Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the most exciting beta release of Drupal yet, Drupal 5.0 beta 1! It fizzes and it whizzes so grab a copy of it here:

http://drupal.org/files/projects/drupal-5.0-beta1.tar.gz

It comes with many new features, including a web-based install system, improved administration tools, and a shiny new theme! There are also tons of under-the-hood improvements, such as the inclusion of the jQuery JavaScript library, node access system improvements (ACL), and many improvements to the Form API.

Getting this beta nice and stable is essential to releasing Drupal 5.0, and to do so we need your help! Read on to find out how....

Everyone

No matter who you are, start by either installing or upgrading the new version of Drupal (see INSTALL.txt or UPGRADE.txt for more details). You can use the development module to quickly generate a bunch of test data, or you can upgrade an existing Drupal 4.7 installation. As with everything still in development, we do not recommend running the beta on a live site. If you do, make sure you backup your entire site and database before.

Newbies

Are you completely (or relatively) new to Drupal? Or do you know just enough to be dangerous? Are you used to working with other content management systems, and willing to lend your perspective in improving the way Drupal works?

If so, you're a perfect candidate to help with usability testing and improving documentation! Take notes as you're going through Drupal on things you find difficult or confusing, and translate those notes into an issue which will show up in the issue tracker. Make sure to be clear as possible about what the problem was and provide suggestions on how to improve it -- this makes it easier for developers to help!

Testers

Do people often congratulate you on your ability to break things? Are you a creative individual who likes to experiment with things in unconventional ways to see what happens? Do you enjoy looking over other peoples' work and picking nits in order to make it as good as it possibly can be? If any of these apply to you, you could make a great tester!

We need testers both to try out different aspects of Drupal itself, as well as take a look at the issue queue to check bugs to see if they're valid, and also test patches to see if they work properly. Read more on setting up a testing environment and how to apply patches.

Module and theme developers

There is no better way to shake out any lingering bugs with the API and to ensure that your modules and themes will work with the new version of Drupal than to update your modules and update your themes! Make sure to file any bugs that you find!

Drupal Ninjas and Ninjas-in-training

If you're adept at Drupal hacking, or are eager to learn, a great place to start is with the bug tracker or the patch queue. Even if you don't have a full solution for a problem, often even a step in the right direction can be enough for another developer to take it home! Read up on how to create patches.


Drupal interface translators (update)

The interface strings of Drupal 5.0 are not frozen yet. A notice will be sent to the translators mailing list, when the interface is close to being ready for translation. Until that time, there is no point in starting to translate, so we are not providing translation templates.


So when does 5.0 get released?

5.0 gets released after a) there are no more critical bugs and b) we've had at least one release without adding any more to the list. When will that be? Well, it depends entirely on how many people chip in and help out! The more people help, the faster we can find and fix bugs, and the faster 5.0 gets released. The faster 5.0 gets released, the faster we can start adding new features to Drupal 6.0. So help out where you can, and let's make this the best release of Drupal yet! :)

Let's swat those bugs!

Comments

rszrama’s picture

Excellent news! Will be putting this up immediately. : )

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greggles’s picture

Well, it's on Digg already. Sheesh they're fast.

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Laurentvw’s picture

Dugg!
Thanks for the beta release, Dries. I was sooo looking forward to this :D
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chess2u.com’s picture

Many thanks !

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Muslim guy’s picture

Thanks and keep up

*I downloaded the so-called Xoops latest stable release yesterday and to my horror, there was no MODULES - you dont have the News, Forum ,etc in it

= The lesson from this - the Xoops installer is great, but the whole package is USELESS because there isnt any modules in this 900KB Xoops latest package - wasted my time

Newbies to CMS - even though Drupal 5.x is quite difficult to install, it has all the basic modules you need to BLOG, FORUM, PAGE, STORY

chess2u.com’s picture

The only module I miss is rich-text editor :(
When it will be available ?

Will be happy to get i18n too.

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Michelle’s picture

There is no RTE in core. You need to use one of the contrib modules for that.

Michelle

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chess2u.com’s picture

There are no *any* 3rd part modules for 5.0 beta for the time being :(

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rszrama’s picture

There are quite a bit actually... I've done several conversions by myself (see my post below) that I'm happy to share. And you can reference this list to see what else has already been updated or is in the works:

http://drupal.org/node/82257

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chess2u.com’s picture

Nice list, but TinyMCE and i18n are not there.
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sepeck’s picture

you can offer to help the module maintainers of TinyMCE and il9n then. That list is a voluntary status by the module maintainers compiled by Michelle so that we reduce the general 100 or so forum posts that we get each release :)

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chess2u.com’s picture

As far I remember, RTE and i18n shall be core modules for 5.0.
I could be helpful to develope some other modules, but until now I have no approval as developer :(

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Michelle’s picture

There is no RTE/WYSIWYG in core. I don't expect there ever will be but, who knows. Maybe someday something core worthy will come around.

I know there's talk about getting i18n or at least some of it in core but, AFAIK, not for 5.x. I don't really follow that as I don't need it, so I could be wrong, but pretty sure it won't be before 6.x.

You don't need "approval" to be a developer. If you want to help, submit patches to existing modules or create your own modules and apply for a cvs account.

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dww’s picture

the 5.x releases of modules just aren't being packaged yet, since i refuse to spend any more time on the old release system now that the new release system is installed on scratch.drupal.org and is days away from going live...

but, you can still grab them directly from CVS. just see http://drupal.org/node/82257 for details...

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Geotechy’s picture

Automated installation will be the primary expectation from user perspective at least when the stable V5.0 goes for public use. It will be a real issue. I support the idea of user: tetramentis, published elsewhere in this forum. Gallery2's installation was very exciting, simple, safe and secured. They probably use the codes like the one I included in my 4 step procedure outlined in this topic above. Drupal CMS V5.0 's final version should have similar one, or they can atleast include these 4 steps, and avoid downloading, unzipping, and uploading, renaming or moving the files from one directory to another directory.

Second issue will be the continuation of issue users are raising on previous versions. "ACCESS DENIED" page after you login to it using correct username and password. It is a consistent problem. It usually occures when you try to use multiple domains that are pointing to the same web contents. I could not get rid of it on both 4.7.3 and 5.0. Its a real headache.

