal Development & Computer Graphics

Actually, I heard a little bird mention

Caleb G2 commented 7 January 2007 at 17:59

that there would be a RC2 first.

=====
Turnkey Drupal solutions

Not so little...

chx commented 7 January 2007 at 22:38

Quite tall, that bird is :)
--
The news is Now Public | Drupal development: making the world better, one patch at a time. | A bedroom without a teddy is like a face without a smile.

--
Drupal development: making the world better, one patch at a time. | A bedroom without a teddy is like a face without a smile.

Great work. Thanks to

techczech commented 7 January 2007 at 17:55

Great work. Thanks to everyone for making this happen. I immediately did a clickaround and everything seems to work as it used to and as it should. I did notice significant speed improvement (the site had been occasionally sluggish in recent months) both when logged in and as visitor. It was also nice to see the CSS preprocessor in action - it seems to do the trick.

Are there any plans to update the theme to reflect the new release? Not that it needs much improvement but perhaps some small change to make it look in line with Drupal's new default theme would be appropriate. I don't have any idea what this would look like but neither could I envision Garland looking both so modern and distinctively Drupal.

______________________
Dominik Lukes
http://www.dominiklukes.net
http://www.hermeneuticheretic.net
http://www.czechupdate.com
http://www.techwillow.com

I think that the gradients

StevenSokulski commented 7 January 2007 at 18:51

I think that the gradients and default color scheme in Garland are probably quite enough to draw ties between the two without developing any confusion.

CSS preprocessor

xmacinfo

he/him

French

Canada

commented 7 January 2007 at 20:52

The CSS preprocessor is a good idea. But I think it goes a bit too far: it removes all line returns. When trying to read the processed CSS file everything is shonw on one line.

Is this configurable?

/*_*/
http://www.xmacinfo.com

configurable??

mfer commented 8 January 2007 at 00:33

The CSS preprocessor is a speed improvement for live sites. If you are looking for an easily readable CSS sheet turn off the preprocessor. There will be a performance hit but it will be readable.

It is configurable, as you can turn it on and off. It is, also, configurable for devs as they can specify with the drupal_add_css function if their added CSS file is preprocessed or not.

For any theme development it is recommended that the preprocessor be turned off.

--
Matt
http://www.mattfarina.com

If you need to read the CSS

m3avrck commented 8 January 2007 at 15:39

If you need to read the CSS on a live site, use Firebug: http://getfirebug.com/ (this coming from the guy that wrote the CSS preprocessor ;-))

Developing themes

xmacinfo

he/him

French

Canada

commented 8 January 2007 at 20:16

Thanks for the information. I'm already using Firebug and noticed that it can read preprocessed CSS files. I hope other tools will be, too.

However, I mainly develop themes and I'm glad to see that there are ways to turn this off and turn it back on later.

/*_*/
http://www.xmacinfo.com

Development tip

Steven commented 9 January 2007 at 04:28

Note that the CSS preprocessor will not notice if you edit your site's stylesheets. So, always turn off the preprocessor when doing development or tweaks. So, you don't really need to worry about making preprocessed stylesheets readable.

For a quick CSS cache wipe, delete all files under /files/css.
--
If you have a problem, please search before posting a question.

Great. So the production

newms commented 7 January 2007 at 19:27

Great. So the production release of Drupal 5.0 is almost here! Is this new upgrade why I don't see the "My disussions" link on the forums page?

newms

--

Chill35 commented 7 January 2007 at 19:35

Is this new upgrade why I don't see the "My discussions" link on the forums page?

Yes that's why.

I am not sure... should this be reported ? It's not really a bug, is it ?!? More like a feature that was not ported ?!?

Now we just click on 'Recent posts' in our Navigation block to access our discussions.

Caroline

Not a bug

RobRoy commented 8 January 2007 at 17:51

This was taken out since the tracker wasn't working as intended after the code freeze. Will be back in for D6.
--
Rob
Founder and Director
Electronic Insight Corporation

Learn how you can contribute to Drupal.

