[10:05] --> You have joined the channel #drupal-docs (n=kathleen@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:05] *** The channel topic is "This channel is for discussing Drupal documentation. Everyone with an account on Drupal.org can get started helping out right now: http://drupal.org/node/302203. The doc challenge for February is comment cleaning: http://snipurl.com/b95xg | http://drupal.org/handbook/comments". [10:05] *** The topic was set by chx on 02/03/2009 09:24:13 PM. [10:05] *** Channel modes: no messages from outside [10:05] *** This channel was created on 01/27/2009 12:28:39 AM. [10:05] <-- opusIV_ has left this server ("Ex-Chat"). [10:05] --> mu5a5hi has joined this channel (n=jephilli@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:07] --> j_matthew_s has joined this channel (n=matthews@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:08] editing this page: http://drupal.org/node/135589 [10:08] <-- j_matthew_s has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). [10:08] --> j_matthew_s has joined this channel (n=matthews@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:08] got knocked off the network. [10:08] <-- flickerfly has left this server ("gone..."). [10:09] --> benjamin-agaric has joined this channel (n=I3IVIIVI@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:09] --> Ki has joined this channel (i=424ed98b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-72cfac5e724c9725). [10:09] --> flickerfly has joined this channel (n=Josiah@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:09] <-- mib_3p110aph has left this channel. [10:10] <-- Ki has left this channel. [10:10] Taxonomy rough draft: Vocabulary = Level [10:10] Beginner [10:10] Intermediate [10:10] Advanced [10:10] Vocabulary = Audience [10:10] <-- j_matthew_s has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). [10:10] User [10:10] Coder/Developer [10:10] Designer/Themer [10:10] flickerfly: ping [10:10] --> j_matthew_s has joined this channel (n=matthews@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:10] Here's what the crew working on taxonomy has come up with for audiences. [10:11] We're going to have two separate vocabularies for Audiences [10:11] Level: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced [10:11] david strauss: can I send the taxonomy to you to implement on the documentation pages, please? [10:11] johnvsc: pong [10:11] Audience: User, Coder/Developer, Designer/Themer [10:11] Is anybody working on a style guide? [10:11] Any feedback on those vocabularies? [10:11] --> mib_6lqq3g has joined this channel (i=424ed98b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bb461f4adaad6ce6). [10:12] palantetech: a designer and a themer are really different beasts imho [10:12] I am working on the style guide right now. [10:12] flickerfly: I hear you. What do you suggest? [10:12] vfranklyn: Might I suggest reversing the Coder/Developer and the Designer/Themer? It's been a long standing tradition that there's Developer/Coders, Themer/Designers, and also Site Admins [10:12] the designer deals with the graphics and the themer deals with making the graphics fit drupal [10:12] most code marked that would be themer [10:13] and designers don't care [10:13] so separate them? [10:13] tgeller: http://drupal.org/node/377274 [10:13] <-- stella has left this channel. [10:13] style guide - if anyone is interested - here's the URL of the target guide: http://drupal.org/node/338208, and here is the new info that i'm in the process of merging into it: http://drupal.org/node/377274 [10:13] flickerfly: Understood. Would you split those into two separate terms? Do something else entirely? [10:13] flickerfly: I agree that themeres and designers are VERY different, but in this case, the handbook information will prolly apply to both of them? [10:13] --> bmadore has joined this channel (n=bmadore@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:13] I'd say just split them [10:14] if the handbook info applies to both apply both terms [10:14] WE have to be careful not to have a page that's only written for themers. [10:14] i am editing /node/338208 in fits and spurts, a section at a time. [10:14] but I'd hope it usually wouldn't apply to both [10:14] ahh, I see where you're going with that [10:14] cool [10:14] do it. split them [10:14] --> keithsmith has joined this channel (n=spam@drupal.org/user/85980/view). [10:15] --> PatriciaBarden has joined this channel (n=webmaste@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:15] --> ben-agaric has joined this channel (n=I3IVIIVI@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:15] --> darthsteven has joined this channel (n=darthste@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:15] OK: So Audience vocabulary would be: Site Users, Site Administrators, Themers, Designers, Developers/Coders [10:16] And Level vocabulary: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced [10:16] Excellent :-) [10:16] <-- PatriciaBarden has left this channel. [10:16] <-- benjamin-agaric has left this server (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). [10:17] --> PatriciaBarden has joined this channel (n=webmaste@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:17] --> redndahead_ has joined this channel (n=chatzill@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:17] Working on comment roll up. Someone asked for advise and it was not answered. Does anybody want to take a look at the page and see if they can help? http://drupal.org/node/144758 [10:18] Taylesia: will take a look :) [10:18] would like to work on comment at http://drupal.org/node/326601 -- is anyone else working on that? [10:19] @all: If a page doesn't have an edit tab on it, it's because that page is only accessible to Documentation Managers due to it's specialized text format. [10:19] PatriciaBarden: You might just wanna declare that you're taking it... [10:19] Is anybody documenting procedures for this sprint? I've sort of ended up doing that a bit in the "Documentation Sprint Tasks" page at http://drupal.org/node/388470 . Please review and comment. Is this redundant? Necessary? Useful? [10:19] Whoops, one sec... [10:19] <-- j_matthew_s has left this server. [10:20] I'm taking comment http://drupal.org/node/326601 [10:20] There, now look. [10:20] --> jbrauer has joined this channel (n=jbrauer@drupal.org/user/12363/view). [10:20] --> winstond has joined this channel (n=pwdowlin@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:20] --> bruno has joined this channel (n=bruno@customer-colocation-indymedia-1.all2all.org). [10:21] *** bruno is now known as Guest22751. [10:21] *** Guest22751 is now known as brunodbo. [10:21] hi all [10:22] --> momendo has joined this channel (n=momendo@198.227.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net). [10:22] --> j_matthew_s has joined this channel (n=matthews@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:22] add1sun: Do you want me to begin killing kittenComments? We're starting to get quite the list going on in #drupal-comments [10:23] I am working on http://drupal.org/node/324253 probably rewrite with incorporating comments [10:23] --> sam_RiteTimeDire has joined this channel (i=424ed98b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4641df491432ec8). [10:27] Is their a standard somewhere to write a doc to show differences between D5 and D6? [10:27] <-- j_matthew_s has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). [10:27] --> j_matthew_s has joined this channel (n=matthews@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:27] Helping a fella here to get onto IRC. For you Windows users, what is your favourite IRC client? [10:27] flickerfly: No, unfortunately, there is not [10:28] okay, I'll just muddle my way through. Thanks [10:28] Taxonomy has been finalized. Thanks everyone! [10:28] flickerfly: We've tried, with some success, to say "