GyaNeX
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PS: Drupal Should control over Mobile Communication Equipment's CMS. Google has already customized its email to mobile equipment. Why not Drupal?

donkomo’s picture

I try it ...
excellent theme ...good job

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Geotechy’s picture

Great job! Indeed.

Kudos to all hardworking people on both ends.

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Now, the new users may try the method outlined at http://drupal.org/node/92485#comment-168497 . They just have to copy and paste the listed php program. I have already tested them. These statements work very well. You might want to follow these steps to download the Drupal CMS V5.0 Beta 1 file for steps until before you start runing Drupal V5.0Beta 1's install.php at your website. (You may also find the same file at http://www.geotechnical.org/drupal5p0.html ) These steps are also very handy if you wish to install other versions of Drupal CMS (work also in the case of Joomla CMS), but you need to modify some directory and files names corresponding to your preferred version. Good Luck.

Systematic knowledge is a short circuit access to success.

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cerventus’s picture

Must be an inside job.

I am new to drupal, I will be testing it on my site soon enough.

Steven’s picture

Now might be a good time to remind everyone that the Packt Publishing award for Open Source CMS is nearing the end of its voting round ;). If you like Drupal as much as we do, hop over to the voting page and show your support!

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jo1ene’s picture

1) I like the new theme. Not too much. Not too little.

2) I have been looking for the uninstall modules feature. It's crazy what gets built up over time.

3) I'm not sure I like the new admin interface. Probably just because I don't want to change, though.

4) Nice simple installer. Not that I needed one. hehehe

5) The simple new content type will make life a lot easier for me.

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jo1ene’s picture

As it turns out, I've only scratched the surface. Make sure you check out the CHANGELOG folks!

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techczech’s picture

I had the same experience on points 3 and 4. Things I was really looking forward to - that would have made my life easier a year ago - don't make that much difference to me personally any more. I have installed Drupal dozens of times and I have hacked the admin menus to suit me. However, it will be a massive boost to the ease of use fpr Drupal for newcomers. The changes under the hood, though, will be much more transformative. I'm particularly impressed with the improved management of blocks and users. And the possibilities of JQuery are just mindboggling.

BioALIEN’s picture

Although there are numerous improvements to the Drupal block system, it's still lacking one of the main fundamental fixes. I've discussed this in detail here:
http://drupal.org/node/92895 - Drupal Issue Filed
http://drupal.org/node/93668 - Forum Discussion

Lets hope its fixed before final release :)

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ac’s picture

This is a fantastic release that improves the experience for everyone, from novices to veterans. Excellent work guys.

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VM’s picture

Just installed flawlessly. I applaud all dev's involved in this new version!!!!

sshvetsov’s picture

What a sweet release. Installed without a slightest problem. Beautiful new theme, love the color picker. I also like the new Administration panel. Can't wait for different modules supporting this version.

alexis’s picture

Drupal 5.0 looks great, I'm already running it in a live site (more than 1200 registered users) for a few weeks and have started porting some of my modules to work with it.

I'm glad to say that I've convinced many fellow web developers in my country to start using Drupal as their de facto CMS. I'm sure 5.0 will reach many more users.

Cheers!

Alexis Bellido
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Budrick’s picture

What about modules and themes compatibility?
Do 4.7 stuff work with 5.0?

sepeck’s picture

You will need to wait or assist with the upgrade effort on modules and themes
http://drupal.org/handbook/version-info

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kkaefer’s picture

Most modules won't work, but the changes are not really complex. Far less effort is required to update a module from 4.7 to 5 than it was from 4.6 to 4.7.

drinkypoo’s picture

Some modules seem to more or less work. Some modules kind of work - for example I added a .info file to img_assist and while it wouldn't let you actually use the img_assist tool to add image, the filter worked so your img_assist tags would still display images.

Unfortunately some of the most important modules have not been ported (like event, although I thought event was to be superseded maybe?) so it's quite a bit too early for many of us to test. I did a quick test, but found that event isn't working, and gave up for now.

What I want to know is when there will actually be modules with releases with the 5.0b1 tag. I've installed some cvs-version modules and had them be updated and working; but it would be a lot less confusing if they were actually marked as being for 5.0. The "cvs" version tag always struck me as being pretty useless because you don't know if it's 4.6-cvs, 4.7-cvs, or 5.0-cvs.

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dww’s picture

http://drupal.org/node/82257 is your friend.
updated regularly with status of 5.x porting efforts...

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Walt Esquivel’s picture

I wasn't aware of the extensive info available at the link above until you provided it. Now, I know where to go to view the latest on module compatibility, updates, and future plans. It's great being able to see a fairly current status on so many modules!

Thanks dww!!!

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Wolfflow’s picture

Is Develop.module also for Drupal 5 Beta 1 ?

I'm new to test deeply Drupal with tools/module supported by Drupal.org but I want to start to go deeper
yet. I have just few days ago published a test Site for Drupal 5 Beta 1 and I do not know if I can use the Module "develop.module" mentioned by Dries on it.

Thanks for Helping

Drupal User with some test Drupal show cases:
http://www.adaccs.at/test/ Link to a DRUPAL 5 Beta 1 Showcase Site

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moshe weitzman’s picture

yes, the head and 5.0 versions of devel.module are compatible with 5.0 drupal

Shane Birley’s picture

Installed and am currently working with it. What an incredible accomplishment. How re-invigorating for the Drupal community.

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marius.s’s picture

Very happy about the release, seems like 4.7 was just a while ago, and here we have 5.0 beta.

What I'm little bit worried about, is the upgrade (or patch) process - are there any plans to implement it aside from the UNIX patch command?

What I mean is something intuitive, f.e. a web interface, doing the upgrade.

Before the upgrade, the script should naturally check if all the current modules and themes are compatible, and inform (disable) the incompatible ones.

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Steven’s picture

You do know about update.php right? Modules can hook into it as well to provide database updates from one version to the next.

As for the actual codebase, we have always recommended to extract the new Drupal into a clean directory, and copy over only those parts that are needed. 'Patch' has never been necessary.

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styro’s picture

What I'm little bit worried about, is the upgrade (or patch) process - are there any plans to implement it aside from the UNIX patch command?

What I mean is something intuitive, f.e. a web interface, doing the upgrade.

