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By rachel_norfolk on
As part of our ongoing activities to ensure a safe and welcoming environment for collaboration in Open Source, we have updated the drupal.org Terms of Service, at drupal.org/terms
This change has clarified which behaviors will be regarded as “harassment” and are, therefore, not acceptable whilst using the Drupal online services. The language is now in line with that already employed in the DrupalCon Code of Conduct.
The updated text, from Section C - Activities, now reads as:
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Harassment will not be tolerated in any form, including but not limited to: harassment based on gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, age or religion. Any report of harassment will be addressed immediately. Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
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Comments or imagery that reinforce social structures of domination related to gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, age, or religion.
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Unwelcome comments regarding a person’s lifestyle choices and practices, including those related to food, health, parenting, drugs, and employment.
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Abusive, offensive, or degrading language or imagery
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Language or imagery that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence, emotional, or physical harm against an individual or a group of people
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Intimidation, stalking, or following
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Sexual imagery. At a minimum, no images containing nudity or expressions of sexual relationships that might be deemed inappropriate for a business environment should be uploaded or linked to
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Unwelcome sexual attention or advances
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Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior
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Thank you
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thank you
I am glad that you appreciate efforts to ensure that people using this website can see what behaviours are and are not acceptable. For your information, those people who are actively contributing to our project, via code (see drupalcores.com for a list of credited individuals including myself at #204), via strategic initiatives like documentation (see https://www.drupal.org/about/strategic-initiatives/documentation), via support to others via mentoring, through to improving marketing materials (see https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/moving-promote-drupal-initiative-forward), have all been telling us that this stuff does matter - a lot. They are making our product - so we listen to them. Carefully.
Finally, there are over 450 different cheeses made in Switzerland. That Drupal can be compared to something exhibiting such a rich variety fills me with pride. Indeed, Drupal has proven to have many of the same qualities; becoming a key component not just of standard websites but deep in the heart of systems to control media on aircraft and monitor glocuse levels in insulin-dependent diabetic patients. Yes, I’m happy with the Swiss Cheese analogy.
Oh - and for the record, my favourite is Raclette... 🧀🥔
Ms. Norfolk, I appreciate
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I completely agree with the
I completely agree with the opinion of @rbox. Specially the last paragraph. Thank you @rbox for taking the time for putting your opinion to words.
A lot of people are sick of
A lot of people are sick of the identity politics but are afraid to speak out in fear of being ostracized by the very people promoting inclusivity and diversity.
I will no longer stand by and
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
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Damien McKenna | Mediacurrent
Thank you @daffie We have to
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ROTFL
In your worldview, what should the community do when a leading member of the community assaults people for years? Applaud the abuser? Have a parade for him?
Why can't there be consequences for bad behavior?
If you don't think that anybody should prevent people from being abusive assholes to others, if you don't think people should have consequences for bad behavior, maybe this isn't the community for you?
If you feel discussions of "toxic masculinity" offends you, maybe you need to do some reading and soul searching about why you feel offended by someone discussing the toxic aspects of masculinity.
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Damien McKenna | Mediacurrent
The consequences for "bad
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Read a book. Or two.
Your privilege is showing, rbox.
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Damien McKenna | Mediacurrent
What an idiotic thing to say,
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Further, your
Further, your characterization of me as “privileged” is a clear violation of the second and third item under the revised section C above, especially since you clearly made this judgement after taking note of my race and gender. I take great offense to having insulting and abusive language used against me due to my race and gender, as well as having my background and lifestyle attacked when I am here trying to discuss Drupal policy.
Or, do the rules only apply to those who disagree with your idea of social justice?
The consequences for "bad
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On meritocracy
Anyone who lauds meritocracy has a very privileged place in life and really hasn't read up on it:
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Damien McKenna | Mediacurrent
The belief that quality of
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I strongly disagree that
I strongly disagree that getting "kicked in the gut" is an effective way to improve contributions, or attract and retain the best contributors. I spent hours doing deep research on a topic in order to provide a detailed opinion on an issue, and included code samples and references to my sources. The response I received was "RTFM", with a link to an outdated wiki page that only contained very basic information. This sort of "blunt and almost hostile" response does nothing to promote "merit based productivity and progress", instead being more likely to cause smart and capable people to leave rather than slog through to effect change.