In D5, it looks like this:

" "

In D6, it changed to this:

" [10:29] that's about what I was thinking, looks good [10:29] *** mechfish is now known as mechfish[afk]. [10:29] <-- bmoreinis has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [10:30] --> setfree has joined this channel (n=shawn@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:30] *** mechfish[afk] is now known as mechfish. [10:30] --> mbutcher has joined this channel (n=mbutcher@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:31] j_matthew_s: i use mIRC [10:31] test [10:31] @johnvsc Thanks. That's what we settled on [10:31] So, what can I start on to help out? [10:32] http://drupal.org/patch/create also has CVS documentation [10:32] j_matthew_s: but you can use chatzill for F Fox [10:32] i use mIRC [10:33] --> nadavoid has joined this channel (n=nadavoid@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:35] !---------- Need node/201914 REVIEWED ----------------! [10:35] its a start... [10:36] <-- chavan has left this server ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"). [10:36] <-- csteins has left this server ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"). [10:36] <-- redndahead has left this server (No route to host). [10:38] @all: Here's a hint that will make your docSprint() day easier. On d.o, edit your own account, and turn on the Docs Team links block, like this http://skitch.com/joelfarris/b8g9b/senpai-drupal.org [10:42] --> dougvann has joined this channel (n=chatzill@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:42] palantetec: maybe in taxonomy style guide documentation, link here for more info about taxonomy in general: http://drupal.org/node/299 ? [10:42] <-- litrik has left this channel. [10:43] <-- mib_6lqq3g has left this server ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"). [10:44] kevee: thanks: on it! [10:44] <-- millik has left this server ("kthxbai"). [10:44] johnvsc: I'm adding a few links to video resources right now [10:45] no changes to the top, tho [10:46] @all: There's a d.o page that shows a list of Handbook pages that have comments on them. http://drupal.org/handbook/comments [10:46] --> zzolo has joined this channel (n=apalazzo@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:47] delete ALL comments: http://drupal.org/node/206756 [10:48] <-- add1sun has left this server ("Sleep sleep"). [10:48] * kevee went to get more coffee [10:49] Please review the "Documentation Sprint Tasks" page at http://drupal.org/node/388470, and IRC me with changes. [10:50] Delete single comment on this page: http://drupal.org/node/135589 [10:55] --> You have joined the channel #drupal-docs (n=kathleen@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:55] *** The channel topic is "This channel is for discussing Drupal documentation. Everyone with an account on Drupal.org can get started helping out right now: http://drupal.org/node/302203. The doc challenge for February is comment cleaning: http://snipurl.com/b95xg | http://drupal.org/handbook/comments". [10:55] *** The topic was set by chx on 02/03/2009 09:24:13 PM. [10:55] --> emmajane has joined this channel (i=ejhogbin@66.33.210.42). [10:55] *** Channel modes: no messages from outside [10:55] *** This channel was created on 01/27/2009 12:28:39 AM. [10:56] <-- ceardach has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [10:56] --> kevee has joined this channel (n=kevee@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [10:57] --> dmitrig01|afk has joined this channel (n=dmitri@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [10:58] if you are looking for yesterday's group photo : http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrys/3333486097/ [10:58] http://drupal.org/node/232874 and related need some serious review. [10:59] --> tomboyle has joined this channel (n=tomboyle@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [11:00] omg... [11:00] <-- stina1317 has left this channel. [11:02] I need a task :-) [11:02] --> trevortwining has joined this channel (n=trevortw@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [11:02] dougvann: Go find a cat herder. :) [11:02] dougvann: Or, see http://drupal.org/node/388470 [11:02] dougvann: Scroll to "What general tasks need doing?" [11:02] aha thnx tgeller [11:04] tgeller: lovely job on 388470! [11:04] @all: STYLE GUIDE NOTE. I am still working on merging the new info into the existing style guide. You should definitely feel free to look at it while I'm working on the changes (as long as nobody edits it we're fine). I know right now the organiation of the doc (and probably the anchor links) aren't exactly working. But the info is still good. Here's the URL where the most info can be found:... [11:04] ...http://drupal.org/node/377274. (this is going to go away as soon as I'm done though, and I will post new URL at that time). [11:04] vfranklyn: Thank you!!! [11:05] senpai: added new bit to the style guide re version differences. If you get a moment, maybe you could take a look and see if it makes sense http://drupal.org/node/338208 [11:05] In particular please note things like spelling, British/American differences, punctuation. [11:05] <-- dmitrig01|afk has left this server. [11:05] <-- jbrauer has left this server. [11:05] LeeHunter: Sweet! We dsperately need that. I'll read it right now. [11:05] Margaux: Oops. Just edited the style guide. Didn't see your note :( [11:05] Margaux: sorry [11:06] Also I am going to make a new section describing the taxonomy terms that have just been added for the different types of people [11:06] @LeeHunter: np, which one did you edit? [11:06] margaux: http://drupal.org/node/338208 [11:07] --> kscheirer has joined this channel (n=karl@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [11:07] --> cjdavis has joined this channel (n=chrisd@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [11:07] Sorry to point people to the style guide that is going to ultimately disappear - it's just that right NOW it has 90% of the correct info, and the target node only has about 20%. So for the sake of getting the info out to the doc team ASAP, it's best to look at the old node. [11:07] LMK if you have any questions. [11:07] @LeeHunter: thanks! [11:08] OK - I've posted a first draft of the style guide section on taxonomy on the Meta table's page: http://drupal.org/node/394044 [11:08] --> jbrauer has joined this channel (n=jbrauer@drupal.org/user/12363/view). [11:08] Please review and make suggestions! [11:08] <-- redndahead_ has left this server (Connection timed out). [11:09] If you make any changes directly to what I've posted there, please make a note of what you've changed in the log message. You can also just suggest stuff to me here (probably better because then we can all discuss suggestions and possible changes before making them.) [11:10] LeeHunter: That's PERFECT. Thanks so much. [11:11] --> dmitrig01|afk has joined this channel (n=dmitri@drupal.org/user/47566/view). [11:11] flickerfly: There's now a section in the style guide that deals with denoting the changes between differing versions of Drupal. http://drupal.org/node/338208 [11:12] thank you [11:12] Just a reminder to everyone that there are significant problems with the doc book structure resulting from the D6 upgrade. Hopefully these will be fixed programmatically very soon. More info about the issue here: http://drupal.org/node/376790 [11:12] I'm done for the moment with http://drupal.org/node/388470. [11:12] Is anybody just watching IRC and picking up tasks that appear there? I'm not seeing any callback, i.e. "I got it!". [11:13] I guess not... [11:13] echo... echo... echo... [11:13] <-- jeffschuler has left this server. [11:14] <-- mu5a5hi has left this server (Success). [11:14] kevee: looking at your page on panels 2 [11:14] thx [11:14] --> wesku has joined this channel (i=vesa@moana.fi). [11:15] kevee: need to add visuals to this as it would add to your explanations: also, I see some typos / grammer issues ... [11:15] k [11:15] --> bryankennedy has joined this channel (n=bryanken@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [11:16] <-- niels_bom has left this server ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]"). [11:16] O.K., just confirmed with add1sun. I'm taking the meta-task of watching IRC and picking up tasks that people throw in here (i.e., reviewing pages when they're done, coordination, etc.) [11:16] After today, she gets promoted to add2sun! [11:16] palantetech: Good stuff. Clear. I'm wondering if there needs to be further language distinguishing Designer and Themer? Is the idea that a designers do not create or modify themes but do graphic work that ends up in a theme? If so, we might want to add that language to make that distinction. [11:16] tgeller: awesome! let the review table know [11:17] johnsvc: I'm not sure I understand. Stand up and wave -- I'll come over. [11:17] johnvsc: what, "in which are" isn't correct grammar? ;) [11:18] bmadore: Yeah, I think that's the basic idea of separating Designer out from Themer. I'll work some of that language in. Thanks! [11:18] !-------------- Need this http://drupal.org/upgrade/preparing-the-site REVIEWED -------------! [11:18] --> johnbarclay__ has joined this channel (n=admin@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [11:20] kevee: looking [11:20] --> jmjohn has joined this channel (n=jmjohn@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [11:21] *** jmjohn is now known as glass-dimly. [11:23] --> add1sun has joined this channel (n=addi@drupal.org/user/65088/view). [11:23] ping sheise [11:24] <-- ludovicof has left this server ("Leaving."). [11:24] --> chachasikes has joined this channel (n=chachasi@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [11:26] ping add1sun [11:27] http://drupal.org/cron is certainly better than http://drupal.org/node/120625 which is in the cookbook. The duplication is confusing, but having at this point in the structure makes sense. How do we handle that? [11:28] <-- add1sun has left this server ("Sleep sleep"). [11:29] --> litrik has joined this channel (n=litrik@c-98-218-241-245.hsd1.dc.comcast.net). [11:29] new small group meeting at 11:30 - Documentation organization http://drupal.org/node/394172 [11:29] Taylesia: Was your concern about http://drupal.org/node/144758 answered yet? [11:30] PatriciaBarden: Was your concern at http://drupal.org/node/326601 answered? [11:30] --> mu5a5hi has joined this channel (n=jephilli@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [11:31] anyone need anything reviewed? [11:31] sorry, moved over to drupal-comments irc [11:32] <-- LeeHunter has left this server ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"). [11:33] <-- emmajane has left this server ("leaving"). [11:34] <-- litrik has left this channel. [11:35] flickerfly: I agree with you. I've seen the OUTDATED tag on various pages. Is that a standard? I think more than the "since then... [11:35] --> christefano has joined this channel (n=christo@ip72-196-210-9.dc.dc.cox.net). [11:35] comment is needed [11:36] bmadore: thanks, I'll mark outdated and refer to cron [11:36] johnvsc: I rewrote a lot of the text and cleaned up the tense/pronouns [11:36] we've used outdated to indicate it might stll be useful but needs cleanup/updating [11:36] irc [11:36] er, if I rememver correctly [11:37] and if the entire page isn't applicable anytmore, it goes to archive [11:37] does anyone else think we should warn against enabling too many modules initially at http://drupal.org/getting-started/6/admin ? [11:37] tgeller: Not answered yet [11:38] Taylesia: I'll take a look. [11:38] tgellar: Thanks. it's comment number 737357 [11:38] *** dmitrig01|afk is now known as dmitrig01. [11:39] Oh, the Page Status vocab has a Deprecated option. Picking that. [11:41] --> add1sun has joined this channel (n=addi@drupal.org/user/65088/view). [11:41] <-- esmerel-laptop has left this server (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it"). [11:41] Taylesia: I can't answer the comment at http://drupal.org/node/144758#comment-737357 myself -- I'm not a coder. I don't think it's our job to actually answer these questions, though. That's for "the community". [11:41] :) [11:41] tomboyle: Since the page you are referring to doesn't actually say anything about adding/enabling modules not sure what the issue is. [11:42] tomboyle: Maybe this page needs work instead? http://drupal.org/getting-started/6/admin/build/modules [11:42] add1sun: chachasikes also of the Encyclopedia of Life agreed to take over http://drupal.org/project/term_message for the day at least [11:42] tgeller: Thanks for trying [11:43] add1sun: chachasikes has has a request for CVS account you can facilitate :-) [11:44] plz review http://drupal.org/node/328149 i added the text at the bottom after the bullets [11:45] !---------- Need this http://drupal.org/node/328149 REVIEWED ----------------! [11:45] dougvann: Note the preferred style. :) [11:46] thnx tgeller [11:46] I'll take a look at 328149 [11:47] bmadore: I was just looking at it. D6 doesn't have an "add new field" tab. That should be rewritten. [11:47] They put out drupal LUNCHES right outside our door. [11:47] !