I've done plenty of Drupal upgrades over the last few years and I've never had to use patch (and the upgrade instructions never mentioned it) - there was always a web interface for doing the upgrade.

The only possible reason I can think of for needing patch when upgrading would be if you had hacked some of the core files (not a good idea) and wanted your changes to apply to the new ones. But that is well out into "you are on your own" territory in terms of official support by an upgrade process.

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BryanSD’s picture

Agree with Anton. Following the same lines...one would also argue that if you hacked the core files with your own code....the Drupal patching approach may be the only easy solution you have left for upgrading those files you hacked. Also, it should be noted that CVS (especially the client side) can be run in a Windows environment. Information available in the Drupal Handbook.

However, as stated before...most users will not need to use patch so I wouldn't let it be anyone's "excuse" for not using Drupal.

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marius.s’s picture

Steven, Anton, Bryan, thanks for comments.

I've tried update.php a few times, but it has not worked, or offered me to update to earlier versions, so I did not use it the following times I needed to do the updates. Maybe I did something wrong, but I doubt it. It is as easy as just typing domain.com/update.php, right?

And the manual process is naturally always an option, but that takes much more time and attention.
That was why I was talking about the more easy and automated process.

Marius

styro’s picture

is for upgrading the database not the files. Generally to upgrade the files you just drop the new ones in to completely replace the old ones. The patch command is for merging in differences.

Also there are upgrades and there are upgrades.

For major version upgrades (eg 4.6->4.7, 4.7->5 etc) you will need to use update.php and completely replace all the files. This is what most people mean when they talk of upgrades (eg Steven, Bryan and my comments).

What I now suspect you might have been talking about (and what caused our confused reaction) is minor version patching (eg 4.7.1->4.7.2 etc). These don't require upgrades to the database therefore don't need update.php (I'm not sure whether or not there has ever been an exception to this). Although patch files can be provided for just the security fixes, you are better off just downloading a new copy of the Drupal tarball and expanding it over your old files (unless of course you have hacked those files yourself). That way you still get the odd non security related bugfix as well - and no need to use patch. The patch files are really only useful for those developers that are running their own custom development versions and want to import a security fix without messing up their own core development work - they aren't intended for end users to install.

There won't be patch files provided to upgrade from 4.7 to 5 as there wouldn't be any point, although if really wanted them you could get CVS to generate them.

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marius.s’s picture

Anton,

thanks for clarifications.

Marius

psicomante’s picture

I wrote up immediately a post in my blog spreading the word in italian country:)

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vph’s picture

This is excellent news !!! It looks like Drupal is growing very quickly -- alot more than other open source projects .

The MOST important question to me is Will 5.x scale a lot better than 4.x.x ??? How many users, nodes, terms can I have before the site is considered slow?

ChrisKennedy’s picture

There is a new aggressive caching option that you might want to check out.

frankzzsword’s picture

This is the best release i think, as far as now it seems wonderful, the new default skin looks sexy. also administration is now little better than b4, easy to use ;) I guess the survery you guys hold did some good atlast.

Hope to see Drupal 5 soon.

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Stefanos Karagos’s picture

Great News!
congratulations to all dev team!!

I'm ready to build the first flash tutorial...

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cybermalandro’s picture

Thanks to all the members of the Drupal community!

morphir’s picture

Awesome! Just Awesome! Thumbs up to the contributors, and it's time for us end users to testity-test as much as we can.

One question, the tar-ball has increased it's size a lot! from about 450kb to 720kb. What's the cause?

morphir.com

nicopepe’s picture

Hello

Thank you for this new release. I have red all the post, and despite many news and nices features i have seen very few comment in improving ressource managment (memory and speed).

Are these points a concern of core developpers or programmation feature is a priority ?

I don't want to be happy breaker, but in each upgrade i have seen more option for the module programmer but what about speed, which is one of the most important point for a visitor ?

I would be please to hear somebody on that point.

Cheer

Nicolas

Dries’s picture

I'll give Drupal 5.0 beta x a decent work out and provide a performance comparison with Drupal 4.7.

Reports from the field would be useful too.

robertDouglass’s picture

Lots of effort was made to improve memory and resource management (loading the modules page no longer results in the white screen of death in low-memory situations, for example), so many things are faster and more efficient. A couple things were added that take more resources or are potential bottlenecks in other areas. Overall, I put my money on leaner and faster, but we need real stress/performance testing to be done before we can say so for sure.

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techczech’s picture

This is purely anecdotal but 5.0 seems much snappier than 4.7 on my super-slow 256MB RAM PIII testing machine. I loaded all the compatible modules and some data and was very impressed.

Steven’s picture

The increase in size is mostly due to the new theme and its color changer. On top of the normal, optimized image slices, we also have to ship the source images, so they can be recomposited on demand into whatever color scheme you pick. This takes up some extra space. The color picker widget itself is also quite graphical. Because images are already compressed, they don't get smaller in the tarball and make up a large portion of it.

Luckily all these images are only used for the administrator, so the actual downloaded file size for site users is still the same.

Other than that, a quick look at the changelog shows that a bunch of other features were added as well. Before the new theme was committed recently, the tarball was still 545KB.

Drupal is still snappy as ever though, it just gained a few pounds.

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sepeck’s picture

I put together some recollections that should expand a little on the various mentions in it
http://www.blkmtn.org/Drupal-5-changelog

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BryanSD’s picture

Steven,

Excellent write-up on the changes and better yet explaining the changes!

-Bryan
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Rainy Day’s picture

Steven,

Thank you for posting such a useful write-up! T’was a better way to read the changelog. :-)

Walt Esquivel’s picture

Steven,

EXCELLENT EXPLANATIONS of the changelog as found on your blog!!!

Thanks, again, for all that you help the Drupal community with. I read your many changelog detailed comments and wrote a short comment.

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yngens’s picture

I would like to express my thankfulness to all who contributed to this release. I occasionally stepped in to Drupal half a year ago and each day I am getting to fall into deep love with it. New Drupal looks, feels, works amazingly. At least, I have not happen to any problems. Congratulations, Drupal community!

bradlis7’s picture

I also would like to give a big thanks to all those that helped. I haven't been to involved with the project lately, due to other things I've been doing these days, but I'm excited about this release! I'm almost tempted to switch some of my live sites to the beta, just because of how awesome this is. I'm gonna try to spend a little time testing this so that we can hurry the process of getting this thing out of beta.