One of the founding mythologies of open source, the cathedral and the bazaar, even asserts that progress is best made by more people making small contributions. I would prefer to see if developing a welcoming and supportive environment for new contributors to develop without fear can produce a large volume of high quality code.
I never suggested that
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rbox, when I click on your
rbox, when I click on your name to check your D.org profile, it lists 3 (three) commits in total. Maybe it's a caching issue and you have some couple other hundreds being processed right at this moment, that makes you so confident to criticize something that you haven't tried (yet) to make better?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy means you first display your high skills and good willing, then publish any form of the opinion. In your case I see it happening in opposite order. For your convenience: https://www.drupal.org/contributor-tasks
I support @rbox with his
I support @rbox with his arguments on this topic. I have at this moment 89 Drupal core commit credits. See http://drupalcores.com/.
Hopefully this is enough display of my "high skills and good willing" for his argumentation.
If you would read my comments
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I totaly agree with you rbox
PLease let's focus our time and efforts on code, within the scope of the Drupal environment. Let's move forward productively, in particular, to achieve a secure Drupal core code, 7 and 8, absolutely basic to Drupal's present and future usefulness.
Political affiliation
You mention religion but why an omission around political affiliation? I have been made to feel very unwelcome at Drupal events in the past where people have openly mocked and stigmatised people with a certain point of view politically for which many people share but would not feel comfortable expressing.
That particular list comes
That particular list comes from the Geek Feminism Wiki example Code of Conduct. It is used in a huge number of Codes of Conduct and Terms of Service now.
I’m not against adding something like Political Affiliation. However, it may be argued that the following term, “Unwelcome comments regarding a person’s lifestyle choices and practices” provides cover for comments about political affiliation. I think I would interpret it that way.
Just to be clear, though, I find stigmatising members of our community because of their political affiliations inappropriate.
That's great!
Thanks for adding the attribution.
Political affiliation
Were political affiliation be considered verboten, how would one then balance the needs of the other groups if one person's political affiliation is actively working against the other groups? For example, the Republican party in the US is actively implementing policies against LGBTQ+ people, so these people would not feel safe in a group setting where others were discussing their preference for the Republican party.
I recommend people read up on the paradox of tolerance.
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Damien McKenna | Mediacurrent
I see.
I see.
I take with Rules of Drupal
Could you please clarify
Could you please clarify what is meant by the following:
Thank you.
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Damien McKenna | Mediacurrent
Thank you for these changes
I very much appreciate seeing the added level of specificity for our terms of service.
If there are people that have engaged in behaviors that would fall outside of these guidelines, I think we all hope that they will give this some thought and make some choices to make a change and work towards treating others better.
If somebody is unable to or unwilling to follow these guidelines, then maybe it is time to find another community, and that is okay too. Although take note, plenty of other software communities are working on improving their standards for behavior as well.
There will always be people that claim that we need to tolerate abusive behavior in order to recruit talent, and we do not in fact need to do so. In my experience, "geniuses" that act abusively also often take credit for other people's work, and when communities say goodbye to these celebrities, the community in fact improves.
I have seen so many people driven away from Drupal based on terrible behavior that has gone unchecked for too long. That is changing now, and I am really glad to see that.
If some of the people in favor of terrible behavior leave, then we will have an opportunity to mentor new people from underrepresented groups to fill those gaps, and really everybody wins.
Once again, thank you for taking this action to improve our community.
Thank you!
I greatly appreciate the revised Terms of Service; thank you for your work to support the Drupal community.
Awesome!
Thanks Drupal for the commitment to improving this community.
Great!
If I am not mistaken the most of the terms reviewed existed in the pass. Thank you for the update. May drupal community be the best.
Possible to lock thread?
We don't need to have a debate about this, the policy has been announced. If somebody wants to file an issue regarding this, they can. An argument about this below the post does not seem helpful. If it's possible to lock the thread and just do that by default with future announcements, that could be helpful. If there's an area where issues can be filed, a link to that could be handy.
Thank You
I greatly appreciate the revised Terms of Service; thank you for your work to support the Drupal community.
Great
Great to know
Great
God Bless Drupal and all the great contributors