-------------------- Needs review http://drupal.org/node/394206 - new page related to issue http://drupal.org/node/105486 -----! [11:47] Does anyone know where the file is that documents all of the hooks (e.g. hook_validate, hook_help, etc.)? [11:47] tgeller: okay, i'll move on [11:48] bmadore: Not sure what you mean. Would you like me to take it? [11:48] mbutcher: Do you mean http://api.drupal.org ? [11:49] tgeller: I read your comment to mean that you were reviewing. Would you like me to take it on? [11:49] --> Manop_[th] has joined this channel (n=chatzill@ip68-100-240-213.dc.dc.cox.net). [11:50] bmadore: Walking over. [11:50] tgeller: yes [11:50] Should comments on feature requests be removed or left alone? [11:50] <-- mechfish has left this server (Connection timed out). [11:52] Taylesia: Could you give me an example? [11:52] kevee: can i send you a revision? [11:53] johnvsc: sure, thankx... kevin_miller@csumb.edu [11:53] dougvann: I agree with tgeller, there's much to be done with this particular page. Are you up to the task of extending the documentation to include Drupal 6, etc? And are you in the docs room? I don't see you? [11:53] in "The Drupal Cookbook (for beginners)" step C is "Creating Multiple Sites on a Local Computer". Any reason we're telling beginners as step three how to setup a multi-site? [11:53] winstond: The "Welcome" page/screen shot encourages enabling modules, any module best practices comes later. Perhaps I am thinking more about using the guide too much as a tutorial. [11:53] tgeller: EXAMPLE: "Cool, this is what i'm looking for, but I can't use it because I'm using Drupal 5. It would be cooler if there were a module able to make this, or if each user could maintain it's own vocabulary (create and delete own terms for his/her blog posts). [11:53] Thanks anyway. [11:53] " [11:54] Also, that page is "for beginners", but the breadcrumbs put it inside "Beyond the Basics" [11:54] flickerfly: I tend to agree with you, but would like to look at the page. Could you provide a URL, please? [11:54] http://drupal.org/node/120647 [11:55] kevee: sent [11:55] Taylesia: I think they should be left alone. However, I think it would be helpful to reply to the comment, directing the user to the correct place (via link) to make that feature suggestion. [11:55] I'll take a look [11:55] thanks [11:55] Taylesia: Who knows? They might be one of the few, the proud who follow their Track page. :) [11:56] hehe [11:56] tomboyle: Are you at Drupalcon? [11:56] flickerfly: Going to look at it now. [11:57] tgeller: any idea where his request would be better suited? [11:57] --> arianek has joined this channel (n=arianek@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [11:57] winstond: yes [11:57] johnvsc: thanks for the revisions, but I'll also add a screenshot so people can get a visual [11:57] <-- domesticat has left this server. [11:58] <-- christefano has left this server. [11:58] flickerfly: Yup, I agree that that should come WAAAY later in the handbook, possibly after "R. Keeping Your Local and Remote Sites Synchronized" (http://drupal.org/node/120617) [11:58] Taylesia: Please send the URL. [11:58] http://drupal.org/node/88813 [11:58] while I'm changing the structure, can I kill the Lettering? That is going to get all messed up. [11:59] <-- cjdavis has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). [11:59] Taylesia: Going... [11:59] <-- aggaire has left this server (Connection timed out). [12:01] --> aj045 has joined this channel (n=chatzill@drupal.org/user/183938/view). [12:01] <-- Manop_[th] has left this server ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]"). [12:01] Taylesia: It seems to be a general request of the community. I think responding to those is beyond the scope of our work here today. :) If it was in the comments related to a specific module, I'd direct them to the issue queue of that module's issue queue. But in this case, I don't think there's anything to be done. [12:02] tgeller: So are you saying leave it be? [12:02] tgeller: suggesting, I mean [12:02] Delete http://drupal.org/node/1424#comment-849580 [12:02] Rolled comments http://drupal.org/node/1424#comment-849580 and http://drupal.org/node/1424#comment-1238300 into help text body at http://drupal.org/node/1424 [12:02] flickerfly: I think the lettering should go. The letters are part of the titles; they're not even a real outline. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see this type of alphabetical organization being used elsewhere in the handbook. It's a bit confusing and hard to work with. [12:02] So for people complaining on how the log msg in preview is not carrying over, It's b/c there's no default value set for that field in the node module [12:03] I'm not sure if that's a feature, not a bug [12:03] any thoughts? [12:03] bmadore: I agree, it's unique. I'll start scrubbing it. :-) [12:03] sorry, haven't been able to get back to http://drupal.org/node/326601 [12:04] kevee: bug, bug, bug! [12:04] k [12:04] I'll submit it [12:04] it's one line. [12:04] bmadore: im good with extending CCK D6 docs. i can start after i get done with a lunch meeting with josh_k [12:04] <-- jbrauer has left this server. [12:05] dougvann: good deal. happy lunch. [12:05] --> mechfish has joined this channel (n=user@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [12:05] <-- tomboyle has left this channel. [12:06] --> cjdavis has joined this channel (n=chrisd@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [12:08] --> alaken has joined this channel (n=alaken@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [12:08] <-- dmitrig01 has left this server. [12:09] kevee: np yeah, we NEED show with the tell [12:09] For the Audiences taxonomy.. im looking at pages where 'WE' *documenters* are the audience.. which audience to choose? [12:11] <-- ultimateboy has left this server. [12:12] *** dereine is now known as dereine[OFF]. [12:17] <-- johnbarclay__ has left this server. [12:17] <-- glass-dimly has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [12:18] Heirarchy wonkiness. I'm starting to notice this on pages outside the BTB book as well. How big a problem is this? [12:18] --> rootwork has joined this channel (n=rootwork@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [12:20] working on Troubleshooting FAQs: http://drupal.org/node/72108 [12:21] --> dmitrig01|afk has joined this channel (n=dmitri@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [12:22] --> t77 has joined this channel (n=ea2124@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [12:22] @davidstrauss: I've tested all of the CSV commands on our page: http://drupal.org/node/394054. There are also some questions at the bottom of the page that we came up with earlier. [12:23] --> jeffschuler has joined this channel (n=jeff@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [12:23] mu5a5hi: It might be that we just don't choose a taxo term for pages that are targeting Documentation Creators. Maybe? 