Planet Drupal sees in double

xmacinfo

he/him

French

Canada

commented 7 January 2007 at 22:48

A lot of entries in Planet Drupal are now published twice. I had the same behavior on a personal site upgraded from 4.7.3 to Drupal 5 beta 1 some weeks ago.

See: http://drupal.org/planet

/*_*/
http://www.xmacinfo.com

Everything is working great,

US421 commented 8 January 2007 at 03:19

Everything is working great, really snappy. Outstanding work. I can't wait to get my sites upgraded.

Modules by name problem

jbrauer commented 8 January 2007 at 05:53

Drupal.org works great.

I had a problem but I'm not sure if it has to do with the upgrade or my crazy DirecWay connection. Maybe others can see if the same problem exists.

When I go to the Modules page on Downloads and then to view by name I cannot change to view 5.x modules. It stays on 4.7. Once I logged in (instead of browsing anonymously) all seemed to work properly. DirecWay does crazy cache things so that could certainly be the issue.

-----------------------------------------
Blog: Adding Understanding
Web Services: Brauer Ranch

Going here

alexandreracine commented 8 January 2007 at 07:01

Going here :
http://drupal.org/project/Modules/name

gives this :

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 951013 bytes) in /var/www/drupal.org/htdocs/themes/bluebeach/page.tpl.php on line 60

Here is the issue : http://drupal.org/node/107621

Alexandre Racine

www.salsamontreal.com La référence salsa à Montréal
www.alexandreracine.com - mon site perso

Modules by category problem

webmost commented 8 January 2007 at 13:35

I have the exact opposite problem from Josh. Modules are filtered by 5.x and I cannot get to any 4.7 modules. OTOH, just like him, when I log in, the problem goes away.

I must say the stark paucity of modules available for 5.x would certainly steer me away from Drupal if I were a newbie looking for a CMS.

What paucity?

KarenS commented 11 January 2007 at 17:27

'stark paucity of modules available for 5.x' ??? -- I just checked the downloads page and counted 178 modules available for 5.x. (My count may be off by a bit. It is a long list.) That sounds pretty healthy to me, especially for a version that is not even released yet :-)

known bug, please use the issue tracker

dww

we/he/they

commented 9 January 2007 at 00:03

this was originally reported here (long ago, this has nothing to do with the upgrade to 5.0-RC, in fact):

http://drupal.org/node/86806

i thought i got it working during the D5 port, but the lack of people testing things on scratch.drupal.org meant that we only saw it working for logged in (authenticated) users, not the failure case for anonymous visitors. in fact, it *does* work now once you log in, which is already an improvement (so quit your whining!). ;) (just kidding).

that said, webchick, killes and i discussed a solution that should hopefully work for anonymous users (where the fact that drupal.org pages are cached is what's causing the grief):

http://drupal.org/node/107813

so, if you want to help, please keep an eye on that issue, help review the changes, help test them once they're installed on scratch.drupal.org (it'll be listed there when it's ready for testing), etc.

in the future, i encourage you to do what the original post says and submit issues to the appropriate issue tracker, instead of posting comments here:

"If you run into a Drupal.org problem, make sure to report it to the infrastructure team (or to the webmasters team)."

your comments here have the following disadvantages to issues in the queue:
a) they're easier to lose
b) you can't mark a comment "duplicate" or reclassify it
c) you can't track progress as easily
d) you can't assign the issue to someone
...

plus, if you at least look at the issue queues linked to above, you might notice other people have already reported a similar problem and you can just add something there, instead of making a whole new duplicate issue.

thanks,
-derek

___________________
3281d Consulting

Problem

bessone commented 8 January 2007 at 08:44

Hi,

i have this problem in the page:

http://drupal.org/project/Modules/name

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 475507 bytes) in /var/www/drupal.org/htdocs/themes/bluebeach/page.tpl.php on line 60

i guess you need to reconfigure php.ini.

Saluti
BES

I think that adding pager to

restyler commented 8 January 2007 at 14:10

I think that adding pager to the modules section will fix that. The amount of modules is really huge, ~630 if I'm not mistaken.