Thanks for the great work again!

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gray97’s picture

A great system became the greatest. Worth every minute spent in waiting for it.

gray97

thSoft’s picture

What I waited for in 5.0 and miss most about Drupal is the in-core i18n capabilities. The i18n, translation etc. modules don't really solve the multilanguage problem:
- There may be content fields that are language-independent, and those should be shared among the various language version of the nodes.
- A multilanguage site might have a multilanguage community, so a user's language should be a user settings, and eg. only those comments should be displayed that are written in the current user's language.
I know this is already a DEP, but when will it be taken into account? If this was implemented, I would really switch to Drupal, but till then...

rbrooks00’s picture

You ought to make a habit of checking out the podcasts over at Lullabot. If memory serves me Dries talked a little bit about it in this one.

But the real answer is that it'll make it into core as soon as people take action to make that happen. Dries isn't like a general commanding people to work on certain things, people work on things that excite them and to the extent that they can convince others they are good enhancements they get looked at for core inclusion.

If you want to take this from the DEP stage to core in a future release then code needs to be written. You may or may not be a coder yourself (in which case you could directly contribute) but if not what you can do is help with the design and even sponsor developers to work on it. Later you can test it. That's the way it'll get into core.

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chx’s picture

As part of his thesis (and the research leading to that) Goba is doing i18n for core. You can follow and participate at http://groups.drupal.org/i18n . His name is a guarantee on a through research and high quality implementation.
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canen’s picture

Just installed a minute ago (PostgreSQL, lighttpd and PHP 5), no problems so far. Excellent work.

kje’s picture

Really Cool! Installation was smooth and easy. Garland is nice ;-)
As reported before, it feels snappier than 4.7.x

Specs: Mac mini, Core2Duo 2.0GHz, 2GB, php 5, MySQL 5.0.21

Thank you for all the great work !!!

zemote’s picture

Man am I impressed with this beta. I can't wait for it to go gold! I can tell just by using this a couple minutes that it feels faster than 4.7.4 and the usability has increased 10 fold. I will see what I can do to break it and submit any bug reports I can. I'm currently building and Intranet in 4.7.4 and may put it on hold and wait for 5 just because of usability improvements.

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Bahattee’s picture

I remember when I started using Drupal ... it was so robust, so non user friendly and so minimalistic. Now Drupal is getting more friendly to an average user and I am happy to see that it still stays so powerfull and elegant, no matter of user friendlyness.

All I can say, is ... awesome work, guys!

j0k3z’s picture

Is there a place where we can see it in action and test it out without actually installing it ourselves?

yngens’s picture

www.drupaldemo.org uses an old theme.

Look at http://www.akyl.org

akolahi’s picture

ever!

DrakeGuan’s picture

congradulations on this awefully drupal 5.0!! hope to see its stable release assp.

pamphile’s picture

Congrats Drupal

The new garland theme really shines and goes beyond the "default" look and feel...

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tanepiper’s picture

Hell of a lot nicer, glad to see you've got a nice new admin interface, and the default theme looks a lot nicer.

I'd love to see even less use of tables and more use of CSS for layout, and that seems to be the case here, I noticed a few tables are still used but more sparingly.

I'll have a good test of it in the next few days, see if I can find any bugs. If I'm happy with it, I might even start porting a new site I'm working with in 4.7 over to 5 if it seems stable enough.

Oh so glad to see you using jQuery as well, the best JS library out there IMHO (but it's just been upgraded to 1.3).

Can't wait to try rack my brains around creating modules for 5.x, never made one before but I'd like to start making my first one for 5.x only. One question I have got, what about the event module? My module idea is for a Gig managment tool for bands and I'd like to tie it in with the event module to display a calendar.

tanepiper’s picture

I've been having a play about. So far, so good - the code seems really stable for a beta release, and is nice and fast.

love the fact your using jQuery - gives me a few ideas:

1) Would be nice to include some jQuery plugins as some modules for Drupal, such as Livesearch, Thickbox (better than Lightbox!), Catfish advertising, Newsticker... the list is endless.
2) There is a nice date picker plugin for jQuery (http://kelvinluck.com/assets/jquery/datePicker/) which would be nice for date options
3) Would also be nice to have editable regions (http://www.appelsiini.net/~tuupola/javascript/jEditable/) for front-end editing of content.

These are just a few ideas, hopefully we can marry the best CMS and best JS library into something special :)

BioALIEN’s picture

I just finished opening a can of whoop ass on a theme for Drupal 5.x Beta1 and it was VERY satisfying to beat the system.

While I enjoyed testing the Beta since the day it was released and decided it was time to create a new theme. One thing that I would like to announce to any theme designer looking to skin this beta - BE PREPARED FOR HEADACHE!

Juggling 10+ CSS files is not fun. I've filed a bug report if anybody would like to answer some questions:
http://drupal.org/node/99470

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arkepp’s picture

Great work guys. You improved the look and feel of the whole application, glad you're not getting stuck just because something works ;)

Gman’s picture

Great news. I was just coming over to grab a CVS release to see what 5.0 looks like, and now I have the Beta to Test out. Thanks.

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kahy’s picture

I've just installed it and it really is impressive.

tanguillo’s picture

When will be the translation template available?

greggles’s picture

That's probably best aimed towards the translations group: http://groups.drupal.org/drupaltranslation

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Gábor Hojtsy’s picture

You mean http://groups.drupal.org/translations or http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/translations not the "translation site" group.

The actual answer is *later*. The strings to translate are not frozen, so it would be a waste of time to translate some of them (or so it seems now). It will hopefully turn out shortly, whether the docs people are planning on reviewing the help texts for 5.0 or not.

NikLP’s picture

Utterly blown away by the installer, the new admin interface (and simpler navigation thereof) and also the theme-color-doodah is pretty amazing too!

Curious that the 'subset' of CCK that was mentioned here doesn't include the ability to add custom fields in 'add new content type' I think though? I would have thought that to be jolly useful in most instances?

Pretty good looking so far anyway! Hats off! Sorry to jump the gun, but what sort of timescale are we looking at for an official release? (roughly, I know the actual answer is "depends, eh?" :)

Thanks in advance

Mephistox’s picture

I agree - template is amazing.

