'Minimum' install profile [#261882]

I think we should add more dummy content to the default installation profile - participants at the UMN usability testing asked for this, and it's been mentioned elsewhere. I've opened another issue to enable a 'tags' vocabulary by default here: http://drupal.org/node/261869

The main issue with adding dummy content and settings to default.profile however, is that people installing Drupal other than for the first couple of times will have to sit there deleting it before they can get any work done. Attached is a 'Drupal Advanced" profile - which is just the default profile with nearly everything removed, no content types, no optional modules enabled.

Having both a 'default' and 'advanced' profile would be consistent with a lot of desktop software - where you click an advanced option to install a lighter set of options and set up your own preferences. We might want to change 'advanced' to 'minimum' or something.

Attached is a new advanced.profile which should go in profiles/advanced (you'll need to make the folder). I won't make a proper patch until there's been some feedback, but this at least gives an idea what it'd look like. Note that at the moment, this doesn't really remove all that much, but I'm hoping we can add more things to the default profile as time goes on.

Comment	File	Size	Author
#26	profiles.patch	9.51 KB	Dave Reid
#26
#25	profiles.zip	7.99 KB	Xano
#24	rename_install_profiles_3.patch	5.08 KB	Xano
#24
#20	rename_install_profiles_2.patch	5.14 KB	Xano
#20
#18	rename_install_profiles.patch	5.22 KB	Xano
#18
#13	expert.profile.txt	3.97 KB	catch
#13	changelog.patch	752 bytes	catch
#13
#9	minimum.profile.txt	3.98 KB	catch
#7	advanced.profile.txt	3.94 KB	catch
#2	advanced.profile.txt	3.94 KB	catch
	advuserprofile.patch	3.05 KB	catch

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Comments

Comment #1

chx CreditAttribution: chx commented 23 May 2008 at 11:41

I like it but dblog imo needs to be there.

Comment #2

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CreditAttribution: catch commented 23 May 2008 at 11:58

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advanced.profile.txt	3.94 KB

I considered leaving dblog but wasn't sure about leaving only one module, that's probably the main candidate for leaving enabled and would be fine with me.

By the way, that patch is completely errant here's the file I meant to upload.

Comment #3

macgirvin CreditAttribution: macgirvin commented 23 May 2008 at 22:33

Comment #4

Dries CreditAttribution: Dries commented 14 June 2008 at 06:56

I'd support this. It would be a great thing to do. Re-roll and commit? I'm sure we'll be refining this install profile over time.

Comment #5

catch

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CreditAttribution: catch commented 14 June 2008 at 08:58

OK here it is with 'dblog' included. Just noticed that locale gets enabled anyway though, so do we need to add a task at the end to disable it? Leaving at needs work (and still not a patch, not sure how to add folders in cvs).

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CreditAttribution: catch commented 14 June 2008 at 08:58

Comment #7

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CreditAttribution: catch commented 14 June 2008 at 08:59

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advanced.profile.txt	3.94 KB

Comment #8

alpritt CreditAttribution: alpritt commented 20 June 2008 at 12:14

The rename to something like 'minimum' is a good idea I think. It's not advanced in the same way that desktop applications have advanced modes (in fact it is frequently the opposite as it often means enabling more features). 'Minimum' describes what the install profile actually is.

Comment #9

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CreditAttribution: catch commented 20 June 2008 at 13:40

Title:	'Advanced user' profile	» 'Minimum' install profile
Status:	Needs work	» Needs review

File	Size
minimum.profile.txt	3.98 KB

Here it is as minimum.profile - and with locale disabled in minimum_profile_tasks()

Might need some more tweaking, but back to review to get some feedback.

Comment #10

Dries CreditAttribution: Dries commented 20 June 2008 at 16:50

It looks to me as it is too minimal. Wasn't the goal to create some dummy data and to setup a vocabulary?

Comment #11

Dries CreditAttribution: Dries commented 20 June 2008 at 17:00

Ah, I get it now. The idea is to add stuff to the default profile, and to keep the minimum profile the minimum profile. Makes sense.

Comment #12

Dries CreditAttribution: Dries commented 4 July 2008 at 07:44

I'd suggest two changes though:

1. Let's rename 'minimum' to 'expert' as that better communicates the target audience and looks at it from an end-user point of view.
2. Let's add an entry to CHANGELOG.txt.