RussianWebStudio: improving the web

Excellent work, great

Robardi56 commented 8 January 2007 at 10:38

Excellent work, great !!!

Just a note: i've been logged out when initially loading the upgraded drupal.org site.

Brakkar

Yes, it will be interesting

BioALIEN commented 8 January 2007 at 12:24

Yes, it will be interesting to see the direct comparison between 4.7 and 5.x on the Drupal.org site. Maybe even a bench mark similar to how Dries compared Drupal 4.7 vs Joomla!

------------------------------
BioALIEN
Buy/Sell/Trade with other webmasters: WebMasterTrader.com

Great news

bs commented 8 January 2007 at 13:34

Congratulations for another milestone in Drupal history. I have small doubt reg. upgrade, when I visited Drupal.org I saw fatal error messages which makes me uncomfortable. Can’t you make it smoother where no one can notice it?
PS. My comment is just out of curiosity.

Thank you

alex_b commented 8 January 2007 at 14:04

Just realized it from the new grips on the text areas before I read your post, Dries.

A huge THANKS to everybody who has put in their efforts for taking Drupal to the next step!

Alex

problem

gnat commented 8 January 2007 at 15:24

glad to see the site up and running on 5.

however i looked in last night and got a fatal error, came back in a few minutes and there was a site down for maintenance page. this morning when i went to look at drupal.org again, i got the same page.

I had to delete my cookies for this domain in order to get the new drupal 5 site it to work.

Can't wait to see some of my

pamphile commented 8 January 2007 at 16:53

Can't wait to see some of my favorite modules in 5.0 flavour.

Marcel
http://01motors.com - cars for sale in Trinidad and Tobago

Amazing... a lot faster than

Duplika commented 8 January 2007 at 17:59

Amazing... a lot faster than I thought.
--
Duplika | http://www.duplika.net

Looks good :). Had a problem

Onlinehandle commented 8 January 2007 at 18:29

Looks good :). Had a problem while registering though, I didn't receive any activation e-mail. Kind of weird since I could request a password reset and received e-mail for that.

Whoa

Chill35 commented 8 January 2007 at 22:59

I was giving you a link to submit an issue : http://drupal.org/node/add/project-issue

(Project : drupal.org webmasters.... "account problems")

I get when accessing that link :

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/drupal.org/htdocs/contributions/modules/lists/lists.module on line 48

And when I submit my post I get the same error.

Internet connection reset with that!

I had to rewrite...

Hope this will be sent..

Caroline

this was unrelated, and now fixed

dww

we/he/they

commented 8 January 2007 at 23:15

sorry, that was from trying to fix another bug. now resolved.

___________________
3281d Consulting

Same thing here

dsp1 commented 8 January 2007 at 21:57

when changing the pulldown from 4.7 to 5.x it will not show 5.x modules.

Document upgrade procedure?

jmarkantes commented 8 January 2007 at 23:18

I'd be very curious if you guys could document your upgrade procedure. I'm always paranoid doing those things and usually end up duplicating or triplicating much of the energy just so I have several roll-back points. Probably putting more effort than needed into it. With an impending 5.0 upgrade in the near future, I'd like to pull it off as smoothly as it sounds you guys did it.

Thanks!
Jason

CVS/SVN

Uwe Hermann commented 9 January 2007 at 00:57

One thing that helps me personally a lot is to put the whole site (files + database dump) in version control (CVS or SVN or similar). That way you really cannot mess up too much - you can always revert to older versions easily, view diffs of what you changed etc. etc.

HTH, Uwe.
--
hermann-uwe.de | crazy-hacks.org | unmaintained-free-software.org

UPGRADE.txt

mfer commented 9 January 2007 at 01:49

The new version of the UPGRADE.txt file has some straight forward details that should walk you through step by step. You can get it here.

--
Matt
http://www.mattfarina.com

We just put up a video the other day...

webchick

she/they

English

Vancouver 🇨🇦

commented 9 January 2007 at 02:12

http://www.lullabot.com/videocast/upgrading_from_drupal_4_7_x_to_drupal_5_x

It talks about the steps you need to perform.