Love the admin interface too.

If only there were a few modules to play around with :(

greggles’s picture

There are several modules to play with - check this summary list about update status: http://drupal.org/node/82257

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eaton’s picture

There was quite a bit of debate about whether to press to integrate CCK-style fields into core for 5.0. After much deliberation and code analysis, the developers working on those patches decided that it would be safer to focus on getting basic content type creation in place. That entailed a LOT of changes to the underlying system, and a lot of work. The end result, though, is that the CCK module will be even more flexible and better integrated in 5.0, and there will be more time to iron out the details of how to best integrate custom fields into a future version of Drupal core.

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mhs’s picture

Great release. Just installed it and is much better than 4.7

One problem though, I cant see the color picker .

I have the color picker module and the GD library enabled. Any thoughts ?

mhs

mhs’s picture

ok I can see it now, had to set 'chmod +x ' on some of the files

mhs

greggles’s picture

which files?

There are several users plagued by this problem so it would be good to know.

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mhs’s picture

I ran 'chmod +x' on themes/garland/color/*

that fixed the problem of the color picker not showing up.

however the real issue I had , was my website host does not support many of the .htaccess directives

when you change the color palette on a theme, drupal generates the relevant css files and images in a temp folder in your "files" directory (the one which you tell drupal to store misc stuff) and as a security feature also adds an .htaccess file there. (which prevents indexing of that dir)

I had to remove the .htaccess file (from your_drupal_dir/files/color) every time I changed the color setting to anything other than the default blue.

So in all, chmod +x the above mentioned files, and remove .htaccess (if you have to).

I hate my webhosting company for this.

mhs

rbrooks00’s picture

It would be good to log an issue on this for formal tracking, even if the end result of that is simply a documentation addition. As it stands this will get lost as a comment and more people will ask about it.

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mhs’s picture

I added my $0.02 as a reply to an issue posted on the same topic

mhs

abaryudin’s picture

Sounds interesting - I will give it a go :-)

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drupalisme’s picture

First, I must say that this is the one of the best starting point of Drupal version. This is great version but still lack some important features:
1. Can not create database! We still need additional tools: phpMyAdmin, etc.
2. Can not install and uninstall themes: need external FTP tool!
3. The layout of field in Installation Page is bad: better use left to right, i.e:

Database Name:
MyDB_Name
Description

I suggest to use this layout:
Database Name: MyDB_Name
Description

4. To edit any contents then you must read full page of the conten then click Edit. I suggest to automatic provide a small edit icon according to user's right.

Again, thanks to make this great product! I hope 5.0 beta 2 will fix all above NEEDED features, so we can live with Drupal without any additional or external tools. Good jobs!!!

sepeck’s picture

No new features will be added to it. Only needed UI enhancements within a specific range and bug fixes will be accepted for it in the beta pahse. Please follow up with additional features for the next version of Drupal in the features in the project feature request and if posible mocks ups/explanations/patches.

This is not the thread for them though. This is the thread for the beta 1 release of 5.0.

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drupalisme’s picture

Steven, I see that in the admin-module there is an Uninstall feature, but I can not see a Module Installation feature. This is true or am I missing something in the themes configurations?

styro’s picture

Modules install themselves (ie add their own database changes etc) when you enable them. 5.0 presumably now allows those modules to clean up after themselves when uninstalled.

In 4.6 and earlier you had to manually install the database changes yourself. 4.7 introduced install scripts that modules could use to do this automatically when they were first enabled.

Module installation just means installing the module into Drupal - it doesn't mean go and fetch the module and its dependencies from the internet (yet). If you know about how Debian works, it sorta means Drupal has dpkg now but not apt-get yet (if ever).

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drupalisme’s picture

For those who never use Debian, above statement mean:
- Currently Drupal need such additional FTP tool to upload the module (like: dpkg)
- There is no feature to upload new module from Drupal itself (like: apt-get).

Right? I never use Debian, but ever try Ubuntu which works like that way.

eaton’s picture

...Is that Debian and Ubuntu are *operating systems*. Drupal is a web-based application. While it is hypothetically possible to install new software from within the Drupal UI, adding that feature to core would open up a *huge* number of security vulnerabilities and risk countless new exploits. You need an FTP client to put Drupal on your server: using it to copy a new module or theme to your site is not a troublesome requirement.

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styro’s picture

For those who never use Debian, above statement mean:
- Currently Drupal need such additional FTP tool to upload the module (like: dpkg)
- There is no feature to upload new module from Drupal itself (like: apt-get).

It works the same in Ubuntu. What I meant was:

dpkg is the installer and will install and manage a package (ie a .deb file) you already have on your machine. But you need to have already downloaded the package and its dependencies yourself. It can also uninstall packages etc.

apt-get goes and fetches all the packages and dependencies from the internet (or CD etc) and finds updates etc. But it still uses dpkg to install them. dpkg is still the installer and uninstaller underneath all that though.

Drupal has the dpkg level of functionality in its installer. Drupal doesn't have the higher level apt-get functionality you are talking about - which isn't strictly speaking installer functionality anyway.

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drinkypoo’s picture

I would like to say that it only makes sense that drupal should at some point be able to automatically fetch updates to modules and install them. Well, not automatically so much as that you shouldn't have to do it completely manually. All we'd need would be a module - so there's no reason to put it in core, even, and it could definitely be developed as contrib. Optimally the project pages for the various modules would be published; then you'd just subscribe to them and the module would check issue pages for modules which you have installed, which would tell us when a new version had come out.

sepeck’s picture

All we'd need is a module. The back-end infrastructure (servers, bandwidth, delivery mechanism). People to manage the back-end infrastructure. A trust method (signed certificates or other). Testing on *nix, Windows, IIS, Apache, php4(3,4), php5(1,2). A back out method. A big notice warning to backup database/site first.... Etc. Additional work done on project module....

In theory it certainly is possible. In reality there are a lot of steps between the two and some of the steps are more important than others. There is a lot of other work going on as well that involves people and their interests that compete for time.

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dww’s picture

this is one of the (dozens) of reasons i'm working on the new release system. see comments there.

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Wolfflow’s picture

Pleasure and Joy to install and run Drupal 5 Beta ONE.
Great Job Drupal, thanks.
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Yura Filimonov’s picture

Hello there.