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I'm about to stand up -- am in a black jacket and blue jeans. [12:32] <-- socialGorilla has left this server. [12:33] mu5a5hi: Hmm - seems like "Drupal.org Documentation Creators" would make sense as an Audience type term. Do others agree/object? [12:34] <-- setfree has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). [12:35] palantetech: seems like too much of a niche. How about an "other" type? [12:35] --> jschumann has joined this channel (n=jschuman@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [12:36] Is anyone else working on theming docs, especially for views2? I think I'm going to work on http://drupal.org/node/352970 [12:36] Agree with Lane. or maybe Drupal.org members? [12:37] --> stella has joined this channel (n=stella@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [12:37] --> mitchell has joined this channel (n=mitchell@c-24-126-57-61.hsd1.dc.comcast.net). [12:37] rootwork: I say go for it! One suggestion: Put something at the top of the doc, "This page is currently being worked on -- do not edit". Then remember to remove that when you're done. :) [12:38] yep, i'll definitely do that. cool. [12:38] PatriciaBarden: http://drupal.org/node/302146 [12:38] <-- add1sun has left this server ("Sleep sleep"). [12:39] <-- PatriciaBarden has left this server. [12:39] * johnvsc is leaving drupalcon :( [12:39] <-- johnvsc has left this server. [12:40] for comment roll ups, if there is a version specific page with comments explaining the same thing in another version, should a new page be created for the other version, or the page rolled up and tagged with both versions? [12:40] <-- toemaz has left this server ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]"). [12:40] Lane: Hmm. On the suggestion of an "Other" term in the "Audience type" vocabulary - since the Audience type vocab isn't manadtory, I'd be inclined to not use "other" [12:41] --> setfree has joined this channel (n=shawn@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [12:41] --> mrosas has joined this channel (n=mrosas45@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [12:42] palantetech: valid point, also no one 's likely to search for "other". I only offer it as an alternative to creating a dozen narrowly-defined terms. [12:42] DRALUSDE: I like your idea of "Drupal.org members" - less specific is probably better. But I might use "Drupal.org contributors" instead [12:42] bmadore: regarding audience types, not thought out but maybe we could have something like Trainer/Documenter? For those who explain? I think that handbook pages about training may be in a similar boat as the documenting. [12:44] <-- mitchell has left this server ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 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[12:57] flickerfly: If you want it acted on, file it as a documentation issue. (I believe that's how we're handling all deletions. But I welcome correction if I'm wrong....) [12:57] tgeller: thanks [12:58] tgeller: nope no answer yet, thanks, I'll go find her ^_^ [12:58] --> jbrauer has joined this channel (n=jbrauer@drupal.org/user/12363/view). [12:59] OK - the Meta table seems to like the idea of adding "Drupal.org Contributor" as a term in the Audience type vocabulary. Any objections? [12:59] And to be clear, this is primarily intended for folks writing meta documentation about how to create docs for Drupal.org, but is also adaptable to other uses [13:00] --> ultimateboy has joined this channel (n=ultimate@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [13:00] *** dmitrig01 is now known as dmitrig01|afk. [13:00] I think Contributor might be a little confusing [13:01] --> aggaire has joined this channel (n=chatzill@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [13:02] <-- ultimateboy has left this server (Client Quit). [13:02] just because pretty much everyone contributes, just not necessarily to documentation [13:02] DyanneNova: We'll explain what we mean by Drupal.org Contributor in the Taxonomy section on the Style Guide that's being written; you can see what's been written so far for that section here: http://drupal.org/node/394044 [13:02] DyanneNova: good point. Do you have a suggestion for a better term to use? [13:02] --> LeeHunter has joined this channel (i=424ed983@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5eafd8bc442aa757). [13:04] Document Contributer maybe? I'm not sure about the adaptations to other uses with that term though [13:05] <-- CrookedNumber has left this server. [13:05] DyanneNova: Yeah, maybe Drupal.org Documenters? [13:06] How about just putting "(For drupal.org Documenters)" near / at the top of the article? [13:06] <-- LeeHunter has left this server ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"). [13:06] <-- robbiethegeek has left this server. [13:06] palantech: that's a lot more specific, sounds good to me ^_^ [13:08] Lane: (I know this is exactly what we were trying to get away from originally w/ the intro of the Audience type, but it still seems niche-y). [13:10] <-- kevee has left this server. [13:10] Lane: Yeah, I hear you, but as robbiethegeek just said, as long as the terms we're creating are actually for "discrete buckets," it's okay to be a little niche-y. And I think that if we're working on a whole set of meta documentation, it seems like a discrete bucket and a distinct need. [13:11] So I'm going to go ahead and put it in. [13:11] anyone working on pages that need code samples tested? [13:12] Well, someone who is allowed to add taxonomy terms is actually going to be doing the putting in. Anyone here have permission to do that? I have another request for you too. [13:13] palantetech: well, in that case, cool. [13:13] *** mechfish is now known as mechfish[afk]. [13:13] anyone aware of an overview page on non-core search solutions (like eg. http://drupal.org/node/208456)? [13:14] --> ultimateboy has joined this channel (n=ultimate@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [13:14] i'm busy writing up my notes of the search panel at dcdc; this may be useful as a starting point for such a page (which i didn't find on d.o.) [13:14] Anybody looking for something to do and would like to help with screenshots please come to the table by the podium. [13:17] --> salt_packets has joined this channel (n=boris@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [13:18] *** salt_packets is now known as bsmirnov. [13:20] <-- jumpfightgo has left this server. [13:22] --> LeeHunter has joined this channel (i=424ed983@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f60f32d9cde49c9d). [13:22] <-- j_matthew_s has left this server. [13:23] *** mechfish[afk] is now known as mechfish. [13:23] --> snodbob|away has joined this channel (n=chatzill@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [13:23] *** snodbob|away is now known as snodbob. [13:23] <-- jhodgdon has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). [13:24] <-- Margaux has left this channel. [13:26] --> kevee has joined this channel (n=kevee@72-255-8-140.client.stsn.net). [13:26] <-- kevee has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [13:26] what do we do with comments that just provide links to content about similar concepts on other sites? do we fold them into the text of the documentation or should the comments be deleted? am looking at this page: http://drupal.org/node/2041 [13:28] <-- flickerfly has left this server. [13:28] --> jhodgdon has joined this channel (n=jhodgdon@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [13:28] <-- zacherbaugh has left this channel. [13:29] bldmtn: I'd say it's a judgement call. If the external links add significant value and are relevant, I don't see why they couldn't be rolled in to the page. [13:29] <-- JuliaKM has left this server. 