Search Returns Small Amount of Results

cghobbs commented 9 January 2007 at 01:27

Great job with Drupal 5. I am excited for the production release.

When I search for something like "views theme" which I know should return a tonne of results it only returns about 4 or so. Is this something to do with the upgrade?

Works fine for me

Steven commented 9 January 2007 at 04:34

The search is fully indexed (and did not change signifcantly from 4.7 to 5.0), and it works fine by my tests. It even picked up your post:

http://drupal.org/search/node/views+theme

It's just an uncommon combination most likely.

--
If you have a problem, please search before posting a question.

+1

nisguy commented 9 January 2007 at 21:02

I've also noticed search not returning results that I'd expect it to. For example, i just searched for "moderation after edit" and it came up with one irrelevant result. Also searched for "unpublish after editing" and had no results.

There were a couple other things I've searched for also with little results, but I can't remember what search terms I used.

Perhaps the site is being re-indexed?

I am also having problems

spankee commented 9 January 2007 at 22:00

I am also having problems with searching this site.
I tried searching for "xoops" and nothing turns up. The same search last week showed results.
Searching for "site:drupal.org xoops" on Google turns up 1,300 results.

Also, why do I have to hit "preview comment" before being able to "post comment"? Should there not be both options while posting?
Patrick

...

sepeck commented 10 January 2007 at 00:22

Please report issues per the original post as indicated in the original post with examples. Please search for existing issues first and include repeatable tests if possible.

Both options are available with Drupal, Drupal.org requires you to preview your comments before submitting. This is not a change from existing behavior.

-Steven Peck
---------
Test site, always start with a test site.
_{Drupal Best Practices Guide -|- Black Mountain}

-Steven Peck
---------
Test site, always start with a test site.
_{Drupal Best Practices Guide}

Contact page is missing

jacauc commented 9 January 2007 at 05:41

I would be glad to submit an issue for this, but I'm not sure where to place it:

The contact page under user profiles are missing:
http://drupal.org/user/22548/contact

I also mentioned this earlier when 5.0 was installed on s.d.o: http://drupal.org/node/105004#comment-183164

not missing, access denied -- big difference

dww

we/he/they

commented 9 January 2007 at 06:24

the contact tabs exist and work fine on 2 conditions:

1) you log in
2) the user you're trying to contact has enabled their contact form

so, if you go to my contact page as an anonymous user, you'll get "Access denied". if you log in, you'll get a working form, that will in fact send me email.

please try to include as many details as possible when reporting a problem (e.g. "when i [am vs. am not] logged in, and i visit [some page] then [some message is displayed] instead of what i'm expecting [for it to behave like this...]").

again, it's better to submit an issue to the wrong project or component than not to submit one at all. it's easy (even easier after the upgrade, in fact) for those of us that maintain/improve all this code to reclassify an issue to another project than to sort through long forum posts like this looking for issues and submitting them to the right place.

thanks,
-derek

p.s. if you submit a Drupal core issue you'll notice one of the options under "Components" is called "contact.module" -- that'd be the right place for something like a "contact" tab... ;)

___________________
3281d Consulting

small correction.. 3 conditions...

webchick

she/they

English

Vancouver 🇨🇦

commented 9 January 2007 at 06:38

3) you're not looking at your own profile*

This was a change made in Drupal 5, since it doesn't make a lot of sense for you to contact yourself. ;)

* Unless you have 'administer user' permissions; then you can see everyone's contact form.

Has the latest move to

rszrama commented 11 January 2007 at 19:10

Has the latest move to Drupal 5.0 on d.o also seen the demise of the Recent forum posts block? I found that to be particularly handy but can't find it at all any more...

Use "Recent posts" on the nav block...

webchick

she/they

English

Vancouver 🇨🇦

commented 11 January 2007 at 20:11

It points to the same thing.

We removed the link because it does _not_ bring up only forum topics, but everything, which was a "bug" but fixing tracker module so that it could bring up only forum topics (or blogs or..) was seen as too big of a feature change so late in the cycle. So it should be back for Drupal 6.x, and actually working this time. :)