I am now considering using Drupal for two sites and I wonder if I need to wait for the 5.0 version.

Will it make sense to wait a couple of weeks or it'll take longer for 5.0 to be stable?

Thanks.

bradlis7’s picture

I think it usually takes at least a couple of months, if not more, to get the final release out there. Or maybe that's just what it seems like when I'm waiting for the release ;).
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techczech’s picture

I'd say it depends on what kind of site you want. If you just want something that uses core modules and it is for personal needs, you can probably use 5.0. I installed it and tried everything I could think of and it held up nicely. It also seems a bit faster than 4.7. However, if you will rely on lots of modules, very few have been upgraded. Although, I tried a few that had been and they seem to work (but the TinyMCE module has not, for instance so you'd be stuck with BBcode which has).

Yura Filimonov’s picture

I want to build a resource site (a blog, a directory, some pages), so I plan on using CCK extensively, at least.

I can't wait two months for one site, so I guess that settles it. Though I am not a programmer, I figure I can upgrade once in a while.

Maybe I can start small at 5.0, wait the several months for additional modules, and then broaden up.

Think it is possible to have pages (with keyword URLs - URl aliasing, I believe?), a blog and articles in 5.0 now?

Thanks.

techczech’s picture

CCK and path both work in 5.0 so you should be able to get started. However, all the usual disclaimers apply - it is beta and not supported. It may run without a hitch or it may all come crashing down. I am very tempted to start using it on a small non-critical site myself. But if things go wrong I'd expect to blame myself only.

neofactor’s picture

To answer your question:

No question in my mind... USE 4.7 now!!!!!!!!!
Build your site. Modules will not be ready for 5.0 and they will take time to bug track after they are released.

We go through this every transition... people holding out for the new version instead of just getting things done with a tried and true stable version.

If I was unclear I will restate: USE 4.7 now! Upgrade to 5.0 later... updates are easy.

David McIntosh
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carlmcdade’s picture

Some where pretty excited about this so I let them break the rules about betas and put up a Demo. Those that just want to see it from a website owners view without installing can go here.

http://www.hiveminds.co.uk/node/3155

Personally I am impressed. Two things standout in my mind. First the use of JQuery finally breaks the previous trend of not using exteranal libraries. Secondly the implementation of auto-increment in the database. I am not in total agreement with the default Innodb engine being set on the tables. But it best that it happen now rather than a year later.

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magico’s picture

5.0 gets released after a) there are no more critical bugs and b) we've had at least one release without adding any more to the list.

This is the only item that I disagree. There are currently 380 issues against all versions, and I can say with some confidence that even those that are marked against 4.7 still exist in HEAD. (note: and we are only talking about "pending bugs" queue!)
Sure, they are normal (much of them are minor indeed) but that does not mean that they shouldn't be solved.

What I propose is the following: release the version 5.0 after a) there are no more critical bugs, b) there are bugs reviewed with no more than 2 weeks old and c) we've had at least one release without adding any more critical bug.

Basicly, I propose that we join forces to review thoroughly more bugs, identify possible critical bugs that were already filled in and lower the number of current issues to a human possible and good sense level!

Back to pending bugs issue stack....

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ezichko’s picture

the new theme looks very web 2.0, congratulations!!

pamphile’s picture

You can see a Drupal 5 example on Loving Ways
http://www.lovingways.com

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drinkypoo’s picture

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You are not authorized to access this page.

Chris Lozinski’s picture

Well done Drupal guys for this great update

I completed my first ever manual installation of a Drupal site today and it went like a dream.

Looking forward to the updated modules. Modules seem to be appearing thick-and-fast these days – shows the tremendous potential of this platform!

Thanks again Drupal Community

Chisel

archetwist’s picture

5.0-beta1, not 5-beta1? I thought the naming convention has been changed...

dww’s picture

to quote the first few sentances of the post you just linked to:

...there will only be 2 digits. For example, the forthcoming stable release will be version 5.0. The 5 represents the major revision of Drupal, and indicates what modules and themes will be compatible with it. The 0 is the patch level, and indicates that it will be the first release of this version of Drupal. Subsequent bug fixes and security patches will be released as 5.1, 5.2, and so on.

so, the release itself will be "5.0" (from a "DRUPAL-5-0" tag that will eventually get added). the release series is "5.x", all the other stable releases of this same API and feature set (from the "DRUPAL-5" branch, which will eventually be created)...

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kmberry’s picture

This crap sucks. Im glad your not working for redhat. From now on Im only going to run cvs even though it doesn't work because I just discovered there is no such thing as update for you people just like all the other cms progs. I'll just run cvs -dAP update and destroy my site every week for the fun of it. Thanks alot.

bomarmonk’s picture

Why not build your own CMS with your superior wit and wisdom?

BryanSD’s picture

KMBerry, tell us how you really feel! Seriously, what don't you understand with the word beta? Also, if you followed step 1 in upgrade.txt, there should be zero chance of "destroying" your site.

1. Backup your database and Drupal directory - especially your
sites-directory which contains your configuration file and
any added modules and themes.

Bryan

archetwist’s picture

If I understand it correctly, there will be no such thing like 5.1-beta1 in the future. Or maybe you want to tell me that bug fixes and security patches need a beta before they can be released as a stable "patch level" version ;>

Abilnet’s picture

Thanks guys for your excellent work, highly appreciated!

protusi@protusi.ru’s picture

thank you so much for drupal.

Ylan’s picture

Drupal 5.0 simply amazes me, both visually and technically!

ThatPerson’s picture

The new theme is nice, and blows away anything I've ever seen before. Also, everything seems more responsive and slicker.

Rolph5’s picture

Hi

When installation begin, drupal write error :

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: user_access() in /home/rsdd/public_html/modules/block/block.module on line 77

Bartek’s picture

On the localhost works fine. But on my server i've got some errors:

1.) After clean instalation:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function db_result() in /home/users/.../public_html/drupal/includes/bootstrap.inc on line 220

2.) After copy from localhost (both files and database) to the server
Fatal error: Call to undefined function user_access() in /home/users/.../public_html/drupal/modules/taxonomy_menu/taxonomy_menu.module on line 34

when I put require('modules/user/user.module') line in taxonomy_menu.module this error go out, but shows similar one. So, I think that problem is in including files, some files are missing but i don't know why :(

mWare’s picture

Please add in standard distribution Drupal 5.x from Drupal 4.x.x :

module "archive" , and non-standart module "gsitemap".