If you do a re-roll, I'll commit it the same day. ;)

Comment #13

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CreditAttribution: catch commented 4 July 2008 at 09:45

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File	Size
changelog.patch	752 bytes

expert.profile.txt	3.97 KB

How can I resist an offer like that :)

Here's expert.profile as a .txt file (not sure how to roll a new folder into a patch), and a patch for CHANGELOG.txt

I'm still not happy with locale.module being enabled then immediately disabled again afterwards, but don't see a way 'round this the way profiles currently work.

Comment #14

Dries CreditAttribution: Dries commented 5 July 2008 at 10:58

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Needs review

» Fixed

Committed to CVS HEAD.

This opens the doors to add more things to the default profile and/or to create additional install profiles for core. It also helps set an example for more install profiles in the contributed modules repository.

Comment #15

Anonymous (not verified) CreditAttribution: Anonymous commented 23 July 2008 at 10:56

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Fixed

» Closed (fixed)

Automatically closed -- issue fixed for two weeks with no activity.

Comment #16

Xano

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 12 September 2008 at 07:48

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Closed (fixed)

» Active

There are two profiles called 'Drupal' now, which may be confusing.
Beginning users that know how Drupal works, but don't consider themselves experts probably don't want dummy data, but perhaps also don't check out the expert profile since they think it's not meant for them.

I would change the profile names to the following:

Default: Enables some basic Drupal functionality and adds dummy data.
Custom: Enables only minimum functionality.

Comment #17

catch

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CreditAttribution: catch commented 14 September 2008 at 11:26

I'd be fine with such a change. It also mirrors how desktop software does this.

Comment #18

Xano

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 14 September 2008 at 11:45

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Active

» Needs review

File	Size
rename_install_profiles.patch	5.22 KB

Here's the patch that applies the changes as mentioned in #16.

Comment #19

14 September 2008 at 11:52

Title:	'Minimum' install profile	» 'Minimum' install profile
Status:	Needs review	» Needs work

Patch failed to apply. More information can be found at http://testing.drupal.org/node/14338. If you need help with creating patches please look at http://drupal.org/patch/create

Comment #20

Xano

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 14 September 2008 at 12:52

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rename_install_profiles_2.patch	5.14 KB

I justed tried patching this version against the latest dev and it works. I couldn't figure out how to let the patch delete the 'Expert' profile though.

Comment #21

Xano

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 21 September 2008 at 15:15

Status:

Needs work

» Needs review

Comment #22

CorniI CreditAttribution: CorniI commented 27 September 2008 at 22:31

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Needs review

» Reviewed & tested by the community

Kaaskop wanted to know if this patch still applies cleanly to HEAD, and yes it does, so webchick here we go :)

Comment #23

webchick

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Vancouver 🇨🇦

CreditAttribution: webchick commented 27 September 2008 at 22:47

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Reviewed & tested by the community

» Needs work

If we're changing the name, we ought to change the function names to match.

Comment #24

Xano

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 27 September 2008 at 23:25

Assigned:	catch	» Xano
Status:	Needs work	» Needs review

File	Size
rename_install_profiles_3.patch	5.08 KB

Comment #25

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 10 October 2008 at 18:32

File	Size
profiles.zip	7.99 KB

I attached a zipped version of the modified /profiles directory. Since I cannot create a patch for removed and added files somebody else has got to do this.

Comment #26

Dave Reid

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CreditAttribution: Dave Reid commented 10 October 2008 at 20:12

File	Size
profiles.patch	9.51 KB

Here's the patch for HEAD that adds and deletes files.

Comment #27

keith.smith CreditAttribution: keith.smith commented 10 October 2008 at 20:25

Title:

'Minimum' install profile

» 'Minimum' install profile

Comment #28

Anonymous (not verified) CreditAttribution: Anonymous commented 12 November 2008 at 11:50

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Needs review

» Needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

Comment #29

Xano

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 15 November 2008 at 15:41

Could somebody update that last patch? It's my code, but I'm no good at creating patches that add or delete files.

Comment #30

Xano

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 21 November 2008 at 09:23

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Needs work

» Needs review

I can confirm this patch still works with the latest HEAD. I think the patch failed automatic testing due to known problems with HEAD a few days ago.

Comment #31

Xano

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CreditAttribution: Xano commented 2 December 2008 at 15:02

Somehow people (Keith? :-P ) started working on a similar issue: #297181: Modify descriptions on initial installation form.. Are going through with this one or do we let it be like it is now?

Comment #32

keith.smith CreditAttribution: keith.smith commented 2 December 2008 at 15:08

Oops. I was indeed unaware of this issue, or would have tried to take it into account when changing those names and descriptions in the other issue. I haven't read through this issue yet, so I'm not sure how, of if, it fits in. I'll read through it though.