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[14:01] <-- bsmirnov has left this server (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). [14:03] --> Lane has joined this channel (n=lbourn@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [14:03] <-- Lane has left this server (Client Quit). [14:03] FYI updated style guide is available at http://drupal.org/node/338208 - usable now, geting more edits throughout the day [14:03] <-- mitchell has left this server ("This computer has gone to sleep"). [14:05] --> geerlingguy has joined this channel (n=geerling@99.164.158.200). [14:07] @all: HERE'S A LITTLE NOTE that might help save you some time. If the drupal.org node you're reading has a breadcrumb at the top of the page which starts with "Home > Download ..." you're looking at an Issue Queue node. We don't delete comments on these. ;) [14:10] --> matason has joined this channel (n=matason@82-70-148-150.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk). [14:10] Is there a style for referring to file names (e.g. node.tpl.php) in handbook pages? I like to wrap them in tags in my own writing so they stand out, but I don't know if that's Drupal style. I don't see anything about it (or using tags at all, actually) in the style guide http://drupal.org/node/377274 [14:10] <-- tgeller has left this server. [14:12] --> tgeller has joined this channel (n=tgeller@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [14:12] --> setfree has joined this channel (n=shawn@c-68-33-164-49.hsd1.dc.comcast.net). [14:12] <-- tgeller has left this server (Client Quit). [14:13] --> tgeller has joined this channel (n=tgeller@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [14:14] alaken: Thanks for that. Guide is much easier to use. [14:15] <-- tgeller has left this server (Client Quit). [14:15] leehunter: glad it [14:15] glad it' [14:15] argh! [14:15] glad it's helpfule! [14:15] <-- jimmy__ has left this server ("leaving"). [14:15] [14:15] <-- mebak has left this server (Connection timed out). 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[14:32] anybody know if you should tag error messages with ? [14:34] <-- chachasikes has left this server. [14:34] <-- smiles has left this server ("Leaving"). [14:36] --> xamount has joined this channel (n=xamount@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [14:36] *** dmitrig01 is now known as dmitrig01|afk. [14:39] <-- Senpai has left this server ("The computer fell asleep"). [14:43] --> tgeller has joined this channel (n=tgeller@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [14:43] @JuliaKM @jhodgdon my comment about relabeling .diff as .txt to trick testbed into not testing : http://drupal.org/node/338178#comment-1328042 [14:44] --> smiles has joined this channel (n=smilesnd@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [14:45] <-- tgeller has left this server (Client Quit). [14:46] <-- gcassie has left this server ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"). [14:46] d.o's search is doing stemming on "accessibility" and returning results for "access." LOL. And fail... 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[14:54] delete comments: http://drupal.org/node/163616 This is a page that needed to be moved into the 'archived' book and I think these can be safely taken out of the queue [14:56] allright palantetech! [14:56] <-- twbarney has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). [14:56] So is nobody else working on theming documentation? I'm at the "meta table" (I think) but I'm working on theming docs. I can create a new group listing if there are others working on similar stuff, so we can list the accomplishments. [14:57] Or I can just email them to Jack if no one else is doing theming docs :) [14:59] I finished stage 1 of the views 2 theming doc http://drupal.org/node/352970 -- next stages are incorporating the comments and useful stuff from two other guides elsewhere on the internet [14:59] delete comment: http://drupal.org/node/92188#comment-941782 [15:02] <-- davidstrauss has left this server. [15:02] --> nikkiana has joined this channel (n=nikkiana@12.50.88.2). [15:02] Oh yeah, if people don't want to email me with stuff they can just send me a msg here in IRC. duh. [15:03] !------------ please DELETE this page: http://drupal.org/node/394090 ----------------! [15:03] If a page is out of date (i.e. only covers 4.x and earlier) don't bother incorporating comments. It can be moved to the Archive section of the handbook.. [15:03] --> esmerel-laptop has joined this channel (n=esmerel@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [15:03] <-- Freso has left this server ("Leaving"). [15:04] !----------- please review this section: http://drupal.org/node/394092 (whole ad module section is new) -------------! [15:04] rootwork: I will be working on some theming docs later today. [15:04] Any estimate on how many folks have come to the Doc Sprint so far? Does the 50 number that add1sun threw out sound good? [15:04] geerlingguy: cool, ok then i'll create a group [15:04] rootwork: please post a link here when it's ready :) [15:05] <-- nikkiana has left this server (Client Quit). [15:05] will do [15:06] palantetech: I would say more than 50 as some have come and gone. Closer to 70. [15:06] more than 50, 70-75? [15:07] rootwork: I'm not working on theming docs at the moment, but I did a lot of work a few months back restructuring the theming book (bringing in the theme snippets etc etc ) so I might be able to helpif you have a question about structure. [15:08] LeeHunter: great. I was thinking that Theming Views 2 http://drupal.org/node/352970 will probably ultimately need to be split into child pages (like the Theming Views 1 section) but was going to tackle that once I actually get everything up on that page [15:08] palantetech: might be a few more people visiting on IRC. [15:09] I'm ou tin the main hall, didn't makeit back to the room yet [15:11] <-- bryankennedy has left this server. [15:11] --> davidstrauss has joined this channel (n=davidstr@wikimedia/davidstrauss). [15:12] LeeHunter: also had a question about structure of theming book. http://drupal.org/node/394446 [15:15] *** dmitrig01|afk is now known as dmitrig01. [15:16] <-- jeffschuler has left this server. [15:28] --> You have joined the channel #drupal-docs (n=kathleen@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [15:28] *** The channel topic is "This channel is for