Michelle’s picture

LOL! Not a small request by any means.

Archive was deliberately removed. I don't know if there is a contrib version.

As to gsitemap, contrib modules generally don't get added to core. If you want to use it, just download the contrib. There's no need for that to be in core.

Michelle

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brakkar’s picture

I think it is a bad idea to remove modules from core. This might upset many people concerned.

Brakkar

Michelle’s picture

Every change upsets someone. If people have concerns, they should get involved and voice their opinions before the code freeze.
Michelle

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Ryanbach’s picture

The critical bugs sure are getting patched quite well... :)

blah@drupal.htdogs.ru’s picture

Sorry! I don't know if this question is posted earlier (so many comments!), but I can't find placing of language settings menu in the new system.

Gábor Hojtsy’s picture

As it always was, you need to enable locale module first. (Translations of the interface are not yet ready, see the note above in the announcement).

blah@drupal.htdogs.ru’s picture

oh, sorry and thanks!

alexkb’s picture

Wowsers.. just installed and populated with some test content.. This is stunning!

The default theme is very sleak, and neat.. and the theme colour picker is also great..

Haven't come across any errors as yet.

I'm just wondering.. where is the development for 5.0 modules is happening..? As currently there is nothing listed on the Modules page for this version.

greggles’s picture

Glad you like it - if you do find errors be sure to report them in the issue queue.

The question about modules was already asked/answered in this thread - take a look at http://drupal.org/node/82257

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srrpenna’s picture

It is good with drupal 5. I find it more organised and well formatted. I am now experimenting it with my new site liverpool blog. It works great. I am a newbie so I finding bit difficult to manage some aspects like getting categories in to block but i will keep posting all the issues and will want to be a drupal community.

Also people can join in the blog and experiment the New drupal for yourself

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rszrama’s picture

I'm using 5.0 at my personal site (http://ryan.grinhost.net) and it's going great.. if you need any help with the content at your site (your post seemed to indicate so) I can probably help. Check out my site, let me know if you want to know how anything was done. The views module has been updated for 5.0 already, and that's the way you're gonna get category content into blocks (unless I've misinterpreted you... the Views module is how I made the Post-Its and Tutorials pages, combined with Drupal's handy new feature to create content types on the fly).

Also, you ought to be consistent with your URLs... going to the page I went to http://liverpool.drpenna.com/ but the home link on the top of your site goes to http://www.liverpool.drpenna.com/. This will lead to some unwanted results w/ page indexing and login cookies and such. I'd stick with just one and even look in your .htaccess file and modify/uncomment the line to force the URLs to one or the other. Also, you should go to your Administer >> Site Configuration >> Clean URLs page and run the test for clean URLs. If you can use them, there's no reason not to turn them on. : )

Get in touch with me through my contact form or my site if you have any questions. (I'm also using Tagadelic, Google Sitemap, Google Analytics, and Smileys modules converted to 5.0 for my site.)

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Gman’s picture

Hey, Ryan.

I am also testing out Drupal 5.0 on my blog site, www.tech-wanderings.com. I have gotten so used to typing in the admin URLS that I keep getting lost with the new admin/build/.... idea. But organizationally it is quite superior to 4.7.

Great Job Everyone.

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rszrama’s picture

(Forgot I'm also using pathauto.)

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cozzi’s picture

After unzipping the v5 beta 1 files and then pointing to my url I get redirected to http://www.my-site.com/cgi-system/install.php (the directory cgi-system was not part of the install and therefore does not exist). Firefox tells me this:

The page isn't redirecting properly

Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

* This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept
cookies.

Info about my setup.

*) The host is dreamhost - which I had a 4.7 version running.
*) I've not modified any installed files - as I believe I was instructed in the install.txt file.
*) I've also tested this with IE and IE just hangs (sending lots of data back and forth) but a clear white screen is as far as it goes.

Thank you
Cozzi

cozzi’s picture

Manually entering my base_url in the settings.php seems to have gotten me past this problem. However, the auto installer was of little use here because it did present me with a meaningful error message.

mikey_p’s picture

I had the same problem installing on dreamhost when installing from a subdirectory. Pointing a new subdomain to the directory containing the newly extracted drupal beta solved the problem. I would have tried setting the base_url in settings.php, but I figured hey, this is supposed to be a new web based installer, so lets see if I can make it work like that, but it didn't until I setup the new domain.

-Mike

sepeck’s picture

Please read the section on 'Testers' in Dries post. IT explains how to report these issues effectively. Reporting them in the forum announcement thread is not an effective way to report them. Please check the issue tracker for previous reports and add additional information if they exist. If they don't then open a new issue with as much information as you can supply.

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EduardoMercovich’s picture

Hello.

I have posted another report for this issue in http://drupal.org/node/92858. If it is a DH issue only, a workaround should be documented. However, it can happen to others, since DH does not have any too strange setup.

Anyway, I couln't test the installer.

Regrads...

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EduardoMercovich’s picture

Well, except for the documented problem with the installer (that couldnt be tested) Drupal 5 Beta 1 runs absolutely wonderful in my Dreamhost account.

Drupal keeps getting better each day, thanks to all of you. :-)

Regards...

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cozzi’s picture

Most webhosts deliver a user this sort of syntax

mysql -u username -ppassword -h hostname databasename

I would suggest that this form reflect this as a reference somewhere on the screen. Also, the Advanced tab should be expanded, as in my case Local Host did not work and the error message was not really that good. To be honest, at first I was puzzled that the initial screen only asked me for 3 pieces of information and the fact the my webhost provided me with 4 pieces had me questioning what I should enter. However, I forged on only to get a connection error. For kicks I tried clicking on Advanced tab and saw LocalHost and remember the warning that my webhost gave me about not being able to use LocalHost.

lionheart8’s picture

The installation after unzipping & uploading the files to my free host account (/fdrupal5) run smoothly after I fiiled in the data required. I have not encountered any problem so far, except it's not recognizing a theme I uploaded. I reasoned that it's for 4.7 & may be not optimized to run under 5.0 ... though I mmay be wrong.
I've generally been impressed by the many changes and looking forward to the final version. ;)

Niall Mansfield’s picture

We've started using 5.0 beta and have come across various problems,
Im happy to post issues are required but I don't know if what I am seeing are new to 5.0 or not, and I don't want to clutter the list with what may be duplicates.