discussing Drupal documentation. Everyone with an account on Drupal.org can get started helping out right now: http://drupal.org/node/302203. The doc challenge for February is comment cleaning: http://snipurl.com/b95xg | http://drupal.org/handbook/comments". [15:28] *** The topic was set by chx on 02/03/2009 09:24:13 PM. [15:29] done [15:29] *** Channel modes: no messages from outside [15:29] *** This channel was created on 01/27/2009 12:28:39 AM. [15:29] palantetech: Several people also helped David figure out CVS commands to put into his CVS Instructions module that he's working on (not on d.o yet) [15:30] --> jbrauer_ has joined this channel (n=jbrauer@drupal.org/user/12363/view). [15:31] --> smilesnd_ has joined this channel (n=smilesnd@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [15:32] <-- smiles has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). [15:32] Just to let folks know what my process will be: I'm going to compile all the info I'm getting directly and from each table's page. The sprints are scheduled to end at 5pm, so at 5:30pm I'll check to make sure I've incorporated any new content from the table pages, then I'll put up a post in the News and announcements forum on drupal.org [15:32] After that folks should comment to talk more about the specifics of what the [15:33] what they worked on, how much fun they had working with everyone, and anything else. :) [15:33] <-- ceardach_ has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). [15:33] <-- Sloane has left this channel. [15:34] Theming Documentation group page is up http://drupal.org/node/394580 looks kind of silly since only my task is up. Please add to it :) LeeHunter palantetech geerlingguy [15:34] Comments on http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/rsvp need to be deleted - someone incorporated the comments earlier today. [15:39] --> Owner__ has joined this channel (n=Owner@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [15:39] deleted [15:39] having fun all? [15:40] like a bag of cats! [15:40] excellent. [15:40] got the kids to myself today so randomly walking by the ocmputer [15:41] Please delete comments on http://drupal.org/node/314097 [15:41] support request, reply that that's not the right place, and a thank you [15:41] Is there anyone on this IRC channel who is participating in the doc sprint and is not physically at DrupalCon? Would love to give a shout out in my forum post. [15:41] there was a support request? [15:41] yeah [15:41] well [15:42] oops [15:42] it should have been a support request, but those don't work so well on handbook pages eh [15:42] I'm not there, but it's not like I participated [15:42] --> Senpai has joined this channel (n=Senpai@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [15:42] --> cjdavis has joined this channel (n=chrisd@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [15:42] dougvann: link to content types in handbook: http://drupal.org/node/21947 [15:42] If not a specific name by name shout out, at least a "people were here physically AND virtually" YAY shout out. [15:42] palantetech, sepeck there is helping delete stuff, that counts in my book:) [15:42] esmerel-laptop, heh [15:43] esmerel-laptop: that counts for sure :) [15:45] <-- Taylesia has left this server (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). [15:47] bmadore hey [15:47] *** Owner__ is now known as Taylesia. [15:47] <-- winstond has left this server. [15:48] please delete comment http://drupal.org/node/352970#comment-1242857 and its reply. It was integrated into the page. [15:48] <-- jbrauer has left this server (Connection timed out). [15:48] rootwork - duly noted - will get on later this afternoon/evening [15:48] cool [15:49] --> emspace has joined this channel (n=sime@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [15:49] rootwork: Do you think it's too early to write up something about 7.x CSS-only theming / stark in the handbook? [15:49] also let's delete the comment http://drupal.org/node/352970#comment-1244263 and all its replies as the resolution was that the original commenter was wrong :) [15:49] geerlingguy i think it is *never* to early to start writing docs! especially theming docs which are always sparse [15:49] bmadore: hey [15:49] poof [15:50] thanks sepeck can you delete http://drupal.org/node/352970#comment-1242857 and its reply too [15:50] rootwork: quite true. Just a week ago, I noticed a handbook doc on theming the search form, and tried it. Didn't work - because it was for 5.x, and didn't apply to 6.x (grrr) [15:50] ha [15:50] Baronmunchowsen: I'm wondering (general issue) if you need to display the entire list of features of the module on the first page, esp. since they are listed on the linked module page. Oh, and thanks for doing this documentation, by the way. [15:51] geerlingguy when you see stuff like that i hope you will edit the page and tag it for drupal 5.x :) that helps a lot [15:51] and poof too [15:51] hooray sepeck [15:51] rootwork: it is [15:51] palantetech: meta table worked on drupal.org style guide, documentation organization, audience taxonomy for Handbook, documentation tools... [15:53] palantetech: and Accessibility [15:53] please delete comments on http://drupal.org/upgrade/tutorial-introduction :) [15:54] done [15:55] sepeck: oh you are not at the conference are you? [15:55] gracias [15:55] delete comment http://drupal.org/node/226507#comment-1077803 and its two child comments. [15:55] nope [15:56] ah [15:56] oh so this is like the standard docs channel, not a custom one for the conference then [15:56] combination of things. Partly because work had a federal porgram audit at the same time so most peoples vacations were denied. Also, broke :) [15:56] * emspace just walked into the room [15:56] sepeck: doh [15:56] --> salt_packets has joined this channel (n=boris@72-58-162-49.pools.spcsdns.net). [15:56] of course, I am always broke :) [15:57] critical issue, sepeck broke - patches welcome [15:57] hehe [15:57] not that broke :) Just no new toys this year [15:58] question: who in this channel is doing the deletes? [15:58] I am, there may be othrs as well [15:58] ok, just wanted to make sure mine didn't get lost in the discussion [15:58] --> palantetech_ has joined this channel (n=palantet@174-153-227-149.pools.spcsdns.net). [15:59] emspace distracted me, I think I did it already [15:59] :) [15:59] indeed. See it now, thanks O Absent One :) [16:03] --> add1sun has joined this channel (n=addi@drupal.org/user/65088/view). [16:03] just remember, when this all blows over, we blame add1sun. No one tell her [16:03] anyone know cindy? [16:04] or is she here? [16:04] <-- bldmtn has left this server. [16:05] --> davidstrauss has joined this channel (n=davidstr@wikimedia/davidstrauss). [16:06] * geerlingguy blames add1sun [16:06] * momendo asks.. Should we tell her? [16:08] --> Margaux has joined this channel (n=chatzill@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [16:08] you can tell when people auto-join channels and aren't paying attention that way :) [16:09] <-- xamount