I can't see a way to search for 5.0-specific issues only: is it possible? (Such a list would form a useful reference for newbies, and for people converting from 4.x.)

Niall Mansfield

greggles’s picture

The advanced search page should get you to the right information.

I also use Google and search for something like "site:drupal.org issue drupal terms describing problem" and see if that finds the issue.

If you make even a small attempt to search before posting that's good enough - other people know the issue queue pretty well and can mark things as dups if you missed one.

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Niall Mansfield’s picture

> The advanced search page should get you to the right information.

No -- it doesn't let you specify 5.0 only. E.g. if you've got a problem with "Input formats" (I did -- the menu heading was showing as plain text instead of a hyperlink, and wasn't exapandable) you have to view issues on all versions of Drupal.

A 5.0-specific thread or specifier would be great, especially at new-release times like this.

greggles’s picture

Over on the left of the form under "versions" there is a 5.0-beta-1 option. If that isn't working then we need to fix it, but it worked in some short tests that I did.

You probably should choose 5.0-beta-1 and CVS because people file against both to mean the same thing.

Greg

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techczech’s picture

I agree. Google is a good way to go about it. I created a custom Drupal search on http://www.glottalstart.com/goopal to make it easier. However, it has one big downside. It only searches items it has indexed so anything less than a week or so old won't be found.

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Aran Deltac’s picture

Wow, that color picker sure makes the web a LOT better! http://test.silentforest.net/ :)

PS: Thanks for the beta, I'll kick it some.

ChrisKennedy’s picture

Oh my lou :P

browserspot’s picture

Have been using all sorts of CMSes...including Java based Weblogic and Websphere portals......but have not seen anything so simple, elegant and versatile like Drupal. With so many modules coming up so soften....this is possibly the best open source CMS - PHP based portal system every built!

Great job guys!!! Just launced....


http://www.livbit.com

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pamphile’s picture

I installed it on http://www.lovingways.com. But now for some crazy reason, everyone including admin and anonymous users are locked out with a Access Denied response.

pamphile’s picture

I changed the admin password within phpmyadmin but admin is still locked out.

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carlmcdade’s picture

I noticed this right off when I ran 5.0 locally using the latest Wampserver. Luckily fago had already come up with a solution. I have been running the demo without a problem since putting in this fix.

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ebw’s picture

h/t to fago!
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ladycentaur’s picture

I learned this today when I decided to try to install CiviCRM 1.5 onto my Drupal 5.0 test install.

I installed it the same way I successfully installed CiviCRM 1.5 onto Drupal 4.7 using FTP, File Manager and PHPMyAdmin.

I copied the civicrm.settings.php file I configured into drupal/sites/deafult
I found the civicrm.css file and moved it from the css folder into the main civicrm folder. I moved the civicrm.module file from civicrm/drupal folder into the main civicrm folder and I created a file named civicrm.info and copy and paste the code from one of the other .info module files and changed the words to say it was civicrm 1.5.

Basically, to get CiviCRM to work in Drupal 5.0 you need to do 3 things differently than you do with 4.7:

1) move the civicrm.css file into the main civicrm directory
2) move the civicrm.module file into the main civicrm directory
3) create the civicrm.info file and put it into the main civicrm directory

Easy as pie...

CiviCRM looks a little funky in the Garland Theme, but it's not bad in Minelli and works just fine in the other themes so far as I can tell.

See it in action here:

www.ofeliascommunity.org/home

thall’s picture

Will Drupal 4.7 themes be backward compatible with Drupal 5? If not, what changes will be necessary?

Thanks,

~Terence

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http://drupal.org/node/64292

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ChrisKennedy’s picture

There are some changes required for 4.7 themes to be compatible with 5.0, see Converting 4.7.x themes to 5.x

thall’s picture

Thanks

netceo’s picture

Hi, i decided i will try out the new Drupal release on my personal blog, www.sham-inc.com I set it up a few days ago, and today i noticed i am not able to login to my site, and all the variables(Logo, slogan, footer, mission) are set to "This website will be closed soon"

Anonymous users are able to access each and everything.. i can easily just delete it all and set it up afresh, but if somebody can help me understand the whole thing here, it will be nice. The site was set to be in offline mode.

I am using 4.7.4 for a lot of my sites, and have never had such experience.

regards,

Sham

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Doing it.. just panicked into doing it..

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moradizx’s picture

Thanks for beta 2
hijri (shamsi or persian) and moon (ghamary or arabic) date format please !!!

Hadi Farnoud’s picture

the most important thing in Drupal 5 is Date and RTL full support.please take a look

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larry12’s picture

Hi all,

I'm a newbie. I've been playing with Drupal version 5 on my localhost, and it's awesome. Now that things are a bit stable on localhost, I'll like to set things up on a web host.

How do I do this? In Drupal version 4, there is a sql script you can run to set up your tables for you. This is not the case in drupal v5.

Could you advice what scripts to run to set up my website on a web host with Drupal v5?

Looking forward to your help.

Laurence

AstaC’s picture

I have installed 5.0 on a new subdomain I created. Had a bit of problem during installation but solved them (erasing htaccess etc).

Now however my Clean URL test tell me that my server is not properly configured. It must however be that since I run two other Drupalsites on this server. Both with Clean URL's enabled. Anyone have a solution for this problem?

Another problem is that I can not change colour on the theme. It will simply give me no theme at all. Anyone else with this problem or should I report it as an issue?

greggles’s picture

When you say you erased the .htaccess you mean that you removed it or emptied the contents?

Clean URLs relies on the htaccess, so that is not surprising for it to be broken after emptying the .htaccess file.

The issue with not being able to change the color is well known. It's definitely worthwhile searching before entering issues.

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AstaC’s picture

I did both. I removed it first to try to see if it worked. I got "server not found" but i worked after removing .htaccess. When clean url's didn't work I searched here and created a modified .htaccess, but I still don't get clean url's to work.

And I did a search for colours but propably didn't use the right words in my search.