has left this channel. [16:09] ping add1sun [16:09] she's running around helping sprinters [16:09] @all: anyone editing http://drupal.org/node/15365? if not, i'm gonna take it on. [16:09] ok, ill go look for her [16:09] of course she is. She can't help herself [16:10] thanks [16:11] Margaux, take it on :D Just note a the top you are working it I guess:) [16:11] Cuz that's an ugly one yes [16:11] good thinking :) thanks! [16:12] --> catch has joined this channel (n=catch@drupal.org/user/35733/view). [16:12] delete comments: http://drupal.org/node/183021 [16:12] <-- bsmirnov has left this server (Connection timed out). [16:13] <-- trevortwining has left this server. [16:13] DELETE COMMENTS NODE 183021 (just in case they didn't see the upper/lower case) thx amy! :) [16:13] <-- palantetech has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). [16:14] --> chriscalip has joined this channel (n=chatzill@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [16:15] done [16:15] <-- stacybird has left this server ("Leaving"). [16:16] --> stacybird has joined this channel (n=stacy@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [16:17] delete comments on http://drupal.org/getting-started/6/install/download please :) [16:17] done [16:18] thanks:) [16:18] DELETE COMMENTS http://drupal.org/googlesummerofcode2005 (after review) [16:19] <-- chriscalip has left this server (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). [16:19] why are we doing this [16:19] dmitrig01: for the good of humanity [16:20] ok :P [16:20] sepeck: I had set up a system for managing the comment deletion system. Sorry, I didn't realize there was anyone working virtually so I just collaborated with the guys here. [16:21] sepeck: I've been periodically taking a dump of #drupal-comments, sanatizing it, and posting it on this page: http://drupal.org/node/394180 [16:21] quick question - for subheadings on a page, do we use h2 or h3? [16:21] <-- salt_packets has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). [16:21] the guys with delete permission go through and delete them, remove it from that post, and add it to this post: http://drupal.org/node/394288 [16:22] At the end of the day when people stop working, I will be posting this in the issue queue [16:22] --> trevortwining has joined this channel (n=trevortw@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [16:22] ceardach_: that's hard core [16:23] <-- palantetech_ has left this server. [16:23] <-- trevortwining has left this server (Client Quit). [16:23] due to the shear quantity of requests for deleltion, we'll keep those two book pages as working documents until they are all processed. This will allow people to do small batches as they have time. Once it's all done, the nodes can be deleted [16:24] geerlingguy: the page title is h1, so the first subtitle should be h2 [16:24] ceardach__: ah thanks [16:24] what about if nodes are in views, ceardach__ [16:24] where the title becomes an h2 [16:24] ceardach__, why be so coplex? [16:24] sorry [16:24] just happen to be peeking my head in here [16:25] sepeck: because there are 201 pending deletion requests [16:25] probably should keep my comments to myself [16:25] ummm [16:25] --> palantetech has joined this channel (n=palantet@174-153-227-149.pools.spcsdns.net). [16:26] but if they are incorporated and can be deleted right this instance can't I delete them now? [16:26] --> liabo has joined this channel (n=chatzill@dccc-66-78-217-139.smartcity.com). [16:27] http://drupal.org/googlesummerofcode2005 <- not deleted comments at this time That is a section I am unsure what should be done with, so check with Add1sun [16:28] sepeck: if we go through the process where 10+ people are marking comments to delete, and 2 people are deleting them and seperately commenting that what they have deleted, it will be too tedious to later reconcile which deletion requests were processed and which weren't. [16:28] I can simply stop [16:28] sepeck: or you can start tackling these: http://drupal.org/node/394180 [16:29] bnecause I am obviously confused [16:29] the two guys who had delete permission here have now left for their flights [16:30] see, I have a 2 year old and 5 year to myself so I am only giving part of my attention here [16:30] <-- zzolo has left this server. [16:30] so the simpler for me the better [16:30] sepeck: the list on http://drupal.org/node/394180 should make it easier for you to have a task list [16:30] !---------- Need this http://drupal.org/modules/cck/documentationrevie REVIEWED ----------------! [16:30] making something simple doesnt mean u should do it wrong [16:31] i added an intro sentence and removed some ambiguity from the wording of the 1st paragraph [16:31] ceardach__, I can respond to individual requests right now and eliminate 5 steps in updating a page or stop working. [16:31] sepeck: there are 201 requests there, that will take longer than you likely have available time. However, it'll also allow you to pick up where you, or anyone else, left off once you have time to get back to it [16:31] I don't have time to edit a master list [16:31] by using the list it spreads out the work makes sure no one steps on each other toes n speeds up the process [16:32] smilesnd_, then I will stop and bow to your rules [16:34] --> spottybones has joined this channel (n=spottybo@c-98-218-214-115.hsd1.va.comcast.net). [16:34] DELETE COMMENTS: http://drupal.org/node/328966#comment-1201792 [16:34] someone else can do deletes at some later date when they haev time I suppose [16:34] It is not our rules. We had a problem earlier, and so 5 of us sat down and hashed out the best way we could save us time and ensure that all delete requests are preserved, and those who do deletion don't try to process doc pages that someone else already processed [16:35] DELETE THIS ONE SINGLE COMMENT: http://drupal.org/node/15365#comment-1009476 (I just rolled this first comment into the node, but have not done the rest of the comments below it.) [16:35] <-- Baronmunchowsen has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [16:35] <-- JuliaKM has left this server. [16:36] ceardach__, seriously. I have time to respond to directed requests. I do not have time/attention available to edit and update a page. So, if my deleting on request is unacceptable then someone will simply have to do all the extra work later [16:36] --> pinglaura has joined this channel (n=pinglaur@drupal.org/user/18973/view). [16:36] you are there, I am not, you setup new rules [16:36] no big deal [16:37] <-- t77 has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). [16:37] <-- trebuchet has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). [16:37] <-- pinglaura has left this server (Client Quit). [16:38] --> psynaptic has joined this channel (n=psynapti@drupal.org/user/93429/view). [16:38] DELETE COMMENT: http://drupal.org/node/328966#comment-1202177 [16:39] --> benfinklea has joined this channel (n=benfinkl@dccc-66-78-217-131.smartcity.com). [16:41] I'm going to edit this: http://drupal.org/node/64768